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The Browns should take Chubb and Barkley

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really....I've watched every game he' played and it seems to me is goes through his progressions like all QB's....grated he'll throw the fade on the goal line to a certain receiver, but so does all QB's. I think you haven't a clue with this statement, but hell.....haters will hate regardless

Sorry not going to argue with a Cowboys fan about this you've got blinders on and aren't going to listen to anything anyone says anyways.
 

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The Browns should take Baker Mayfield and Barkley if he's available. Chubb, if not.
 

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The Browns should take Baker Mayfield and Barkley if he's available. Chubb, if not.

Trade down from 4 there are plenty of QB needy teams this year and they need another OT almost as bad as they need a future franchise QB.
 

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Trade down from 4 there are plenty of QB needy teams this year and they need another OT almost as bad as they need a future franchise QB.


Not opposed to that.
 

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Sorry not going to argue with a Cowboys fan about this you've got blinders on and aren't going to listen to anything anyone says anyways.
Cause you're wrong....hasn't a thing to do with blinders
fact remains, Dak following his processions and throws to the open man. Frankly, it's stupid as shit to say the coaches tell him where to throw the ball...well. unless it's pop warner
 

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This draft is becoming more and more reminiscent of 2011. Loaded with talent at the top with guys like Miller, Green, Petersen, Jones, Smith, Watt, Quinn yet somehow guys like Locker, Gabbert, Ponder all went top 12. Reaching for a QB is always awful

That's the NFL. Teams have to reach for QBs and hope they hit to have a shot at the playoffs and more. The top QBs in the league won't sniff FA until their time is basically up so reaching for a QB in the draft is the way to go.
 

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That's the NFL. Teams have to reach for QBs and hope they hit to have a shot at the playoffs and more. The top QBs in the league won't sniff FA until their time is basically up so reaching for a QB in the draft is the way to go.

Maybe if Cousins is successful more QBs will have the guts to do what Cousins did to escape a shitty owner.
 

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That's the NFL. Teams have to reach for QBs and hope they hit to have a shot at the playoffs and more. The top QBs in the league won't sniff FA until their time is basically up so reaching for a QB in the draft is the way to go.
I get the notion and in some drafts it's worth it. This draft is loaded though ( imo ). I think there's 10-12 legit perennial pro Bowl caliber players in this draft. Maybe more
 

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Maybe if Cousins is successful more QBs will have the guts to do what Cousins did to escape a shitty owner.

That's a good possibility but usually good QBs get locked up. What the Skins did is, well, idiotic.
 

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I get the notion and in some drafts it's worth it. This draft is loaded though ( imo ). I think there's 10-12 legit perennial pro Bowl caliber players in this draft. Maybe more

I believe too there's a ton of pro bowl type talent in the draft, but at some point you have to draft a potential QB of the future to be able to move to the next level unless you strike gold like the Pats, Seahawks and even GB with AR sliding.
 

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I believe too there's a ton of pro bowl type talent in the draft, but at some point you have to draft a potential QB of the future to be able to move to the next level unless you strike gold like the Pats, Seahawks and even GB with AR sliding.
I'm really interested in what Cleveland dies with their 3 2nd rounders. It entirely possible Allen or Jackson drop into the mid teens. They could really probably get Barkley and Chubb and still package those 3 2nd rounders to get a QB at 13 or 14. I think only 1 of them is left at that point ( likely Jackson) but it wouldn't be crazy to see that. Of course I'd probably just take Rudolph at 33 and save the 2 other picks but they've got a lot if different option with how loaded they are pick wise
 

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I'm really interested in what Cleveland dies with their 3 2nd rounders. It entirely possible Allen or Jackson drop into the mid teens. They could really probably get Barkley and Chubb and still package those 3 2nd rounders to get a QB at 13 or 14. I think only 1 of them is left at that point ( likely Jackson) but it wouldn't be crazy to see that. Of course I'd probably just take Rudolph at 33 and save the 2 other picks but they've got a lot if different option with how loaded they are pick wise

Welp, Seattle is probably 99% going to trade down or out of the first so could be a match there for the Hawks to regain a second and another pick.
 

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Welp, Seattle is probably 99% going to trade down or out of the first so could be a match there for the Hawks to regain a second and another pick.
There's talk Atlanta may want to trade up with you guys again if the right guy is still there. If course no one seems to know who the right guy is lol
 

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There's talk Atlanta may want to trade up with you guys again if the right guy is still there. If course no one seems to know who the right guy is lol

:lol:

Neither do I which is why my safe bet is Seattle trading back twice into the second or just dropping out once into the second round.
 

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People were pretty optimistic about the Browns last offseason too I remember some people saying they were going to have a top 5 O-line and people loved all the weapons. Tyrods best season doesn't come close the season Anderson had that year and he's in a new offense with a really shitty HC. They should play Tyrod until they're eliminated from the playoffs(probably week 11 or 12) then play whatever QB they draft unless its Josh Allen who needs to sit and learn for at least 2 seasons.
I think people thought they could win a few games last year, but I don't think anyone thought they were going to vault ahead that much. The OL was borderline top 5 until Thomas got hurt.

Anderson's 2007 season: 56.5 completion %, 3,787 yards, 7.19 YPA, 29 TD, 19 INT, 82.5 RAT
Tyrod's best season (2015): 63.7 completion %, 3,035 yards, 7.99 YPA, 20 TD, 6 INT, 99.4 RAT

Anderson was AWFUL that year. He was a TO machine and only had the yards/TDs that he had because he threw the ball 527 times. Taylor's best year easily stacks up and is better.

The transformation in Cleveland from 2016 to 2017 is nowhere near what it is from 2017 to 2018. We were relying on either Cody Kessler, Brock Osweiller, or a 2nd round rookie who was extremely raw to start at QB. The defense, at least on paper, wasn't nearly as good as this year's is. The offensive weapons to start last season were nothing compared to what they are this year, especially with Gordon fully back.
 
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