Michael Jordan is a hypocrite

[flyerhawk]

Five beats 3: MJ still ranks Kobe over LeBron

He claims that Kobe is higher on the all time list than Lebron because he has 5 rings while Lebron only has 3.

If he really believes that then Bill Russell is a better player than he is. Somehow I doubt he thinks so.

 

[gordontrue]

Top 10 all-time, according to MJ logic:

1. Bill Russell
   
   
2. Sam Jones
   
   
3. Tom Heinsohn
   
   
4. K. C. Jones
   
   
5. Tom "Satch" Sanders
   
   
6. John Havlicek
   
   
7. Jim Loscutoff
   
   
8. Frank Ramsey
   
   
9. Robert Horry
   
   
10. Bob Cousy
    

 

[CitySushi]

Top 10 all-time, according to MJ logic:

1. Bill Russell
   
   
2. Sam Jones
   
   
3. Tom Heinsohn
   
   
4. K. C. Jones
   
   
5. Tom "Satch" Sanders
   
   
6. John Havlicek
   
   
7. Jim Loscutoff
   
   
8. Frank Ramsey
   
   
9. Robert Horry
   
   
10. Bob Cousy

Steve Kerr also better than Kobe because he's got 5 rings, but he's also got 2 more as a coach.

 

[tlance]

Five beats 3: MJ still ranks Kobe over LeBron

He claims that Kobe is higher on the all time list than Lebron because he has 5 rings while Lebron only has 3.

If he really believes that then Bill Russell is a better player than he is. Somehow I doubt he thinks so.

I don't think he is a hypocrite so much as he is protecting his own self interest. Last I checked, 6 beats 5 too.

And Jim Loscutoff is definitely better than Jordan.

 

[flyerhawk]

I don't think he is a hypocrite so much as he is protecting his own self interest. Last I checked, 6 beats 5 too.

And Jim Loscutoff is definitely better than Jordan.

Do you think he thinks that Bill Russell was better than he was?

 

[tlance]

Do you think he thinks that Bill Russell was better than he was?

No.

But we all know that any rings before 1980 don't really count. LOL.

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

He would be a hypocrite if he thinks Kobe is better ONLY because of more rings. Maybe he think they are very close and rings is the deciding factor for him.

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

Top 10 all-time, according to MJ logic:

1. Bill Russell
   
   
2. Sam Jones
   
   
3. Tom Heinsohn
   
   
4. K. C. Jones
   
   
5. Tom "Satch" Sanders
   
   
6. John Havlicek
   
   
7. Jim Loscutoff
   
   
8. Frank Ramsey
   
   
9. Robert Horry
   
   
10. Bob Cousy

We only remember Horry rings, therefore, he is the greatest.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Do you think he thinks that Bill Russell was better than he was?

Bill had a major role in all those titles, I don't think they would've won that many without him, but he played with a host of HOF players that handled most of the scoring...different role from MJ, Kobe, LeBron.

As players go...Lebron has surpassed Kobe, he's better...as accomplishments go, Kobe getting two more rings without Shaq has him ahead of Lebron as well imo.

 

[CitySushi]

Well I agree with Tlance that it's self-serving of Jordan.

He says Kobe is better than Lebron because his 5 rings are better than Lebron's 3. This is self serving because if you use that metric to compare Kobe and Lebron, Lebron will never be better than Kobe (likely). At the same time Kobe is universally considered less than Jordan, so Jordan would always be viewed better, especially because their games were similar and they played the same position. It prevents Jordan from ever being compared to Lebron, which from a skill set POV could be argued.

 

[CitySushi]

Bill had a major role in all those titles, I don't think they would've won that many without him, but he played with a host of HOF players that handled most of the scoring...different role from MJ, Kobe, LeBron.

As players go...Lebron has surpassed Kobe, he's better...as accomplishments go, Kobe getting two more rings without Shaq has him ahead of Lebron as well imo.

100% agree with all of this.

 

[Chocolatay]

Lebron is a great player. Don't get me wrong. But sometimes I feel like he just lacks this killer mentality that we saw in Kobe and Jordan. I never watched Jordan but when I watched Kobe I saw pure greatness. Lebron just does not give off the same vibe for me anyways.

 

[tlance]

Lebron is a great player. Don't get me wrong. But sometimes I feel like he just lacks this killer mentality that we saw in Kobe and Jordan. I never watched Jordan but when I watched Kobe I saw pure greatness. Lebron just does not give off the same vibe for me anyways.

Kobe and Jordan were pure scorers. LeBron isn't that at all. He is a facilitator who is also a good enough scorer to have won a scoring title.

No, he isn't a killer like those guys, but he is better than Kobe in just about every other aspect of the game.

 

[DHoey]

Five beats 3: MJ still ranks Kobe over LeBron

He claims that Kobe is higher on the all time list than Lebron because he has 5 rings while Lebron only has 3.

If he really believes that then Bill Russell is a better player than he is. Somehow I doubt he thinks so.

Maybe he thinks that they are close enough that he can use rings as a tie breaker..

 

[trojanfan12]

Five beats 3: MJ still ranks Kobe over LeBron

He claims that Kobe is higher on the all time list than Lebron because he has 5 rings while Lebron only has 3.

If he really believes that then Bill Russell is a better player than he is. Somehow I doubt he thinks so.

lol

The "Bill Russell Argument" has long since been debunked based on the league at the time.

Hilarious that some still try to use it.

What's next? The "Robert Horry Argument"?

 

[trojanfan12]

lol

The "Bill Russell Argument" has long since been debunked based on the league at the time.

Hilarious that some still try to use it.

What's next? The "Robert Horry Argument"?

Top 10 all-time, according to MJ logic:

1. Bill Russell
   
   
2. Sam Jones
   
   
3. Tom Heinsohn
   
   
4. K. C. Jones
   
   
5. Tom "Satch" Sanders
   
   
6. John Havlicek
   
   
7. Jim Loscutoff
   
   
8. Frank Ramsey
   
   
9. Robert Horry
   
   
10. Bob Cousy

That didn't take long.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Vote: Who ranks higher for you, Kobe or LeBron?

After over 33,000 votes, Kobe over Lebron leads the way with 59%

 

[flyerhawk]

lol

The "Bill Russell Argument" has long since been debunked based on the league at the time.

Hilarious that some still try to use it.

What's next? The "Robert Horry Argument"?

I don't think Russell is better than Jordan. He's not even in my top 5.

 

[tlance]

Vote: Who ranks higher for you, Kobe or LeBron?

After over 33,000 votes, Kobe over Lebron leads the way with 59%

Crazy.

I am glad most on here are smarter than that.

 

[DJ]

Never heard of #7