POLL Star Wars: final rankings (worst)

[ElTexan]

Star Wars: final rankings (worst)

Pick 5

 

[ElTexan]

1 Ep5 The Empire Strikes Back
2 Ep4 A New Hope
3 Rogue One
4 Ep6 Return of the Jedi
5 Ep7 The Force Awakens
6 Solo
7 Ep3 Revenge of the Sith
8 Ep1 The Phantom Menace
9 Ep2 Attack of the Clones
10 Ep8 The Last Jedi
11 Ep9 Rise of Skywalker

It was a virtual tie between 5&6 and 10&11.

 

[Gatorchip]

I haven't seen episode 9 yet, but you have it the worst of them all? Clones was such a stinker... hard to believe it was worse.

 

[ElTexan]

I haven't seen episode 9 yet, but you have it the worst of them all? Clones was such a stinker... hard to believe it was worse.

Why did you vote if you haven’t seen them all?

 

[Gatorchip]

Why did you vote if you haven’t seen them all?

Your poll was created in a manner that allows us to change our selections later. I only voted for 3, and I can add another vote if/when i see it.

Why is your list backwards?

 

[calsnowskier]

There were really only 2 absolute stinkers (I, II). VIII had its problems (which puts it as the 3rd worst), but it wasn’t as bad as the net-bitches bitch. Solo was a decent movie, if you just ignore the fact it is Star Wars and watch it as a western instead.

my rankings (best to worst)..

IV
V
III
Rogue One
VI
IX (temp ranking)
Solo
VII
VIII
II
I

 

[ElTexan]

There were really only 2 absolute stinkers (I, II). VIII had its problems (which puts it as the 3rd worst), but it wasn’t as bad as the net-bitches bitch. Solo was a decent movie, if you just ignore the fact it is Star Wars and watch it as a western instead.

my rankings (best to worst)..

IV
V
III
Rogue One
VI
IX (temp ranking)
Solo
VII
VIII
II
I

POLL - Star Wars: final rankings (best)

 

[ElTexan]

Just watched TROS again. I’m still going to keep it at the bottom of the list. It’s such a mess for two thirds. Ideas and themes and powers just happen silly nilly.
Too bad, because there are a couple of scenes that are nice moments.

I need to watch Ep 1 and Ep 2 again to remember how crappy they were.

 

[wazzu31]

1 Ep5 The Empire Strikes Back
2 Ep4 A New Hope
3 Rogue One
4 Ep6 Return of the Jedi
5 Ep7 The Force Awakens
6 Solo
7 Ep3 Revenge of the Sith
8 Ep1 The Phantom Menace
9 Ep2 Attack of the Clones
10 Ep8 The Last Jedi
11 Ep9 Rise of Skywalker

It was a virtual tie between 5&6 and 10&11.

No way ROS was last. Sure it wasn’t above a 5, but at least it was a Star Wars movie and semi followed the Star Wars arc. Last Jedi was a negative 2 and was a B movie for the SciFy channel. Sharknado insert number was better than Last Jedi.

 

[ElTexan]

No way ROS was last. Sure it wasn’t above a 5, but at least it was a Star Wars movie and semi followed the Star Wars arc. Last Jedi was a negative 2 and was a B movie for the SciFy channel. Sharknado insert number was better than Last Jedi.

TLJ was a real bad story.
TROS wasn’t even a story; just a bunch of ‘starwarzy’ stuff thrown on the screen

 

[wazzu31]

TLJ was a real bad story.
TROS wasn’t even a story; just a bunch of ‘starwsrzy’ stuff thrown on the screen

Fair, but a bunch of Star Wars shit thrown at a wall and see what sticks beats the Last Jedi which disregarded the other 7 Star Wars movies entirely. ROS was at a disadvantage because Last Jedi destroyed Force Awakens and didn’t move the trilogy plot in any way. You can’t make up for the 2nd of a trilogy and close it without it being a clusterfuck. It’s essentially if they tried making Rocky 4 without Rocky 2 or 3. Rocky 4 would be a terrible movie if you try to pack the Drago fight in while trying to figure out how to put the story of 2 and 3 at the same time.

 

[ElTexan]

Fair, but a bunch of Star Wars shit thrown at a wall and see what sticks beats the Last Jedi which disregarded the other 7 Star Wars movies entirely. ROS was at a disadvantage because Last Jedi destroyed Force Awakens and didn’t move the trilogy plot in any way. You can’t make up for the 2nd of a trilogy and close it without it being a clusterfuck. It’s essentially if they tried making Rocky 4 without Rocky 2 or 3. Rocky 4 would be a terrible movie if you try to pack the Drago fight in while trying to figure out how to put the story of 2 and 3 at the same time.

