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So let me get this straight SEC fans...

ericd7633

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It pretty much comes down to this. The reason the B1G has a perceived tougher bowl slate is because they stink during the regular season. They actually have favorable matchups this year.

B1G #1 vs. Pac 12 #1
B1G #2 vs. ACC #2
B1G #3 vs. SEC #3/4
B1G #4 vs. SEC #5
B1G #5 vs. SEC #6/7
B1G #6 vs. ACC #7-10
B1G #7 vs. Big 12 #5

So basically one match up not in the B1G's favor. And even then both are about equal. I don't get this whole argument of the B1G having bad bowl tie ins. If the B1G didn't perform so poorly during the season they wouldn't be ranked behind their opposition in most of these games.
 

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My eye is twitching. If I yell maybe you guys will get it.

SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT! EVEN THOUGH THE SEC IS BETTER TOP TO BOTTOM, YOUR BOWL SCHEDULE IS AS HARD AS OURS BECAUSE 2 LOSS SOUTH CAROLINA IS RANKED LOWER IN THE SEC THAN 3 LOSS WISCONSIN IS IN THE B1G???!!!!

MAKES SENSE!!

NO REALLY!

NO NOT REALLY!
 

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My eye is twitching. If I yell maybe you guys will get it.

SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT! EVEN THOUGH THE SEC IS BETTER TOP TO BOTTOM, YOUR BOWL SCHEDULE IS AS HARD AS OURS BECAUSE 2 LOSS SOUTH CAROLINA IS RANKED LOWER IN THE SEC THAN 3 LOSS WISCONSIN IS IN THE B1G???!!!!

MAKES SENSE!!

NO REALLY!

NO NOT REALLY!

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It pretty much comes down to this. The reason the B1G has a perceived tougher bowl slate is because they stink during the regular season. They actually have favorable matchups this year.

B1G #1 vs. Pac 12 #1
B1G #2 vs. ACC #2
B1G #3 vs. SEC #3/4
B1G #4 vs. SEC #5
B1G #5 vs. SEC #6/7
B1G #6 vs. ACC #7-10
B1G #7 vs. Big 12 #5

So basically one match up not in the B1G's favor. And even then both are about equal. I don't get this whole argument of the B1G having bad bowl tie ins. If the B1G didn't perform so poorly during the season they wouldn't be ranked behind their opposition in most of these games.

Jesus Christ. If they're not as good as the other conferences, HOW does their conference ranking = a favorable matchup????

If you suck, and we all know we do, HOW are we suddenly expected to win.

I mean we're already down. You don't have to come up with lawyer shit to make us look even worse. "You guys should have won those games. Your teams were better." No. No they aren't. If they win it's a fucking miracle.
 

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being expected to win is irrelevant. winning matters. Georgia being expected to win simply means the 6th or 7th best SEC team is thought to be better than the 5th best Big 10 team, even without their starting QB.

i think all 3 games will be competitive.

For the record, UGA may be facing Nebraska's 3rd stringer...
 

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Jesus Christ. If they're not as good as the other conferences, HOW does their conference ranking = a favorable matchup????

If you suck, and we all know we do, HOW are we suddenly expected to win.

I mean we're already down. You don't have to come up with lawyer shit to make us look even worse. "You guys should have won those games. Your teams were better." No. No they aren't. If they win it's a fucking miracle.

Going off the premise of not knowing anything, those are favorable match ups. If the 3rd best team in one league is playing the 4th best team in another that = a favorable match up. I can't help the fact that the 3rd best team in said league is worse than the 4th best team in other league. Like I said, have teams take care of business during the regular season and you won't be ranked behind them.
 

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Going off the premise of not knowing anything, those are favorable match ups. If the 3rd best team in one league is playing the 4th best team in another that = a favorable match up. I can't help the fact that the 3rd best team in said league is worse than the 4th best team in other league. Like I said, have teams take care of business during the regular season and you won't be ranked behind them.

And a 10-3 team going against a 8-4 team, who is going to be viewed as the favorite?
 

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So, your argument is that your bowl schedule is harder because you suck... got it.
Your #3 team plays the SEC #4
Your #4 team plays the SEC #5
Your #5 team plays the SEC #6

SEC favored in all? Why is that?

Would you like to just start with our #7 and work down from there?

Actually #19 Wisconsin opened as a 3 point favorite over #9 South Carolina.
 

