D2 2017 rookie draft

[tlance]

Honestly,

I think it still should snake. Non-snake drafts in fantasy are just unfair. Early first picks are already a pretty sizeable advantage for weaker teams.

Not sure if this was ever discussed or not.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Honestly,

I think it still should snake. Non-snake drafts in fantasy are just unfair. Early first picks are already a pretty sizeable advantage for weaker teams.

Not sure if this was ever discussed or not.

Can't remember myself and it's a good point, but a little late for this draft I think. Picks have been traded all over the place, based on how the draft was set up. We should address this ( unless it already has been) for next years draft, but let's do it after the draft.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Dynasties have always been straight drafts. So no it was not discussed, but we can bring it up after the draft is done for next year.

 

[TREFF]

Honestly,

I think it still should snake. Non-snake drafts in fantasy are just unfair. Early first picks are already a pretty sizeable advantage for weaker teams.

Not sure if this was ever discussed or not.

In a dynasty, as in real life, the draft isn't about fairness, its about encouraging parity. Worst to first so that bad teams don't stay bad simply because they never catch a break.

 

[tlance]

Dynasties have always been straight drafts. So no it was not discussed, but we can bring it up after the draft is done for next year.

I have played in dynasties before. Never had a draft that didn't snake.

 

[tlance]

In a dynasty, as in real life, the draft isn't about fairness, its about encouraging parity. Worst to first so that bad teams don't stay bad simply because they never catch a break.

And the opportunity to draft players like Fournette and McCaffery isn't a break?

IMO, a non snake draft incentives tanking far too much.

 

[tlance]

And before you all go nuts on the tanking thing, I am talking about legal tanking. Trading current assets for future assets.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I have played in dynasties before. Never had a draft that didn't snake.

I'm in 4 dynasty leagues counting this one. Not a one of them snake. I'm not against snaking, kind of like the idea, but let's get thru this draft before we tackle that.

 

[TREFF]

I have played in dynasties before. Never had a draft that didn't snake.

As have I, and never had a dynasty rookie draft that did snake

And the opportunity to draft players like Fournette and McCaffery isn't a break?

IMO, a non snake draft incentives tanking far too much.

The realistic value of most if the guys you'll get after round 1, whether you snake or not, is negligible at best. Hitting on anything after the first 8-10 picks is more about research, and luck than your draft spot, and if the draft order is set by last years finish, makes no sense to change it up halfway through

 

[ehb5]

And the opportunity to draft players like Fournette and McCaffery isn't a break?

IMO, a non snake draft incentives tanking far too much.

I prefer non snake (and have never done snake) but Im not sure it makes that much of a difference. Treff is right that the idea is to allow for parity. Its not good for the league if the worst teams cant improve and the best way to help them is through the draft. It does incentivize tanking but I actually think thats a very valid strategy in dynasty assuming you are active, and setting your best lineup each week (though that might be a whole other discussion).

All that said...Im not sure snaking really makes THAT much of a difference. It would only change the order of the 2nd and 4th rounds for us. In the 4th round the difference is almost definitely negligible and in the 2nd its not negligible but its also not huge.

 

[ehb5]

And before you all go nuts on the tanking thing, I am talking about legal tanking. Trading current assets for future assets.

Serious question though...is that bad? It hasnt really come up in this league (although I think I may have asked about it once before).

Personally, I dont see how theres anything wrong with trading current assets for future ones but Id be interested in everybodys thoughts.

 

[SmokingMonkey]

Mom and baby discharged tomorrow, so I'll be off work but checking in on phone, will be able to pick tonight if we get to #10

 

[obxyankeefan]

Serious question though...is that bad? It hasnt really come up in this league (although I think I may have asked about it once before).

Personally, I dont see how theres anything wrong with trading current assets for future ones but Id be interested in everybodys thoughts.

There is a big difference in trading away Lavon Bell for marginal players and future draft picks, then leaving him on your bench. Now selling off your entire team is a different matter.

 

[obxyankeefan]

And getting back on track

 

[TREFF]

Mom and baby discharged tomorrow, so I'll be off work but checking in on phone, will be able to pick tonight if we get to #10

Congrats Monkey!!

 

[TREFF]

Serious question though...is that bad? It hasnt really come up in this league (although I think I may have asked about it once before).

Personally, I dont see how theres anything wrong with trading current assets for future ones but Id be interested in everybodys thoughts.

I really don't. .i mean if the point of dynasty is to build a winning team both now and in the future. . if you just don't have the juice this year, the only right thing tho do both for you and the competitiveness of the league long term, is to do whatever you can to get better next year. .. so long as your not being a jack wang and starting Osweiler over Rodgers.. that screwes with league parity

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I really don't. .i mean if the point of dynasty is to build a winning team both now and in the future. . if you just don't have the juice this year, the only right thing tho do both for you and the competitiveness of the league long term, is to do whatever you can to get better next year. .. so long as your not being a jack wang and starting Osweiler over Rodgers.. that screwes with league parity

Right on. No point on holding onto a losing roster, build for the future if your roster doesn't cut it.

 

[Bandit]

Mom and baby discharged tomorrow, so I'll be off work but checking in on phone, will be able to pick tonight if we get to #10

Congratulations Monkey. Nothing in the world like it.

 

[Barilko]

Congrats Monkey

 

[Barilko]

and with the 4th pick "An Cat Dubh" who henceforth will be named "Barilko's Cat Dubh" (thus no more asking who the F An Cat is)

takes Corey Davis

@SteelersPride @obxyankeefan i guess OTC