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Carson Palmer, Games Best, MVP of the league

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Per Pro Football Focus

When PFF put Carson Palmer in our mid-season All-Pro team it was met with plenty of pushback from Tom Brady supporters who believed Brady to be the only correct name for that spot. Heading into this week Brady and Palmer were actually even with a 96.8 grade in our system, tied for best in the league, so we were literally splitting two players with nothing between them.

Our analysts eventually decided that what Palmer was doing within the Arizona Cardinals’ offense was marginally more impressive than what Brady was doing within the Patriots’, and so he earned the spot.

This week saw some evidence to back that up. Palmer made some of the most spectacular throws of the week despite heavy and sustained pressure by the Seahawks, and cemented his place as the best quarterback in the NFL this season by leading Arizona to a critical division road victory.

Brady was far from poor this week, and did mount a game-winning drive to topple the Giants, but did so only after gift-wrapping the game to them by airmailing a horrendous pass straight to Giants rookie safety Landon Collins, who dropped it.

This isn’t to knock Brady, but merely to illustrate that he too has poor passes that people were using to slight Palmer, it’s just that so far this season his have yet to cost the team through the ineptitude of opposition players. If Collins hangs on to that ball, the Patriots lose the game because of a Brady mistake — much like happened to Palmer against the Steelers earlier in the year.

But let’s focus on Palmer and the job he is doing within one of the league’s most demanding offenses. Arizona head coach Bruce Arians likes to attack deep down the field, which makes his system a rare throwback in a league that is becoming ever more horizontal when it comes to stretching a defense. Brady averages 7.7 yards down the field with every pass attempt. The league average depth of target is 8.7. Palmer’s average depth of target is a league-leading 11.5 yards.

He is attacking the intermediate and deep levels of the defense with an unheard-of efficiency, despite an offensive line that sees him pressured on 42.2 percent of his dropbacks – the third-most in the NFL.

On passes that travel 10-plus yards from the line of scrimmage, Palmer is completing 61.8 percent of his passes for a passer rating of 120.6 on the season. Against Seattle, he was 14 of 18 on those plays. These are the throws with the tightest windows and are the most difficult to hit regularly.

Palmer was our third-highest-graded quarterback of the week, and the only thing holding him back from another excellent grade was two fumbles, both of which were recovered by Seattle and showed poor ball security by Palmer. With turnovers so important in determining the victor of any game, PFF’s system is hard on players that put the ball on the ground, and those plays often get forgotten when evaluating quarterback performance.

Part of being a great quarterback is understanding when a play is dead and going into damage limitation mode. Being sacked is bad, but coughing the ball up in that sack and handing it to the opposition in the shadow of your goal line is so much worse.

Palmer’s ball security hurt his team, but both fumbles came after catastrophic breakdowns in the Cardinals’ protection, something he has been dealing with all season.

What makes both Brady’s and Carson Palmer’s MVP credentials so strong are the holes they are papering over around them. Both players are masking deficiencies on their offensive lines via different methods, and while Brady’s role might be producing more gaudy statistics for him personally, Palmer’s role is arguably a tougher one to execute with such incredible efficiency.

Right now, Palmer is the best quarterback in the NFL.




Why Carson Palmer is No. 1 QB in NFL
 

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palmers clearly in the race as he is a good thrower of the football.
 

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Right now, Palmer is the best quarterback in the NFL.
 

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I even like Brady better than this piece of crap
 

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I have to give it to Brady. His team is falling apart around him and they keep winning, mostly because of him. This Amandola thing could end up being the proverbial straw though.
I really do like seeing the resurgence of Palmer though. He should be a shoe in for the Come back player of the year.
 

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The MVP debate is rather amusing. It's OK for exciting conversation about who is doing great things for their team, etc., but I find it difficult to get engaged in such tepid endeavor to demonstrate who's most valuable. For all I care, give the award to Tony Romo who hasn't played a game for two months.
 

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I have to give it to Brady. His team is falling apart around him and they keep winning, mostly because of him. This Amandola thing could end up being the proverbial straw though.
I really do like seeing the resurgence of Palmer though. He should be a shoe in for the Come back player of the year.
You mean Edelman? Or Amendola replacing him?
 

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They don't give out awards after week 10, let's play all 16 games then get back to this discussion.

That being said, Palmer has to be in the discussion for sure. He's been tremendous.
 

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The MVP debate is rather amusing. It's OK for exciting conversation about who is doing great things for their team, etc., but I find it difficult to get engaged in such tepid endeavor to demonstrate who's most valuable. For all I care, give the award to Tony Romo who hasn't played a game for two months.
I absolutely agree. Great for shits and giggles and that's about it.
 

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No. He almost handed the Seahawks the game with back to back fumbles inside their red zone. He's good but not Brady, Rodgers good. I love the Cards as a team and I'm not knocking Palmer but he is NOT great.
 

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No. He almost handed the Seahawks the game with back to back fumbles inside their red zone. He's good but not Brady, Rodgers good. I love the Cards as a team and I'm not knocking Palmer but he is NOT great.
He is an MVP candidate. No disputing that.

BTW - Do you think those fumbles had anything to do with the O-Line completely shitting the bed? The whole right side missed their assignments on both those plays. If anything, Palmer should have had both hands on the ball, but he literally had one second before the defense was on him.
 

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No. He almost handed the Seahawks the game with back to back fumbles inside their red zone. He's good but not Brady, Rodgers good. I love the Cards as a team and I'm not knocking Palmer but he is NOT great.
Weren't you the guy trying to convince Card fans they should have tried to sign McNabb when they were starting Warner?
 

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Thank you for highlighting the parts about the Patriots....very helpful. Thanks again.
 
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