I give credence to your first argument, but the second I cannot abide. It is impossible to make a good movie after the clusterfuck, but that’s not the situation at hand. TROS is a horrid, lifeless, tryhard mess. And that didn’t need to happen

 

[steelerssb]

It's so hard for me to do numerical rankings because the difference between them is either so slim or wide so I'll just do tiers.

Tier 1: VI, V, Rogue One, IV, III
Tier 2: Solo, VII, IX, I
Tier 4: VIII, II

Six will always be tops for me because that was the one that got me hooked on Star Wars at a very young age so it's always been my favorite. II is a shame for me because I actually like a lot of elements of it but my god those Anakin and Padme scenes just completely drag it down because of how bad and cringey they are.

 

[steelerssb]

Fair, but a bunch of Star Wars shit thrown at a wall and see what sticks beats the Last Jedi which disregarded the other 7 Star Wars movies entirely. ROS was at a disadvantage because Last Jedi destroyed Force Awakens and didn’t move the trilogy plot in any way. You can’t make up for the 2nd of a trilogy and close it without it being a clusterfuck. It’s essentially if they tried making Rocky 4 without Rocky 2 or 3. Rocky 4 would be a terrible movie if you try to pack the Drago fight in while trying to figure out how to put the story of 2 and 3 at the same time.

That's how I feel about IX. It should have been done over VIII and IX because, while I appreciate more or less what it was going for, there's just way too much shit jammed in there that could've been more fleshed out over two movies.

 

[wazzu31]

I give credence to your first argument, but the second I cannot abide. It is impossible to make a good movie after the clusterfuck, but that’s not the situation at hand. TROS is a horrid, lifeless, tryhard mess. And that didn’t need to happen

Well they had to make the finale to the Trilogy. It was obviously worse that ROTS or ROTJ but I don’t think whoever you think the greatest writer and director is could’ve made a 6/10 movie. If they could’ve somehow just made a Rogue One type movie that goes in between 8 and 9 it would’ve been possible but so much had to be done because they ruined the entire story arc because of Last Jedi. Last Jedi I don’t think was necessarily terrible but they didn’t have a story to go on because Last Jedi. When George made the original trilogy the main part of his story was Empire and kind of made Return of the Jedi up as he went. Kind of the opposite of this trilogy where the 9th was the main story after the Force Awakens but IMO the Last Jedi made it impossible to have a good movie because they killed off 3/4ths of the story in the Last Jedi. The Last Jedi will forever be taught in film school on what not to do.

 

[steelerssb]

There's definitely a difference for me in looking at these films as just films and as Star Wars films. VIII was a pretty good film if you just view it independently, it just didn't do it for me as a Star Wars film whereas IX had pretty much the opposite effect.

 

[wazzu31]

That's how I feel about IX. It should have been done over VIII and IX because, while I appreciate more or less what it was going for, there's just way too much shit jammed in there that could've been more better fleshed out over two movies.

Ya, but there isn’t anything they could really do to disregard the or make up for the Last Jedi. They could’ve postponed it until like 2025 while they made another Star Wars film like Rogue One and did a Mandalorian type series on Disney Plus. I mean they could’ve done what Harry Potter and Twilight did with splitting the last episode into two films but that isn’t Star Wars. Regardless of the politics Last Jedi just killed the story that flowed up until Last Jedi. You can’t kill the bad guys you just created, can’t kill off beloved characters for no reason, can’t have characters you haven’t even introduced becoming heroes, you can’t have Rey overcome everything in the Last Jedi and have a legit story to have her do it again. Anakin and Luke fail in their 2nd movies nor do they either kill off their mentor or in Luke’s case introduce a new one. You don’t randomly bring a bad guy back. It’s like had Luke killed Darth Vader and the Emperor in Empire or if Anakin turned fully bad in Attack of the Clones. It just doesn’t leave a reasonable story for the final movie of the trilogy.

Godfather III wasn’t a good movie but at least it made sense, Skywalker didn’t because Act II of any trilogy is suppose to be the best not where the good guy overcomes all of the obstacles then you have to create and cram new obstacles into one movie. I hate Last Jedi but it would’ve at least made sense had it been the final movie of the trilogy regardless of the backlash.

 

[steelerssb]

Ya, but there isn’t anything they could really do to disregard the or make up for the Last Jedi. They could’ve postponed it until like 2025 while they made another Star Wars film like Rogue One and did a Mandalorian type series on Disney Plus. I mean they could’ve done what Harry Potter and Twilight did with splitting the last episode into two films but that isn’t Star Wars. Regardless of the politics Last Jedi just killed the story that flowed up until Last Jedi. You can’t kill the bad guys you just created, can’t kill off beloved characters for no reason, can’t have characters you haven’t even introduced becoming heroes, you can’t have Rey overcome everything in the Last Jedi and have a legit story to have her do it again. Anakin and Luke fail in their 2nd movies nor do they either kill off their mentor or in Luke’s case introduce a new one. You don’t randomly bring a bad guy back. It’s like had Luke killed Darth Vader and the Emperor in Empire or if Anakin turned fully bad in Attack of the Clones. It just doesn’t leave a reasonable story for the final movie of the trilogy.

