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I’m a Giants fan, betting against Tom Brady made us rich
We both know you didn’t bet on the Giants in those Super Bowls, either. In fact, you probably bet on the PATS and did the old “hey, if the Giants win I’m happy to lose this bet!” routine.
 

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For a good chunk of Brees career the defense in New Orleans was not very good. And last season's failure was all on GB's coach.
Nothing to do with Rodgers having approximately 50 plays in the red zone and not being able to score? I’m used to the Rodgers apologists on here, but they always amuse me. His choke level was a 10 out of 10 in that game.
 

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Nothing to do with Rodgers having approximately 50 plays in the red zone and not being able to score? I’m used to the Rodgers apologists on here, but they always amuse me. His choke level was a 10 out of 10 in that game.
The HC choked in the clutch.
 

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We both know you didn’t bet on the Giants in those Super Bowls, either. In fact, you probably bet on the PATS and did the old “hey, if the Giants win I’m happy to lose this bet!” routine.

Lol

not too far off

prob the first one

the 2nd one I totally expected to win, think the Giants were favored
 

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Can't really go wrong with....

Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Wilson, Mahomes, Montana, Peyton.
 

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Can't really go wrong with....

Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Wilson, Mahomes, Montana, Peyton.
Rank them in order of “clutchness”. Who do you trust to run the 2 minute drill with the game on the line?
 

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I give Brees the edge of chokemania

I think a close study would show he failed with better rosters more often, and lost the far bigger upsets

like to Kirk Cousins at home with the 1 seed

I honestly thought the Saints would have won more Super Bowls after the victory against he Colts. Those back to back divisional losses and 3 year drought did them in.
 

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Actually, Brees is the best thing that ever happened to that franchise. And if they didn’t see the writing on the wall that he was winding down, that is on ownership/management.

Will be interesting to see how they move on from Brees.
 

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Think that team is a sinking ship
Aging defense that lost some key pieces in FA

Kamara and not much else weapon wise on offense

that team bores me
Michael Thomas is no slouch, I think they still have a solid team and can make some noise. Not sure if it was more Payton or Brees not being clutch in playoffs. They didn't drop off when Brees was out of games last 2 seasons, so that showed me rest of team was really good. Jordan and Lattimore are still playmakers on D. I see them going 11-6
 

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Michael Thomas is no slouch, I think they still have a solid team and can make some noise. Not sure if it was more Payton or Brees not being clutch in playoffs. They didn't drop off when Brees was out of games last 2 seasons, so that showed me rest of team was really good. Jordan and Lattimore are still playmakers on D. I see them going 11-6

Thomas is a mystery to me, that guy has seemingly fallen off a cliff for one reason or another

Lattimore is great, that Hendrickson guy was a really big loss on that defensive front

with major QB questions, strike me as a .500 type team in need of some important pieces
 

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Thomas is a mystery to me, that guy has seemingly fallen off a cliff for one reason or another

Lattimore is great, that Hendrickson guy was a really big loss on that defensive front

with major QB questions, strike me as a .500 type team in need of some important pieces
Maybe Winston matured sitting behind Brees for a year, maybe knocked some cockiness and bravado out of him. I'd be really miffed if they missed the playoffs, but I have been wrong before, think it was in 79. I bet a guy that Police was a Hispanic band after hearing Roxeanne. Sounded like guys from the Orphans singing it
 

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Maybe Winston matured sitting behind Brees for a year, maybe knocked some cockiness and bravado out of him. I'd be really miffed if they missed the playoffs, but I have been wrong before, think it was in 79. I bet a guy that Police was a Hispanic band after hearing Roxeanne. Sounded like guys from the Orphans singing it

Saw the Police at Giants stadium on their reunion tour in 2006? Maybe

was shocked at how awesome Sting sounded
 

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Michael Thomas is no slouch, I think they still have a solid team and can make some noise. Not sure if it was more Payton or Brees not being clutch in playoffs. They didn't drop off when Brees was out of games last 2 seasons, so that showed me rest of team was really good. Jordan and Lattimore are still playmakers on D. I see them going 11-6
I think you might be forgetting the rule that there are no other good teams allowed in a division with Tom Brady.
 

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Saw the Police at Giants stadium on their reunion tour in 2006? Maybe

was shocked at how awesome Sting sounded
He’s hardly aged at all. It helps that he was never a screamer. He could probably perform those songs effectively until he in his 70’s if he wanted to.
 
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