Anyone else think Tiger is faking it?

[Wazmankg]

Not buying it...too many low numbers were shot on Sunday man for him to be over par....that tells you the course was there for the taking...he's always been able to throw darts, but can't make the critical putts when they count...he choked imo.


Sometimes the putts just stop falling. If you play golf at a high level, you understand this. Sergio (like I said before) was hitting good shots and had some very good shots into greens. I think he was 80% overall for hitting greens for the tournament. But every good golfer has streaks. Good and bad. Sergio just simply stopped making putts. He was winning from day 1 and because he finished 2nd he choked? LOL C'mon man, if would have finished 10th - that would have been a choke job. Rory came out blazing and Sergio lost his putting stroke.


IT happens.

When putts "just stop falling" repeatedly on Sundays, when the pressure is applied and most of the field plays better than you that's called choking. In fact it's basically the definition of choking. That's just the way it works. Furyk has the same problem. Great ball striker but when the pressure is on on Sundays all of the sudden "the putts stop falling".

 

[Wazmankg]

I think Tiger tweaked his back. He was 15 back to start the round. It's not as if he was playing well to that point. Why would he even start his round Sunday if he was just going to bail due to poor play ? That said, if he was 1 back when he tweaked it, he probably would have gutted it out.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

I think Tiger tweaked his back. He was 15 back to start the round. It's not as if he was playing well to that point. Why would he even start his round Sunday if he was just going to bail due to poor play ? That said, if he was 1 back when he tweaked it, he probably would have gutted it out.

I think it is actual just the opposite. Not sure if he faked anything in the past, but I certainly don't think he did in this case. As a matter of fact - he should have walked off after the 2nd hole. It appears that - against his own & others advice - he tried to tough it out & perhaps show that he wasn't a quitter. Bad move.

Do you really believe that he deliberately made some of those awful tee shots given his ego? Cmon.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

They don't do that because of their love of Tiger. It is because he still brings in the viewers - love it or not & they have not found anyone who remotely takes his place in terms of ratings. I love watching Rory, Bubba, Phil, Fowler & several of the others. However - like most on this board I am more of a diehard. We will watch regardless.

They are more worried about the fringe viewer. Perhaps someone will take Tiger's place in that respect in the future, but it ain't happening now & it is hitting these folks in the wallet. This has even been a good thing for diehards since it has resulted in golf being on TV much more than in the past.

Spieth, Rory, Bubba, Ulien, Koepka, etc., ...there are some great youg players on the horizon, but we're talking about replacing an icon here...love him or hate him...we won't see that again in our life times.

The problem the networks are having is just as you mentioned...they bucked up for a new TV contract based on a Tiger that was still a dominant player and they hedged that he would continue to be THAT guy for the duration of this TV deal...not.

Now, they're gasping for air....they can't let Tiger be what he is...an aging superstar that's not the same player he was 3 or 4 years ago.

Pro golf will be fine once Tiger is done, but I have to think the sport will have to contract a bit to be viable...the purses, # of events imo will have to comeback to earth because they're not going to get that kind of money they are now on the next TV deal.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

When putts "just stop falling" repeatedly on Sundays, when the pressure is applied and most of the field plays better than you that's called choking. In fact it's basically the definition of choking. That's just the way it works. Furyk has the same problem. Great ball striker but when the pressure is on on Sundays all of the sudden "the putts stop falling".

Agreed, we're much quicker to call it a choke when the name is not well known...I will say Jim played a solid final round @ the Canadian Open...he didn't close it out, and I'm sure nerves or the thought of his past failures were on his mind, but he played a helluva drive on the 72nd, and an even better approach, made a good putt, just a bit too strong to take the break.

 

[R.J. MacReady]

It's the ways this goes down that I find so suspicious. And this is the 3rd time it has gone down this way. Tiger gets a stealth injury. There is no evidence that he hurts himself when "he says" he actually did. You look at that bunker shot ...No sign at all that he hurts himself.

But when does comes up limp holes later ..he conveniently says I hurt myself holes before and gets a pass on the bad shots. Then everybody says "Oh that's way he was playing so bad" It's pure genius.

And I have yet to hear any media types ask, how can he still have back spasms when the surgery was to correct this symptom. If he is still having them then the surgery did not take ..no?

How can the conclusion not be that he needs another surgery?

 

[SoCalWizFan]

It's the ways this goes down that I find so suspicious. And this is the 3rd time it has gone down this way. Tiger gets a stealth injury. There is no evidence that he hurts himself when "he says" he actually did. You look at that bunker shot ...No sign at all that he hurts himself.

But when does comes up limp holes later ..he conveniently says I hurt myself holes before and gets a pass on the bad shots. Then everybody says "Oh that's way he was playing so bad" It's pure genius.

And I have yet to hear any media types ask, how can he still have back spasms when the surgery was to correct this symptom. If he is still having them then the surgery did not take ..no?

How can the conclusion not be that he needs another surgery?

Could be in terms of the surgery - who knows. As for the pt in your second paragraph - don't buy it. It would be one thing if these were your typical bad shots (say a longer shot hit out of bounds) but when have you ever seen Tiger Woods miss a standard par 3 green by 30-40 yards? He also look extremely uncomfortable in the process. Again - I don't think that his ego would allow him to deliberately look that bad & several players commented that they have never seen that bad of shots from him.

