Rangers back home to face a tough opponent: ATL @ TEX 5/15-17

[DT LUNA]

Bubba was given a whole lot of time in the minors. Not as much as Leody, but a lot.

Nomar played more games in the minors than Bubba did. Just because guys aren't successful at the big leagues level doesn't mean they needed more time in the minors.

Agree. Some peak and reach hightest peak in minors and never reach MLB level.

 

[Kelleyman]

"Urgent" doesn't come to mind. As far as his real chances here, the term "that ship has sailed" comes to mind. They have moved on in their minds from him and the Garver acquisition showed that.

Now, if they made a mistake in doing that, remains to be seen. I think it will prove to be one, but then I thought Mike Olt was going to be a good player, so what do I know. Of course, I don't believe Olt ever hit as well as Huff has in the big leagues.

I brought his stats up because I think it is silly to intimate that he has been anything close to a failure already.

No I think a club has to hedge their bets and Huff can continue to develop. Plenty of backup help us a good thing.

It’s ok to be a Huff fan and I don’t think he is a failure. I just think he is unproven and surely sure not take ABs from Heim 1B or DH spot

 

[scotsman#1948]

Exactly.

Huff has had very sporadic chances in the big leagues. Not counting this last appearance up here where I think he got a total of 3 starts, Huff has basically played in 4 different months spread out from September of 2020 to September of 2022. He has had 3 satisfactory or better months when judged by his OPS.. Those were .755, .763 and 1.136. His one bad month was in June of 2022 when he only had 7 starts in 18 days.

There is no evidence whatsoever that if he ever got a chance to play 20 games a month or more that he would fail, and yet there are several who think he cannot perform. That one great OPS above comes from the month where he started the most often. It was 9 starts over 17 days, the only time his number of starts topped 50% of the days that were covered.

simple question: who would you bench to give him those 20 starts? Heim? Lowe?

 

[scotsman#1948]

No I think a club has to hedge their bets and Huff can continue to develop. Plenty of backup help us a good thing.

It’s ok to be a Huff fan and I don’t think he is a failure. I just think he is unproven and surely sure not take ABs from Heim 1B or DH spot

i don't think he is a failure either but there is no logical way to give him 20 starts a month without benching another starter who is performing to giving him MLB starts. should we bench Duran so Huff can DH? Should we bench Lowe because if you do then he either DH's and Duran sits or Lowe sits losing his bat? Do we bench Heim who is having a top 5 catching season because he either sits on the bench or pushes Duran etc to the bench>

Semien
Seager
Lowe
Garcia
Jung
Heim
Grossman
Duran
Taveras

Pick your poison

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

Stake In Texas Rangers For Sale At $3 Billion Valuation

 

[saddles]

simple question: who would you bench to give him those 20 starts? Heim? Lowe?

Like I said earlier, that ship has sailed.

I have said I think he will have success if played that much. That will come with another team, not this one.

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

No I think a club has to hedge their bets and Huff can continue to develop. Plenty of backup help us a good thing.

It’s ok to be a Huff fan and I don’t think he is a failure. I just think he is unproven and surely sure not take ABs from Heim 1B or DH spot

Question: what about Huff makes you think he's going to develop past where he is? He's never hit above .270 at any level, and the high mark was in Rookie ball.

 

[scotsman#1948]

Like I said earlier, that ship has sailed.

I have said I think he will have success if played that much. That will come with another team, not this one.

agreed. hate to lose him but right now a trade would be best for him and the team. maybe for a really good bullpen piece

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

Like I said earlier, that ship has sailed.

I have said I think he will have success if played that much. That will come with another team, not this one.

he's got 1900 place appearances in AAA, and the results aren't exactly stellar. he looks overmatched by MLB pitching. I think the idea of Huff is more appealing than the reality of Huff.

 

[DT LUNA]

Like I said earlier, that ship has sailed.

I have said I think he will have success if played that much. That will come with another team, not this one.

Think you are right but I would like to see a better back up than Leon.

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

agreed. hate to lose him but right now a trade would be best for him and the team. maybe for a really good bullpen piece

Huff isn't gonna bring that back. maybe an A ball pitcher with a potential high upside.

 

[scotsman#1948]

Huff isn't gonna bring that back. maybe an A ball pitcher with a potential high upside.

depending on the package put around him he would

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

depending on the package put around him he would

I guess that's what I meant. Only way Huff is bringing back a really good bullpen piece is if he's part of a package that includes 1 or 2 better players. He wouldn't be the centerpiece.

 

[saddles]

he's got 1900 place appearances in AAA, and the results aren't exactly stellar. he looks overmatched by MLB pitching. I think the idea of Huff is more appealing than the reality of Huff.

His career numbers in the big leagues say something different than how you are portraying him. The numbers are the reality.

At the end of last year many felt Duran was overmatched. Before this year Jank looked overmatched. Huff's numbers currently look much better than either one of those guy's numbers before this season.

Huff is no sure thing to ever have a successful career, but to say he has alresdy proven he cannot, just doesn't make sense to me when I look at his numbers in the big leagues.

 

[scotsman#1948]

I guess that's what I meant. Only way Huff is bringing back a really good bullpen piece is if he's part of a package that includes 1 or 2 better players. He wouldn't be the centerpiece.

agreed. but a core with him may tempt another team who sees the potential in him

 

[saddles]

The time to trade Huff was before the Rangers showed they didn't want/need him. Back when they trade Trevino. They could have received a much better return for him then.

 

[scotsman#1948]

The time to trade Huff was before the Rangers showed they didn't want/need him. Back when they trade Trevino. They could have received a much better return for him then.

perhaps, perhaps not. the potential is still there but the room doesn't exist here at the moment. maybe a team sees that and has the room to give the opportunity

 

[Nightcrawler]

I don’t see why a young rebuilding team with no expectations to win wouldn’t trade for Huff and see for themselves if he develops by playing in the mlb everyday And they could give him that time.

 

[DT LUNA]

I don’t see why a young rebuilding team with no expectations to win wouldn’t trade for Huff and see for themselves if he develops by playing in the mlb everyday And they could give him that time.

They probably would but what are they willing to trade?

 

[Kelleyman]

I don’t see why a young rebuilding team with no expectations to win wouldn’t trade for Huff and see for themselves if he develops by playing in the mlb everyday And they could give him that time.

They might if they assess him as having a promising future but the Rangers are no longer developing. They are in win now mode and young guys get their shot if the established bet is injured or non producing. They can now develop at the MILB level
They like me thought Duran bat would produce at the MLB level.

It makes no sense minus injury to Heim to have Huff get many meaningful ABs at the MLB level right now. Maybe later in the season but more likely next year