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FACT: TEAM SEC WILL ALWAYS BE MORE SUPERIOR, NO MATTER WHAT.

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Format Team (rank) vs Team (rank) rank differential
SEC
Missouri (8) vs Ok St. (13) +5
South Carolina (9) vs Wisconsin(19) +10
Georgia (22) vs Nebraska(37) +15
Vandy (32) vs Houston(47) +15
Auburn (2) vs FSU (1) -1
Alabama (3) vs Oklahoma (11) +8
LSU (16) vs Iowa (34) +18
Texas A&M (21) vs Duke (24) +3
Mississippi St (43) vs Rice (33) -10
Ole Miss (39) vs Georgia Tech (45) +6
Total Ranking Differential: +69
Average Opponent Ranking: 26.4
Opponents in Top 25: 5 (50% of opponents)

B1G
Michigan State (4) vs Stanford (5) -1
Iowa (34) vs LSU (16) -18
Nebraska (37) vs Georgia (22) -15
Minnesota (36) vs Syracuse (59) +23
Michigan (41) vs Kansas State (45) +4
Ohio State (7) vs Clemson (12) +5
Wisconsin (19) vs South Carolina (9) -10
Total Ranking Differential: 11
Average Opponent Ranking: 24
Opponents in Top 25: 5 (71.4% of opponents)

Looks to me that the B1G has much harder bowl games and that is to be expected. Because the SEC has so many teams ranked and is the best conference, they will be ranked higher and thus it will be harder to find teams that are even with them to match up.

Comparing conference rankings doesn't mean shit. You're comparing the rankings of 12 teams between those 12 teams to the ranking of 12 different teams to the rankings of those same 12 different teams. That's like saying $1=1Euro.
 

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big ten fans wait until after bowl season to whine about travel, so get ready for that too
 

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And a 10-3 team going against a 8-4 team, who is going to be viewed as the favorite?

Obviously the 10-3 team is going to be viewed as the favorite as they are the better team. But don't blame one team for being 10-3 and positioned further back in conference standing than the 8-4 team in the other conference. That is the fault of the 8-4 team.
 

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Obviously the 10-3 team is going to be viewed as the favorite as they are the better team. But don't blame one team for being 10-3 and positioned further back in conference standing than the 8-4 team in the other conference. That is the fault of the 8-4 team.

Wrong. That 8-4 team is ranked higher than the 10-3 team, because that 8-4 team plays in a tougher conference.
 

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Obviously the 10-3 team is going to be viewed as the favorite as they are the better team. But don't blame one team for being 10-3 and positioned further back in conference standing than the 8-4 team in the other conference. That is the fault of the 8-4 team.

So would going against a 10-3 team be viewed as tougher than going against an 8-4 team?

If so then how is it that the team going against the 8-4 team, who is ranked below them, got a harder draw than the team who is 8-4 playing a much higher ranked 10-3 team? Where they finished in the conference means nothing.
 

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To sum up:
In the regular season it is 100% for sure that the SEC is deeper, more talented and a MUCH better league overrall so teams in said league need to be given the benefit of the doubt when losing as it pertains to rankings, BCS positioning and overrall perception.
Once the regular season is over: The SEC is at a disadvantage because teams like USCe/LSU/UGA etc are ranked lower in their conference than the teams they are playing. Now clearly ALL conferences are on equal footing ( once the regular season is over) so it is patently unfair to the SEC to have to play teams like Wisconsin/Iowa/Nebraska because those teams finished higher in the B10.

- That about right???
 

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To sum up:
In the regular season it is 100% for sure that the SEC is deeper, more talented and a MUCH better league overrall so teams in said league need to be given the benefit of the doubt when losing as it pertains to rankings, BCS positioning and overrall perception.
Once the regular season is over: The SEC is at a disadvantage because teams like USCe/LSU/UGA etc are ranked lower in their conference than the teams they are playing. Now clearly ALL conferences are on equal footing ( once the regular season is over) so it is patently unfair to the SEC to have to play teams like Wisconsin/Iowa/Nebraska because those teams finished higher in the B10.

- That about right???
Well I kinda of break it down into the SEC and ACC tried to get a playoff for years and the B1G (particularly Delany), Pac and Big 12 blocked those efforts so in my mind it's Karma. If the other conferences had been interested in doing this right it could have gotten done years ago and saved everyone pain.

So if the SEC got the benefit of the doubt more than anyone else you know who to blame and it ain't ESPN.
 
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