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Does Alaska Guy have a brain?

Or does he just post links and pictures?
 

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Don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but what the elite school's may fear, and what the rest of us should want, is that an economic reimbursement program to all College athletes would probably have the effect of leveling the recruiting and playing field across the NCAA. Some schools would no longer have "hidden" benefit packages (aka bribery, fake jobs, etc) as an unfair enticement to young recruits. Instead, HS athletes could attend any school knowing that compensation would probably be uniform and fair. Then, the actual criteria for choosing a school might change to emphasizing education and intangibles like distance from home, etc.

I am proud that Cal students are behind this. They are a credit to the university and society.
You do know there is a huge gap between a school like Cal and LSU right.. even if all athletes were going to make the same stipend, the NIL would be more valuable in Baton Rouge than in Berkely.

And there still would be jobs and extra handouts if need to be. That's not going away. Maybe I'm wrong and Cal has around the same number of passionate boosters like LSU, or Texas has and can come up with extra incentives too
 

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You do know there is a huge gap between a school like Cal and LSU right.. even if all athletes were going to make the same stipend, the NIL would be more valuable in Baton Rouge than in Berkely.

And there still would be jobs and extra handouts if need to be. That's not
going away. Maybe I'm wrong and Cal has around the same number of passionate boosters like LSU, or Texas has and can come up with extra incentives too

Yeah, I don't see "equal pay" or whatever, making much of a difference. End of the day, Kids want to go to the program that is most likely to get them to the NFL.

Additionally, paying the kids may also hurt a programs chances at getting better coaches because they can't/won't pay them as much as others.
 

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While a handful of players have expressed support for the players that are talking about a possible opt out, it looks like things have stayed pretty quiet at USC.

Apparently, there were no representatives from USC on the letter they sent and no one has said they would opt out yet.

Which USC football players have expressed support for Pac-12 opt-out?

Don't know if there will eventually be some who do. But for right now, USC players seem more interested in playing football.
 

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You do know there is a huge gap between a school like Cal and LSU right.. even if all athletes were going to make the same stipend, the NIL would be more valuable in Baton Rouge than in Berkely.

And there still would be jobs and extra handouts if need to be. That's not going away. Maybe I'm wrong and Cal has around the same number of passionate boosters like LSU, or Texas has and can come up with extra incentives too
depends on how NIL ends up being allowed. it isnt just about what boosters can and would do for a player. there is also social media.
this list was put together last year
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Sabrina probably should be higher on that list.
 

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She was getting as much national attention as just about anyone above her.

That may be true but being active and having a large following on social media will get you a lot of endorsement deals. It's not about who is the best player
 

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That may be true but being active and having a large following on social media will get you a lot of endorsement deals. It's not about who is the best player

She could have gotten a huge endorsement deal with Nike in college. She was the biggest name in women's basketball.
 

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She could have gotten a huge endorsement deal with Nike in college. She was the biggest name in women's basketball.

Possibly. People don't understand how big social media is when it comes to marketing and endorsements. However, if Sabrina knew she was going to profit off of it, she probably would have maintained a larger social media presence.
 

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I really like the request for 1 free transfer, 6 year scholarships, and being able to return to college if you go undrafted.

That is the only remotely reasonable except the players are idiots for thinking those are a conference issue.
 

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The Pac-12 is planning a mammoth loan program that would provide an escape hatch for cash-strapped athletic departments in the event the football season is canceled because of coronavirus, according to internal documents and conference sources.

Football accounts for the majority of each department’s revenue, generating in excess of $50 million dollars in ticket sales and media rights alone.

The loan program would be large enough to cover that loss for each school, if needed:

According to a series of emails obtained by the Hotline through public records requests, the loan would provide a maximum of $83 million for each university at a rate of 3.75 percent over 10 years.


Each athletic department could decide whether it wanted to participate in the program.

If all 12 opted for the maximum amount, the total would be $996 million.

“The conference is trying to be nimble and give schools some options,’’ a source said.

However, multiple sources indicated that not every school would make use of the loan, and some would seek substantially less than the maximum allowable. If the Pac-12 plays a full football season, the plan could be pushed aside entirely.

The idea is popular with university presidents because the loan would allow schools to bridge the coronavirus crisis without having the implement massive budget cuts that could include widespread layoffs and possibly the elimination of Olympic sports teams, which do not generate a profit.



They better clean up at the negotiation table next round
 

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Don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but what the elite school's may fear, and what the rest of us should want, is that an economic reimbursement program to all College athletes would probably have the effect of leveling the recruiting and playing field across the NCAA.

Not likely.

You are forgetting that some schools have more money than others and some have fewer hoops to jump through.

One of the main things a top prospect is looking for is "who can get me to the NFL". A big part of that is coaching. Some schools can spend more on coaches than others.

For example, USC as a private school, has more money and a far less cumbersome hiring process than UCLA which is a public school.

So, in a situation where both schools are having to pay players and looking for a new coach, USC is going to have a faster hiring process and be able to spend about the same amount as they would now.

Meanwhile, UCLA will have a slower process and less money to spend on a coach than they have now (which is already less than USC can offer).

Imo, if anything, paying players could widen the talent gap.
 
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