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Cleveland already has broken OBJ

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OBJ lost his cool. He's lucky he didn't get thrown out. I'll tell you something about him. He'll never pick a fight with a kicking net again.


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Book has to be easy to get in his head. Was lucky he did not get a flag thrown for block in back at end of Landry long run.

That said, have to think even when he isn't making plays he opens things up a ton for the O.
 

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Talkin about when he took him to the ground? That was after OBJ threw a damn punch.

Players going at it in general. This is nothing new. Offsetting penalties...lets get back to the game.
 

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they didn't. one of them was standing right there letting them go at it when another ref ran in to try and break it up.

they both probably should have been kicked out of the game, but especially the choker.

That is more logical, both thrown out..kinda surprised that didn't happen but I like it. The NFL is too soft these days...stuff happens, flag em and lets move on.
 

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comparing OBJ to AB is beyond absurd. Hard to find many teammates of OBJ who will say bad things about him. Think the same is true of AB?

Eh, I don't remember anyone saying AB was a bad teammate when he was OBJ's age. As these guy's egos get bigger and bigger, their personalities change
 

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Eh, I don't remember anyone saying AB was a bad teammate when he was OBJ's age. As these guy's egos get bigger and bigger, their personalities change
Come on.....AB's a nut. Never mind all the off the field issues he has had. also had issues in college.
 

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Come on.....AB's a nut. Never mind all the off the field issues he has had. also had issues in college.

His NFL problems only started a couple years ago. I just personally feel like there is a good chance that obj Flames out hard in the NFL because he seems mentally weak to me.
 

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Book has to be easy to get in his head. Was lucky he did not get a flag thrown for block in back at end of Landry long run.

That said, have to think even when he isn't making plays he opens things up a ton for the O.

It's like we discussed last year Jarvis can do things when he isnt the focus of the defense. Can't wait to see how things open up with Callaway and Higgins out there. Ratley shouldn't be on the team much less playing meaningful minutes.
 

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His NFL problems only started a couple years ago. I just personally feel like there is a good chance that obj Flames out hard in the NFL because he seems mentally weak to me.
AB has had issues going back to college. You want to tell me OBJ has some issues, I agree, but he is not on AB's level.
 

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Well that lasted long.

 

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Well that lasted long.


That dumbass diva's under contract until 202_. Not sure how long his contract is. But I wouldn't be surprised if he starts pouting & goes into full bitch-mode now. If the Browns can get something good in return I say get his ass outta Cleveland.
 

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I hope OBJ losses another fight to a kicking net.

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That dumbass diva's under contract until 202_. Not sure how long his contract is. But I wouldn't be surprised if he starts pouting & goes into full bitch-mode now. If the Browns can get something good in return I say get his ass outta Cleveland.

I just think people are trying to get him to implode. He could easily melt down in the games and he's been pretty straight.

If he wants to get moved he would still have a lot of value
 

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Bud, shut up. Browns could easily be a playoff team next year. You could still be stuck on the Giants which are a fucking hopeless organization.

The lack of self-awareness on that is amazing.
 

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I just think people are trying to get him to implode. He could easily melt down in the games and he's been pretty straight.

If he wants to get moved he would still have a lot of value

He doesn't need any help imploding. And judging by Face posted seems like he wants out. Maybe things would be a little better right now had he not missed OTA's, training camp & the preseason?

Him & Mayfield have been off all year. And I blame that on OBJ. He's more talented than Landry (who was at OTA's, training camp & preseason) yet JL's having the better year.
 

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He doesn't need any help imploding. And judging by Face posted seems like he wants out. Maybe things would be a little better right now had he not missed OTA's, training camp & the preseason?

Him & Mayfield have been off all year. And I blame that on OBJ. He's more talented than Landry (who was at OTA's, training camp & preseason) yet JL's having the better year.

Jarvis is having a better year and he definitely has better chemistry with Baker but why add a guy and not have him practice? A coach with any pull wouldn't have allowed that shit.

I blame some on OBJ but some is also a lack of familiarity. He's only ever really played with Eli.
 

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I just think people are trying to get him to implode. He could easily melt down in the games and he's been pretty straight.

If he wants to get moved he would still have a lot of value
Loads of value. Still a very lucrative contract. The remainder of his contract is 4yrs, and roughly $15m per year. In terms of contracts league-wide on yearly basis, that's not even top 10 money at the position. He'd have a hell of a market if CLE wants to trade him.

Browns of course have to eat the $20m signing bonus... So essentially if they trade him they paid OBJ $37m to play 1 season for them. Ouch.
 

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Jarvis is having a better year and he definitely has better chemistry with Baker but why add a guy and not have him practice? A coach with any pull wouldn't have allowed that shit.
 

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Loads of value. Still a very lucrative contract. The remainder of his contract is 4yrs, and roughly $15m per year. In terms of contracts league-wide on yearly basis, that's not even top 10 money at the position. He'd have a hell of a market if CLE wants to trade him.

Browns of course have to eat the $20m signing bonus... So essentially if they trade him they paid OBJ $37m to play 1 season for them. Ouch.

As long as they moved him for a very high draft pick or a younger player on a good deal it would kind of wash out
 

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