POLL How many more titles could Shaq and Kobe have won if they had stayed together?

[DJ]

Kobe thrived after Shaq left and Shaq had 3-4 more solid seasons after he left the Lakers.....

How many more titles could they have won IF Kobe became the #1 and Shaq the OG #2?

Vote and discuss.

 

[trojanfan12]

I voted 1. Shaq was starting to decline, he was able to get 1 more with D-Wade, then fell off a cliff. No reason to think it would have been different with Kobe.

 

[DJ]

I voted 1. Shaq was starting to decline, he was able to get 1 more with D-Wade, then fell off a cliff. No reason to think it would have been different with Kobe.

I went with 2.

Shaq had 4 more seasons of at least 17ppg and as a #2 to Kobe I think that would have been pretty solid and I think they would have found the role players they needed to surround them.

 

[broncosmitty]

Zero.

Phil was done. The run was over.

 

[DJ]

Zero.

Phil was done. The run was over.

BS.

Kobe was all of 26 after Shaq left and won a few with a guy like Pau. As he became a #1 you telling me he couldn't have won with Shaq as his #2 for 4 more years. Shaq was still posting solid numbers for a big guy with the Suns. They would have found the right guys to fit the offense and win a few more.

Convince me they couldn't!!!!

 

[Stakesarehigh]

1

But let it be written the Pistons broke their spirit

 

[DJ]

The season after Shaq left?

Kobe, Odom, and a bunch of nobodies won 45 games and lost in the first round against a loaded Suns team. Pushed them to 7 games.

 

[DJ]

1

But let it be written the Pistons broke their spirit

Kobe went rogue and gunner mentality vs the Pistons when Shaq was dominating Wallace.

 

[DJ]

1

But let it be written the Pistons broke their spirit

Feel free to vote.

TJ voted 1 and it's still on 1.

 

[broncosmitty]

BS.

Kobe was all of 26 after Shaq left and won a few with a guy like Pau. As he became a #1 you telling me he couldn't have won with Shaq as his #2 for 4 more years. Shaq was still posting solid numbers for a big guy with the Suns. They would have found the right guys to fit the offense and win a few more.

Convince me they couldn't!!!!

Well they lost to Detroit with Phil.

Why would I think they would’ve beat them the next year without him?

 

[DJ]

Well they lost to Detroit with Phil.

Why would I think they would’ve beat them the next year without him?

We're assuming Kobe would have transitioned to being the #1 option and Shaq deciding to take a backseat as a #2 in this scenario. I thought I had made that clear.

Plus, the Pistons lost to the Heat in the ECF the following year.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

We're assuming Kobe would have transitioned to being the #1 option and Shaq deciding to take a backseat as a #2 in this scenario. I thought I had made that clear.

Plus, the Pistons lost to the Heat in the ECF the following year.

False

They lost to the Spurs in game 7 of the finals. The following year was Miami

Unless you mean the following year after 2005. Lol

 

[DJ]

False

They lost to the Spurs in game 7 of the finals. The following year was Miami

Unless you mean the following year after 2005. Lol

My bad, I clicked the wrong year.....LOL.

 

[DJ]

Sometimes the pad is okay, sometimes I need the mouse to click better.

 

[broncosmitty]

We're assuming Kobe would have transitioned to being the #1 option and Shaq deciding to take a backseat as a #2 in this scenario. I thought I had made that clear.

Plus, the Pistons lost to the Heat in the ECF the following year.

No they didn’t.

Big Shot Bob took em down in Game 7 of the Finals.

The Lakers won 34 games that year. Since they lost Fischer, Shaq and Phil.

 

[broncosmitty]

False

They lost to the Spurs in game 7 of the finals. The following year was Miami

Unless you mean the following year after 2005. Lol

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

ALL OF THEM

 

[DJ]

ALL OF THEM

Pipe down, Sparky.

 

[MHSL82]

If they stayed together because they figured out how to play together I would say two or three. If they say together just because that was the only thing they could do, I would say one because of talent alone along with Phil Jackson. And when I say play together, I don’t mean something crazy like Kumbaya, I just mean something realistic but optimal. I think they could’ve been in Detroit if they were 100% healthy and played together better, including Malone.

 

[DJ]

If they stayed together because they figured out how to play together I would say two or three. If they say together just because that was the only thing they could do, I would say one because of talent alone along with Phil Jackson. And when I say play together, I don’t mean something crazy like Kumbaya, I just mean something realistic but optimal. I think they could’ve been in Detroit if they were 100% healthy and played together better, including Malone.

When creating this poll.....my original thought was 3 but I backed off to 2 because nothing is ever perfect and there would have been a transition on Kobe becoming the #1 option and Shaq sliding to the #2 but I think they could have figured it out......and they would have kept guys like Fox, Fisher, Payton and Malone (for 1 more season and he was decent when he was healthy) plus whatever free agents they needed to sign.....and Phil would have done his Yoda tricks to make it happen.