If the Big 10 is "weak" then what is the ACC?

[osubuckeye89]

This is true abd they aren't full strength. What if NW was "full strength", I could go out on a limb and say they would be ranked.

didnt you get the memo? injuries only count as an excuse if you are UGA or Florida

 

[tshirt]

I looked it up. Joel Stave. That is the Wisconsin QB. I thought it was Joe but wasn't sure.
as a recruit:
Rivals 2-star
Scout 2-star ( #111 ranked QB)
ESPN 0-star (#172 ranked QB)
only other offer was to Western Michigan

 

[rmilia1]

You think Iowa is as good as a full strength UGA team? I would go out on a limb and say the only people that will agree with you are B1G fans.

BYU lost to UVA, who might be the worst AQ team in the nation.

I think uga is better than iowa but its not by much frankly. Iowas 4 losses this year are to teams with a combined 3 losses and all the games were competitive. If I had to guess id go uga at home, iowa at home and a neutral field game would be uga by 4 or so. May get to see this game in a gator bowl this year

 

[osubuckeye89]

I looked it up. Joel Stave. That is the Wisconsin QB. I thought it was Joe but wasn't sure.
as a recruit:
Rivals 2-star
Scout 2-star ( #111 ranked QB)
ESPN 0-star (#172 ranked QB)
only other offer was to Western Michigan

There is no doubt that Boyd is a better Qb, but that does not automatically make them a better team.

 

[Jonny Valtimore]

I looked it up. Joel Stave. That is the Wisconsin QB. I thought it was Joe but wasn't sure.
as a recruit:
Rivals 2-star
Scout 2-star ( #111 ranked QB)
ESPN 0-star (#172 ranked QB)
only other offer was to Western Michigan

Yeah, Joel was a walk on. He's completing 60%+ of his passes and limits mistakes. That's all you need from him most of the time. Only a RS Sophomore.

 

[BigAppleBadger]

I looked it up. Joel Stave. That is the Wisconsin QB. I thought it was Joe but wasn't sure.
as a recruit:
Rivals 2-star
Scout 2-star ( #111 ranked QB)
ESPN 0-star (#172 ranked QB)
only other offer was to Western Michigan

Again, who cares? The recruiting rankings don't always get it right and they're incredibly circular. If a guy gets an offer from Alabama, they give him 4-5 stars.

Stave beat out Curt Phillips (4-star Rivals) and Bart Houston (3-star Rivals, 4-star Scout) in camp last year and this year.

Jared Abbrederis might be the best receiver in the B1G this year. He was a walk-on and not rated by the big recruiting sites.

JJ Watt? 2-star from Rivals and Scout.

 

[WABLTY]

Look, Stave is not a good quarterback. Wisconsin doesn't really need a good quarterback if they can ram the ball into you 50 times and pick up 250, 300 yards. They've got 2 or 3 guys on the OL and one running back that appear to be future NFL guys.

As for stars, Taylor Kelly was a 2 star. Mariota was a 3 star. They don't always matter, especially when it comes to a position like Quarterback, where so much of a player's competency is based on their football acumen.

 

[BigAppleBadger]

By no means do I think Stave is a very good QB. I'm just trying to point out the absurdity of basing any argument on recruiting ratings.

 

[ericd7633]

BYU lost to UVA in the middle of a monsoon.

Iowa has lost to MSU, NIU, Wisconsin, and Ohio State. Georgia would get killed by any of those teams besides NIU. You might be right that Georgia is more talented, but i'd wait until Iowa loses to somebody outside the top 15 before I acted so sure about it.

If Clemson loses to South Carolina, nothing suggests they are more deserving than us.

And UGA also has two wins FAR better than anything Iowa has done.

 

[WABLTY]

By no means do I think Stave is a very good QB. I'm just trying to point out the absurdity of basing any argument on recruiting ratings.

I'm agreeing with you. I just didn't click the quote button.

 

[rmilia1]

And UGA also has two wins FAR better than anything Iowa has done.

Says who? Iowa has a 17 point road win over an 8-2 team. You are assuming South Carolina is better than Minnesota based on what? Preseason rankings?

 

[rmilia1]

The usce team ive seen this year is good but not great. Lsu is good, not great. Uga has 2 nice wins both at home vs above average teams. Uga is probably better than iowa but like I said, its not by alot

 

[osubuckeye89]

By no means do I think Stave is a very good QB. I'm just trying to point out the absurdity of basing any argument on recruiting ratings.

since scout started in 02 these players have been a top 5 QB in their rankinggs


Ben Olson
Gavin Dickey
Kyle Wright
Tommy Grady
Rhett Bomar
Xavier Lee
Kirby Freeman
Jonathan Crompton
Josh Portis
Pat Devlin
Brent Schaeffer
Aaron Corp
Kodi Burns
Dayne Crist
Garrett Gilbert
Jake Heaps
Paul Jones
Jeff Driskel
Kiehl Frazier

recruit ranking is an inexact science

 

[Shanemansj13]

LOL@ Jeff Driskel

 

[osubuckeye89]

LOL@ Jeff Driskel

yes scout rated Driskell as the #1 QB of the 11 class.....ahead of Braxton Miller, Brett Hundley and Teddy Bridgewater

 

[FSUmanager]

Syracuse is 3-3 in the ACC. Northwestern is 0-6 in the B1G.

Northwestern killed Syracuse.

You mean before all of their injuries right? Do you think that NW would win by 21 now with all of their injuries?

Comparing the lower tier teams of each conference is not really smart. Especially since NW has had all of those injuries which most definitely have played a part of their losses since their 4-0 start.

 

[WABLTY]

must be BCS position jocking season if folks are arguing about which bad football teams are stronger.

Okay, I'm in. I need 'Just Beat Florida' ratings boost for victories over Utah, since Utah and Florida are basically the same team.

 

[Shanemansj13]

The only way I compare teams is if you go head-to-head, it is to hard to look at who they play and how much they beat them by, or conf record. Bc it is all about matchups and that is what bowl season is for.

 

[Edisto_Tiger]

 

[ericd7633]

Says who? Iowa has a 17 point road win over an 8-2 team. You are assuming South Carolina is better than Minnesota based on what? Preseason rankings?

Other than the fact they have better wins than Minnesota? What evidence is out there to suggest that Minnesota is better than South Carolina.