Godfather III wasn’t a good movie but at least it made sense, Skywalker didn’t because Act II of any trilogy is suppose to be the best not where the good guy overcomes all of the obstacles then you have to create and cram new obstacles into one movie. I hate Last Jedi but it would’ve at least made sense had it been the final movie of the trilogy regardless of the backlash.

Oh don't get me wrong, I completely agree on VIII as a Star Wars movie and the bind that put them in for IX. I'm not surprised they didn't postpone IX, a lot of pressure to get it out on time and a lot antsy fans who were already skeptical after VIII would've been hard to appease in the wake of that. I also don't disagree that it would've been a better end movie than middle, obviously a few things would need changed with the ending and wrapping it up but it felt more like an end, almost like Rian Johnson just wanted to tie up all the stories the way he wanted while he could.

 

[ElTexan]

They could have made a 6. JJ made a 2. And yes, meant that how it reads.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

My order:

Episode 5 - One of the best sequels of all time. Great story, continued to STRONGLY build an entire universe. While it 100% required E4s setup, the film was nearly flawless on every level.
Episode 4 (TIE to 5) - Great space adventure movie. Since Vader escaped you knew it was going somewhere. Great character development. Episode 5 was nowhere NEAR possible without Episode 4.
Episode 3 - The Anakin 'baby' moments were laughable but there was some good action and it was not as cheeseball as the Ewoks. Final lightsaber battle was pretty epic and had amazing EMOTION (see what Disney didn't do) with great choreography.
Episode 6 - I mean.... eh? It concluded the great Darth/Luke arc. It REALLY fell flat in the middle. The beginning and ending were what it was all about. They could've cut out most of Endor and few would've missed it.
Episode 1 - The CGI doesn't hold up at all, but I applauded Lucas for doing something different. Jar Jar was annoying, Anakin and some of the plotline didn't make a great deal of sense, but it setup an ENTIRELY different world instead of just going off the familiar (see E7).
Rogue One (thought it was horribly overrated but still okay) - This movie to me.. was just boring as F. Star Wars is a fun adventure series. I wanted a fun sort of Ocean's Eleven space heist movie and I got... BORING.

GAP from here to below is large

Episode 7 - Right after I saw this my bro in law said, "What'd ya think?" My answer? "Eh..." I get Star Wars wanted to keep it safe, and that's the problem with the whole 3rd trilogy in general. It had ZERO clue where it was going. All the NEW characters that we're supposed to care about with exception of Kylo were pretty bland.
Episode 8 - I mean... this had an AMAZING opportunity to go somewhere really cool. Kylo and Rey team up.. they don't need to be lovers, but you had an incredible opportunity to do something that Star Wars has not shown in movies before. I applaud Rian for doing something different at least. The political crap got tiresome but that's not any different with any Disney movie you watch these days. This movie was fairly decent for the 1st half, but post Kylo/Rey/Snoke scene it fell flat on it's face. This was cutting out Tico, Holdo and Casino planet and Kylo/Ren 'new order' away from something decent.
Episode 2 (TIE to 8) - This was just... WTF. I get the Clone Wars were involved so you gotta have Clone thingies right! So the Jedi are like, "Someone built all these clones, WTF?!" and then the Jedi are like, "Well F it, let's just use em'." Padme and Anakin's scenes were f'ing terrible, but in a HILARIOUS way. I was cracking up amused and what dumb thing they'd say in the next scene, and this gave birth to Red Letter Medias SW EP2 review, which is the most amusing review I've ever seen.
Episode 9 - I mean... Episode 7 was 'play it safe, kill off old characters and introduce new." Episode 8 TRIED something different and utterly failed at the end. Episode 9... what the fuck... The story was terrible because THERE WAS NOTHING TO BUILD ON from Episode 7/8. Visuals were impressive but F that. The only person I cared about was Kylo and his arc was kind of trashed anyway. It could've been SO much more cool with Episode 8 doing something different at the end.


Never saw Solo so can't rate it.

TLDR:
Original trilogy - Generally great all around. Fuck Endor.
Prequels there was good/bad - AT LEAST it had a direction and cohesive story.
Disney trash - Good fucking lord. It was 100% clear they had ZERO direction of telling a trilogy. Just diarrhea 'Star Wars' on the screen and 'we're in the money' which is bullshit.
Rogue One - *yawn*