MLB trade deadline 2012

[Epic Voidfield]

LOL. Ichiro / Pence dead on.

 

[SFAnthem]

Perhaps a big misplay on Demptser by the Dodgers.

May their arrogance come back to bite them in the proverbial ass

and Lily, Harang, Billingsly, and Capuano remember what type of pitchers they really are.

I also like to think the League move was a semi-block of the Giants

 

[SFGRTB]

CF-Blanco/Pagan
2B-Theriot
LF-Cabrera
C-Posey
3B-Sandoval
RF-Pence
1B-Belt
SS-Crawford/Scutaro

Vs.

LF-Victorino
2B-Ellis
CF-Kemp
RF-Ethier
3B-Ramirez
1B-Loney/Rivera
SS-Cruz/Hariston
C-Ellis

Which would you take?

 

[ColinCoby]

Jim Bowden: The Giants’ No. 1 priority was to acquire a right fielder and No. 5 hitter without giving up Brandon Belt or prospects Gary Brown, Heath Hembree or Joe Panik. General manager Brian Sabean accomplished this in his trade for Pence. Unlike last year, when Sabean traded for half-season rental Carlos Beltran, they'll control Pence through 2013, which also gives them protection for next year if they can't re-sign Melky Cabrera.

 

[calsnowskier]

Chances Nate puts up better numbers for the Phils over the the next 1.5 years than Pence does for the Giants over the same time period?

Nate will be playing in a band box while Pence will be playing in Yellowstone National.

In his first two games in the Phils org, Joseph is 4-7 with a 2B, a run and an RBI.

 

[gp956]

Chances Nate puts up better numbers for the Phils over the the next 1.5 years than Pence does for the Giants over the same time period?

Nate will be playing in a band box while Pence will be playing in Yellowstone National.

In his first two games in the Phils org, Joseph is 4-7 with a 2B, a run and an RBI.

A bit of a Bayesian answer here: given that Nate sticks with the Phillies:

• Straight up stats? 75%
• Park adjusted stats? 51%
• Chance that Charlie Manual changes Nate's flat balanced swing, into a backfoot loaded upper cut? 35%
  • And given that, chance Nate turns into Jayson Werth 10%

 

[calsnowskier]

A bit of a Bayesian answer here: given that Nate sticks with the Phillies:

• Straight up stats? 75%
• Park adjusted stats? 51%
• Chance that Charlie Manual changes Nate's flat balanced swing, into a backfoot loaded upper cut? 35%
  • And given that, chance Nate turns into Jayson Werth 10%

I believe that if you adjust for park, Pence will CERTAINLY have better numbers.

My point was just straight up stats, and I think there is a decent chance that Nate will "perform better" than Hunter...

 

[Heathbar012]

I believe that if you adjust for park, Pence will CERTAINLY have better numbers.

My point was just straight up stats, and I think there is a decent chance that Nate will "perform better" than Hunter...

<---- Then, these guys will have a field day, but nothing makes them happy, anyway.

 

[calsnowskier]

<---- Then, these guys will have a field day, but nothing makes them happy, anyway.

This was also, kinda, my point.

WE all know that park affect between Philly and SF is MASSIVE. The PFCDs, however...

 

[calsnowskier]

A bit of a Bayesian answer here: given that Nate sticks with the Phillies:

• Straight up stats? 75%
• Park adjusted stats? 51%
• Chance that Charlie Manual changes Nate's flat balanced swing, into a backfoot loaded upper cut? 35%
  • And given that, chance Nate turns into Jayson Werth 10%

Whoa...

I just noticed...

You believe that there is a better than average chance that Nate will put up better numbers AFTER park adjustment?

That, sir, is a bold statement...

 

[calsnowskier]

Another Pence-related question...

At last years deadline, do we do a Joseph/Wheeler/Nate/Rosin for Pence trade? Does Houston accept that offer?

Just some food for thought...

 

[gp956]

Whoa...

I just noticed...

You believe that there is a better than average chance that Nate will put up better numbers AFTER park adjustment?

That, sir, is a bold statement...

Definitely going way out on a limb with that one. I've never been a fan of Nate's setup or swing, but his eye hand coordination and innate power are impressive. I really think Charlie Manual has a chance to remake Nate into a much better hitter. Although, at 28, Nate is running out of time.

 

[gp956]

This was also, kinda, my point.

WE all know that park affect between Philly and SF is MASSIVE. The PFCDs, however...

Yeah...didn't consider that angle. That's something to look forward to.

 

[TheSaboteur]

Dodgers awarded waiver claim on Cliff Lee. I assume they are doing this to block other teams, like what the Giants did with Heath Bell last year?

 

[Heathbar012]

Dodgers awarded waiver claim on Cliff Lee. I assume they are doing this to block other teams, like what the Giants did with Heath Bell last year?

They actually need another front of the rotation starter. I don't think they have the prospects to make a deal happen, but I also don't think that this is purely a blocking move. If they do get him, wow.

 

[jingo]

Don't know if this was already posted:

PHILADELPHIA -- Joe Blanton earned a World Series ring the last time he was traded. He's hoping for an encore.

The right-hander was sent from the Philadelphia Phillies to the Dodgers on Friday after Los Angeles claimed him on waivers.

A source confirmed to ESPNLosAngeles.com's Ramona Shelburne that the Phillies will receive a minor-league player to be named later for Blanton.

 

[gp956]

They actually need another front of the rotation starter. I don't think they have the prospects to make a deal happen, but I also don't think that this is purely a blocking move. If they do get him, wow.

I don't know the details of what it might take, but a national writer being interviewed on KNBR thought it could happen. Cited Phillies needing to reduce salary going forward as an important factor on their end.

 

[mistgl]

They actually need another front of the rotation starter. I don't think they have the prospects to make a deal happen, but I also don't think that this is purely a blocking move. If they do get him, wow.

the Phillies can just dump the entire contract on them now.

 

[SFAnthem]

Don't know if this was already posted:

PHILADELPHIA -- Joe Blanton earned a World Series ring the last time he was traded. He's hoping for an encore.

The right-hander was sent from the Philadelphia Phillies to the Dodgers on Friday after Los Angeles claimed him on waivers.

A source confirmed to ESPNLosAngeles.com's Ramona Shelburne that the Phillies will receive a minor-league player to be named later for Blanton.

For some reason, I thought Blanton went to the O's. He's underrated..it's a good move by the dogs

 

[MarcoPolo]

the Phillies can just dump the entire contract on them now.

Yup. The Phillies got the first two "cheap" years of the contract, and the Dodgers could have to pay the 3 at $25M *AND* the 12.5M option buyout. Even if the Phillies don't get much back, there's a certain benefit to cutting their salary by that much over 3-4 years. But I don't follow the team that much, so I don't know how well or poorly stocked they are with young starting pitching.