"Oklahoma's the real all-time AP Poll No. 1, says a better system than the AP's own"

[nathans8823]

@MarkOU you're gonna like this one.
www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/8/3/12362210/ap-top-25-poll-all-time-best-ncaa-football-teams-ever-oklahoma
"The Associated Press Top 25, the long-time gold standard of college football rankings, has been the data source for a lot of good ideas.

The latest: the Top 100, an all-time ranking by the AP itself, uses total weekly poll appearances (one point each), weekly No. 1 appearances (two points each), and final No. 1 rankings (10 points each) to rank the best programs since the poll began in 1936.

It's pretty good and one way to look at a large part of the sport's history.

There's a much better all-time AP Poll ranking system out there, though.
The AP's ranking gives equal points for ranking No. 25 in week two and ranking No. 2 at the end of a season.

That's flawed and somewhat self-promotional, since it implies (1.) appearing in the AP Poll at any point in the season is exactly as valuable as appearing in a season's final ranking and (2.) all rankings other than No. 1 are equally valuable.

I was looking around to see if anybody had already done a version based only on final AP Top 25s. It should also give fuller credit for ranking No. 2 or No. 3 than ranking No. 24 or No. 25.

College Football News has done just such a thing, which is good, because it meant I didn't have to. Their system awards 25 points for a team finishing No. 1 in a final AP Poll, 24 points for No. 2, and so on. Those points for all seasons are then added together. Take a look here at the CFN 135-team ranking; it also includes breakouts by decade*."

 

[MarkOU]

Good stuff!

Using final rankings is cool. Lets here the excuses of how this is bullshit and those guys are idiots.

 

[4down20]

Good stuff!

Using final rankings is cool. Lets here the excuses of how this is bullshit and those guys are idiots.

Funny that now it's an ok method. Wasn't so fine when you assumed it would be Alabama @ #1.

I'm fine with it.

 

[MarkOU]

Funny that now it's an ok method. Wasn't so fine when you assumed it would be Alabama @ #1.

I'm fine with it.

I never said it wasn't. I think I made the point, multiple times, that these things are for fun and off season fodder.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

@MarkOU you're gonna like this one.
www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/8/3/12362210/ap-top-25-poll-all-time-best-ncaa-football-teams-ever-oklahoma
"The Associated Press Top 25, the long-time gold standard of college football rankings, has been the data source for a lot of good ideas.

The latest: the Top 100, an all-time ranking by the AP itself, uses total weekly poll appearances (one point each), weekly No. 1 appearances (two points each), and final No. 1 rankings (10 points each) to rank the best programs since the poll began in 1936.

It's pretty good and one way to look at a large part of the sport's history.

There's a much better all-time AP Poll ranking system out there, though.
The AP's ranking gives equal points for ranking No. 25 in week two and ranking No. 2 at the end of a season.

That's flawed and somewhat self-promotional, since it implies (1.) appearing in the AP Poll at any point in the season is exactly as valuable as appearing in a season's final ranking and (2.) all rankings other than No. 1 are equally valuable.

I was looking around to see if anybody had already done a version based only on final AP Top 25s. It should also give fuller credit for ranking No. 2 or No. 3 than ranking No. 24 or No. 25.

College Football News has done just such a thing, which is good, because it meant I didn't have to. Their system awards 25 points for a team finishing No. 1 in a final AP Poll, 24 points for No. 2, and so on. Those points for all seasons are then added together. Take a look here at the CFN 135-team ranking; it also includes breakouts by decade*."

Great article Nathan the poll is actually solid. SC lost 1o points with a title removed Kind of makes you wonder what the rankings would be. Had the play offs been implemented sooner.

 

[4down20]

I never said it wasn't. I think I made the point, multiple times, that these things are for fun and off season fodder.

But it was an idiotic way to do the poll.

This way in the OP is the way it should have been done to start.

 

[nathans8823]

Great article Nathan the poll is actually solid. SC lost 1o points with a title removed Kind of makes you wonder what the rankings would be. Had the play offs been implemented sooner.

True and Notre Dame was also too high in the AP Top 100 IMO, this Poll makes much more sense in Today's world but that's just my opinion.

 

[Across The Field]

That's dumb, what a dumb system.

 

[nathans8823]

That's dumb, what a dumb system.

Is it because Ohio State doesn't have the #1 Spot in this Poll?

 

[Wamu]

meeeechegan is ranked way too high in both.

 

[B_dub]

@Shanemansj13

It had to be done bruh.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

True and Notre Dame was also too high in the AP Top 100 IMO, this Poll makes much more sense in Today's world but that's just my opinion.

This is true the AP has always leaned a little more towards the popularity side. Especially within the opening polls. Which has benefitted teams like ND,USC,Bama,OU and several others. Even in down years which has trickled throughout the year. You are correct there are some variables that cant be accounted for. But it is a very interesting look at the AP polls history as well. Definitely a few surprises

 

[Across The Field]

Is it because Ohio State doesn't have the #1 Spot in this Poll?

 

[nathans8823]

This is true the AP has always leaned a little more towards the popularity side. Especially within the opening polls. Which has benefitted teams like ND,USC,Bama,OU and several others. Even in down years which has trickled throughout the year. You are correct there are some variables that cant be accounted for. But it is a very interesting look at the AP polls history as well. Definitely a few surprises

Now we just have to wait to see what the Preseason AP Poll will look like. Shouldn't be too long.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Now we just have to wait to see what the Preseason AP Poll will look like. Shouldn't be too long.

I'm expecting to see a lot of teams ranked higher than they should be. Including USC they do have the talent but they also aren't quite there yet

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

I like it, movin' on up

 

[outofyourmind]

 

[ralphiewvu]

Best thing on that page was this:

Let Arkansas head coach Bret Bielema cook you something special

 

[Rolltide94]

Best thing on that page was this:

Let Arkansas head coach Bret Bielema cook you something special

No big surprise there, Fatty McFatterson looks like he could cook up some grub.

 

[ralphiewvu]

No big surprise there, Fatty McFatterson looks like he could cook up some grub.

Yeah but his wife don't get squat. But I can deal with it.