Ongoing NHL thread - Part III

[Dacks]

Why I like to call him Moneyhands (heck of a play by Dougie leading up to the nice finish.

The OT winner from last night - You shoot it, no you shoot it, no you shoot it, okay!

I was there, Dash! Pretty slow start, but the ending made up for it, and Monahan's goal... wow.

Pissed at the Sens for tying it up with 1:02 remaining though. If they'd waited two seconds, I'd have a free Big Mac!

 

[forty_three]

The Chemistry between Cam Atkinson and John Tavares is undeniable.

Sorry, Toronto. Johnny T will be coming to the 'bus.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

The Chemistry between Cam Atkinson and John Tavares is undeniable.

Sorry, Toronto. Johnny T will be coming to the 'bus.

Isn't Atkinson UFA at the same time?

The two of them will make an excellent Leafs second line alongside JVR.

 

[forty_three]

Isn't Atkinson UFA at the same time?

The two of them will make an excellent Leafs second line alongside JVR.

If Atkinson makes it to UFA, I will be shocked.

 

[dash]

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

 

[dash]

The Islanders are looking for a new arena...

Brooklyn’s Barclays Center Is Dumping the Islanders

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

The Islanders are looking for a new arena...

Brooklyn’s Barclays Center Is Dumping the Islanders

That Barclay's move was a disaster from day 1.

I would assume MSG Company probably has no interest in having another hockey team as a tenant given that they've already got two full-time tenants, several smaller teams and tournaments, and a shitload of concerts and other special events.

So it's either back to the Island, a new arena, or complete relocation. I doubt option #3 is really an option, so we'll see how it plays out.

 

[dash]

So I didn't know that NVMC is undergoing a massive renovation with a completion date later this year - Sounds like this is the best option currently for the Isles.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

great couple weeks for Dabolts huh???

 

[dash]

great couple weeks for Dabolts huh???

Geez, no kidding.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

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So it's either back to the Island, a new arena, or complete relocation. I doubt option #3 is really an option, so we'll see how it plays out.

Maybe it is though?

The Isles are lucky the Coyotes and Thrashers and Panthers existed in the last 20 years because that franchise has been run into the ground over that time. Back to the island (or further out, technically) isn't really an option (I heard today the redeveloped NVMC will only hold 13k for hockey) and IMO building a new barn in Queens is a tough task in a city with two world class arenas as it is (three counting Newark) and will probably have the same attendance issues even if it's built to hockey specs. I get the history of the team and the fact they do still have a decent LI-based fan base but barring an (at this point) unlikely new barn near their old one (whose owners would put money into a fight against any competition for concert and event dollars), what options are left for them in that region?

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Bettman on Saturday:

“There are some issues about playing in Barclays, it may be fundamental to the ice system and that’s not something that can be fixed in the short term,” the commissioner said. “I think as is prudent, Scott Malkin and Jon Ledecky are reviewing the situation and looking very seriously at what their options are.”

Barclays Center today: Pack your shit!

 

[dash]

Where's John Spano when you really need him?

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

Maybe it is though?

The Isles are lucky the Coyotes and Thrashers and Panthers existed in the last 20 years because that franchise has been run into the ground over that time. Back to the island (or further out, technically) isn't really an option (I heard today the redeveloped NVMC will only hold 13k for hockey) and IMO building a new barn in Queens is a tough task in a city with two world class arenas as it is (three counting Newark) and will probably have the same attendance issues even if it's built to hockey specs. I get the history of the team and the fact they do still have a decent LI-based fan base but barring an (at this point) unlikely new barn near their old one (whose owners would put money into a fight against any competition for concert and event dollars), what options are left for them in that region?

I wouldn't count Newark personally. I've got no hard data to back this up, but I can't imagine too many people are venturing from NYC into beautiful downtown Newark for many events. And MSG and Barclays are both doing fantastic in terms of concerts and other events, so I wouldn't say there's significant excess arena capacity in the city right now.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Where's John Spano when you really need him?

Last I heard he was trying to sell someone the Belt Parkway.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I wouldn't count Newark personally. I've got no hard data to back this up, but I can't imagine too many people are venturing from NYC into beautiful downtown Newark for many events. And MSG and Barclays are both doing fantastic in terms of concerts and other events, so I wouldn't say there's significant excess arena capacity in the city right now.

Mmmmm I would say they do. If there's an event you can't get tickets to in BK or MSG, why not take an extra 15-20 minutes to get to Newark? They do it for Jets/Giants games, that's for sure.

That's the thing, though - those two arenas are doing great. Throw a third into the mix, how much of a revenue drop do they see? How much leverage do they lose when organizers and promoters can say "Oh, theres a new arena in Queens that needs to fill 320 dates if you don't like what we're offering"? Keep in mind MSG fought tooth and nail against the West Side Stadium for that very reason and won.

 

[esls79]

Is Staten Island still an island? Done deal.

 

[tabascojet]

hartford islanders.....

 

[tabascojet]

or better yet put them on the mohegan sun reservation.....cha ching!!