AP All-Pro Team

[SU Nittany Tide]

I just looked this up and you’re right. I thought I read it somewhere. In defense of Brady he deserves more then two MVP awards in his career cause he’s extraordinary but his wasn’t the best QB in the NFL this year.

Actually Brady wasn't putting up MVP numbers at all when the team won their first three super bowls. It wasn't until the year moss came to town that the team really turned into an offensive power house and he has put up big numbers ever since.

 

[soxfan1468927]

True, a guy that can be relied on every game is more valuable than a guy that cant

Brady First team

LMAO

Who would you have?

Wentz obviously

 

[Rock Strongo]

Actually Brady wasn't putting up MVP numbers at all when the team won their first three super bowls. It wasn't until the year moss came to town that the team really turned into an offensive power house and he has put up big numbers ever since.

actually...well, us fans know...but it wasnt "moss coming to town".

it was someone else, but it coincided nicely and certainly helped. moss is long long gone, yet the numbers remain....because it wasnt "moss coming to town".

 

[Rock Strongo]

actually...well, us fans know...but it wasnt "moss coming to town".

it was someone else, but it coincided nicely and certainly helped. moss is long long gone, yet the numbers remain....because it wasnt "moss coming to town".

@DirtDirtDirt

you're smarter than this. who showed up here in 06 on the staff, and got the keys in 07?

 

[Rock Strongo]

jesus do people watch football?

 

[SU Nittany Tide]

actually...well, us fans know...but it wasnt "moss coming to town".

it was someone else, but it coincided nicely and certainly helped. moss is long long gone, yet the numbers remain....because it wasnt "moss coming to town".

Obviously Moss is long gone. That was the year it started. And as I said, he has put up numbers even since. Not sure what you are missing there.

 

[soxfan1468927]

Actually Brady wasn't putting up MVP numbers at all when the team won their first three super bowls. It wasn't until the year moss came to town that the team really turned into an offensive power house and he has put up big numbers ever since.

He was 3rd in MVP voting in 2003. They missed the playoffs in 2002, but Brady led the league in TD passes and was 6th in yards. 2005 he led in yards and was 3rd in TD passes, and was 3rd in MVP that year as well. All this before Moss

 

[SU Nittany Tide]

show me the stats to back that up

yards, TD's, YPC, etc

go

mention games played as well, as it is a factor.

Ah. Games played matters now. It didn't for QB. Same TD's. Similar yards. More receptions.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Obviously Moss is long gone. That was the year it started. And as I said, he has put up numbers even since. Not sure what you are missing there.

the answer isnt moss. he came on around the same time...as...josh mcdaniels, who...as us fans know, was a faux OC in 2006. he had the title, but wasnt calling all the plays. it was a test run for him.

it was mcdaniels who actually approached bill about moss, as mcdaniels said a guy like that would be perfect for the offense he was designing.

again, mcdaniels is still here...and moss isnt.

so they key has always been mcdaniels.

 

[SU Nittany Tide]

the answer isnt moss. he came on around the same time...as...josh mcdaniels, who...as us fans know, was a faux OC in 2006. he had the title, but wasnt calling all the plays. it was a test run for him.

it was mcdaniels who actually approached bill about moss, as mcdaniels said a guy like that would be perfect for the offense he was designing.

again, mcdaniels is still here...and moss isnt.

so they key has always been mcdaniels.

Ok? You are acting as though I am giving Moss all the credit for the last 10 years or something.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Ok? You are acting as though I am giving Moss all the credit for the last 10 years or something.

you said it started with moss.

it didnt. it started with mcdaniels being promoted for a dry run in 06.

 

[Rock Strongo]

brady had his first series of 4 TD games in 2006.
brady had 3, 4 TD games prior to 2006...01, 02, 03...one each. then 2 straight years with none. he had 2 alone in 2006 under mcdaniels. that was the start.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

brady had his first series of 4 TD games in 2006.
brady had 3, 4 TD games prior to 2006...01, 02, 03...one each. then 2 straight years with none. he had 2 alone in 2006 under mcdaniels. that was the start.

Don't know if you've mentioned it already but Gronk maxed out on his bonuses after making All Pro.

A $10.75 million award.

 

[BottleWalk]

I don't understand how bell is on both the first and the second team.....

There are other backs out there who could be put on there, notably Melvin gordon or Mark Ingram. I guess Kareem. Hunt as well

But i guess two Leveon Bells are better than one Leveon Bell plus a Gordon or an Ingram so there's that.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Don't know if you've mentioned it already but Gronk maxed out on his bonuses after making All Pro.

A $10.75 million award.

saw that

gronks finished huh?

 

[Hank Kingsley]

saw that

gronks finished huh?

Buns up kneeling.....

 

[jarntt]

Notice how the Eagles can’t run the ball without Wentz and how Foles is under nonstop pressure. Big swing and a miss there Jarntt.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the swing and miss was you missing the point...

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

I mean the only game that Blair Walsh missed a kick that cost them the playoffs was the 52 yarder he missed against Atlanta. And even that one would have only gotten them to OT.

Well, the miss against the Cards would've been 10-6 and then he missed 3 f'ing field goals when they lost to Washington 17-14.... so I mean, good chance 11-5, and then of course Atlanta would've only been a tie.

Completely Carroll/Schneider's fault because they went cheap and didn't re-sign Haushcka who was always clutch and decent for Seattle. He was a top 10 in FG % with 5/7 from 50+

 

[Battlelyon]

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[PhoenixEagles1]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the swing and miss was you missing the point...

Your point was "Carson Wentz is only good because of his OLine" because some Eagle fans said last year that Dak was only good because of his OLine. Unfortunately you are completely wrong and trying to turn into PDay and Manster with your baiting. Youre better then this JARNTT