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[offshore1509]

If the OU-Bama game comes down to the kicking game (FGs) edge goes to OU. That's about the only edge OU has though.

So, your saying there's a chance?

 

[KansasSooner]

So, your saying there's a chance?

Depends on the passing game. Statistically OU and Bama both are very close in the running game, but the passing game belongs to Bama.

 

[offshore1509]

Depends on the passing game. Statistically OU and Bama both are very close in the running game, but the passing game belongs to Bama.

That has a lot to do with play calling. OU has the receivers if Heuple will jet use them.

 

[Codaxx]

Depends on the passing game. Statistically OU and Bama both are very close in the running game, but the passing game belongs to Bama.

Rushing S&p:

OU: 30th
Bama 10th

On defense
Bama: #2
OU: #68

that is brutal

 

[offshore1509]

Rushing S&p:

OU: 30th
Bama 10th

On defense
Bama: #2
OU: #68

that is brutal

Those stats might mean more if they both played the same teams.

 

[KansasSooner]

Rushing S&p:

OU: 30th
Bama 10th

On defense
Bama: #2
OU: #68

that is brutal

What are you looking at?

Rushing Defense:
Bama: 11th 108 yd/game
OU: 27th 138 yd/game

Not that much difference really.

Rushing Offense:
Bama: 21st 212 yd/game
OU: 18th 235 yd/game

Again not much difference.

But passing, OU really doesn't come close.

 

[Codaxx]

What are you looking at?

Rushing Defense:
Bama: 11th 108 yd/game
OU: 27th 138 yd/game

Not that much difference really.

Rushing Offense:
Bama: 21st 212 yd/game
OU: 18th 235 yd/game

Again not much difference.

But passing, OU really doesn't come close.

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2013 NCAA S&P+ RATINGS, DEFENSE

adjusts for SOS. I think using the eye test you would probably agree more with the S&P numbers.

 

[Wild Turkey]

So, your saying there's a chance?

LMAO! The Bama vs Ou threads are going to epic if this is how we are starting!

 

[7Samurai13]

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2013 NCAA S&P+ RATINGS, DEFENSE

adjusts for SOS. I think using the eye test you would probably agree more with the S&P numbers.

Hey Michigan fans, according to this you have a top 50 defense. It is not as bad as you thought.

 

[offshore1509]

LMAO! The Bama vs Ou threads are going to epic if this is how we are starting!

What else am I going to say?

 

[KansasSooner]

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2013 NCAA S&P+ RATINGS, DEFENSE

adjusts for SOS. I think using the eye test you would probably agree more with the S&P numbers.

If you say so. But whose SOS formula are they using, there are only about 50 of them in existence. That being said, 10-2 doesn't happen by accident, it'll be closer than most think in my opinion.

 

[Wild Turkey]

What else am I going to say?

I'd just let it slide instead you opened yourself up to Big 12 comparisons, BCS performance comparisons and then head to head like what Texas did to you and what Ole Miss did to Texas.

The only reason there aren't five posts on the above is that this thread isn't on their radar right now. Your biggest problem for this bowl season is you have both Alabama and Texas fans (two of the biggest represented fan bases on these bds and two of the most obnoxious) that are going to be all over this game. I wouldn't play into their hands you have to sit back and let them stick their foot in their mouth first.

 

[offshore1509]

If you say so. But whose SOS formula are they using, there are only about 50 of them in existence. That being said, 10-2 doesn't happen by accident, it'll be closer than most think in my opinion.

SOS based on inflated rankings.

 

[Codaxx]

If you say so. But whose SOS formula are they using, there are only about 50 of them in existence. That being said, 10-2 doesn't happen by accident, it'll be closer than most think in my opinion.

Opponent adjustments: Success Rate and PPP combine to form S&P, an OPS-like measure for football. Then each team's S&P output for a given category (Rushing/Passing on either Standard Downs or Passing Downs) is compared to the expected output based upon their opponents and their opponents' opponents. This is a schedule-based adjustment designed to reward tougher schedules and punish weaker ones.

Not quite SOS, I used that to simplify it.

 

[offshore1509]

Opponent adjustments: Success Rate and PPP combine to form S&P, an OPS-like measure for football. Then each team's S&P output for a given category (Rushing/Passing on either Standard Downs or Passing Downs) is compared to the expected output based upon their opponents and their opponents' opponents. This is a schedule-based adjustment designed to reward tougher schedules and punish weaker ones.

Not quite SOS, I used that to simplify it.

I'm sure an opponent's ranking gets entered in there somewhere.

 

[KansasSooner]

Opponent adjustments: Success Rate and PPP combine to form S&P, an OPS-like measure for football. Then each team's S&P output for a given category (Rushing/Passing on either Standard Downs or Passing Downs) is compared to the expected output based upon their opponents and their opponents' opponents. This is a schedule-based adjustment designed to reward tougher schedules and punish weaker ones.

Not quite SOS, I used that to simplify it.

So playing Ga. State was tougher than someone on OU's schedule? Please, KU would win that game.

 

[Codaxx]

So playing Ga. State was tougher than someone on OU's schedule? Please, KU would win that game.

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i am not sure how that equates to the stats and is remotely relative.

 

[Codaxx]

I'm sure an opponent's ranking gets entered in there somewhere.

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it does not. Basically opponent X's offense does 5 yards per carry on the yr. They do 4 vs you, so you get a positive data pt. If opponent Y averages 2.5 and you give up 3, you get a negative. Nothing to do with rankings. Keep in mind I simplifying this.

 

[offshore1509]

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it does not. Basically opponent X's offense does 5 yards per carry on the yr. They do 4 vs you, so you get a positive data pt. If opponent Y averages 2.5 and you give up 3, you get a negative. Nothing to do with rankings. Keep in mind I simplifying this.

The combined record of Bama opponents 73--70

The combined record of OU's opponents 74--72

 

[Codaxx]

The combined record of Bama opponents 73--70

The combined record of OU's opponents 74--72

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you are missing the pt. That is not what it measures. It compares how your defense did vs your opponents offense based on your opponents success vs the rest of their schedule. Let me try to explain

you play Team A.. Team A went for 5 yds a carry vs Team B. Team B help all there opponents to 4 yards, except Team A. That gives Team A a higher ranking in offensive rushing S&P. If you hold Team A to 3 yards it would be deemed exceptional rush defense. This comparison goes on through every game you play, all of your opponents games, and all of your opponents opponents games. It is not adjusted for a Team with the 5th best SOS, but the results of their per play stats. It is not subjective. It is not perfect, but it is not what you think it is when you bring up SOS.