I also didn't realize that back surgery was a complete insurance policy against future damage. It appears that if Tiger is going to continue playing he is going to need to gear it down a bit (just like aging players in all sports).

 

[HizzleRocker]

I don't think he is faking it. However, I do think his swing still looks like shit. Don't know how in the world he thinks he is ever going to drive the ball without a spine angle and while keeping all that weight on his left side. It's completely counter productive. Even his putting looks like shit now. He used to stand tall over putts, with his knees very straight, and had a good aggressive tempo. Know foley has him almost knocking knees, sitting down over it like he's about to take a crap, and trying to help the ball go in the hole.

Wtf?

 

[gohusk]

Tiger's made the vast majority of his money by being a walking billboard and he's smart enough to realize that his sponsors want him out there no matter how poorly he's playing.

 

[Thruthefog]

Of course he's faking it. So what? Isn't having sex with hookers more fun than playing golf when you're playing poorly?

 

[Sid Mead]

I don't understand the Lindsay Vonn thing other than she's white and he probably thinks that makes him look good. I don't think she's worth walking across the street for

Only real reason that he's with Lindsay is that he's trying hard to find a replacement for his ex wife Elin Nordegren. They're both quite attractive & both very white.

 

[Wazmankg]

I think Tiger tweaked his back. He was 15 back to start the round. It's not as if he was playing well to that point. Why would he even start his round Sunday if he was just going to bail due to poor play ? That said, if he was 1 back when he tweaked it, he probably would have gutted it out.

I think it is actual just the opposite. Not sure if he faked anything in the past, but I certainly don't think he did in this case. As a matter of fact - he should have walked off after the 2nd hole. It appears that - against his own & others advice - he tried to tough it out & perhaps show that he wasn't a quitter. Bad move.

Do you really believe that he deliberately made some of those awful tee shots given his ego? Cmon.

I included my post with your reply to it because I'm totally confused by your reply. You think "it is just the opposite". What is this "it" you're referring to ? I don't think he was faking it either. In fact I posted "I think he tweaked his back", meaning I think he legitimately hurt his back. Where do you get that I think he hit bad drives on purpose ? Again I think he legitimately hurt his back. But if he was 1 back heading to the back 9 he would have continued on. Remember this is a guy who won a US Open on basically 1 leg. But he was 18 back, so he said "Screw it. I'm hurt. That's enough".

 

[Wazmankg]

It's the ways this goes down that I find so suspicious. And this is the 3rd time it has gone down this way. Tiger gets a stealth injury. There is no evidence that he hurts himself when "he says" he actually did. You look at that bunker shot ...No sign at all that he hurts himself.

But when does comes up limp holes later ..he conveniently says I hurt myself holes before and gets a pass on the bad shots. Then everybody says "Oh that's way he was playing so bad" It's pure genius.

And I have yet to hear any media types ask, how can he still have back spasms when the surgery was to correct this symptom. If he is still having them then the surgery did not take ..no?

How can the conclusion not be that he needs another surgery?

Maybe you missed it but Tiger has been playing poorly ever since he came back from surgery (probably too soon) ... over a month ago. There was nothing extraordinary about Tiger's poor play Sunday. It's what he's been doing lately. He came back much sooner than originally expected so a physical setback like this really isn't surprising, nor suspicious. He was 18 back when he walked off.... 16 of that came before he hurt his back. Your theory makes no sense.

 

[WILD FAN]

At this week's PGA Championship at Valhalla

 

[SJ76]

After starting with a 3 shot lead, he shot +1 on Sunday when a good bit of the field when low & he finished 2nd....regardless of the start Rory shot 66, not a super low round and he won by 2.



So Sergio should win a PGA tour event with a stacked field WIRE to WIRE, with the #1 player in the world coming out breathing like a dragon on Sunday? After he shoots 61,67,68-?? Please. You must be a high handicapper-I'm guessing a 15 maybe. What you don't understand is NO ONE besides maybe Rory can win right now WIRE to WIRE. And that's exactly who Sergio lost to. He didn't choke, he got beat by a player that's on fire right now. Shoulda coulda, the man played well and stopped making putts on day 4. You can't make putts 24/7 man. It's not sega golf.



5 shot swing...was he rattled by Rory's start? hitting the lady's ring? idk...This wasn't Norman @ Augusta, but a player of Sergio's caliber should finish that tourney off. Same with Furyk the week prior but at least Jim shot under par in the final round and was just beaten by a lower number...he didn't help him.


Of course he was thinking about Rory's start. Who wouldn't? LOL Sergio should finish it off? LMAO Against the best and hottest player in the world? C'mon man. You ever play Firestone? Do you know how good -13 under is? My goodness.


Did anyone in that tournament even shoot 63 last week? Sergio went deep. Like close to 59 deep on a bad ass course. You can't maintain that level, I don't care how good you are at SEGA golf. haha

 

[SJ76]

Everyone list their handicaps so I know who I'm talkin too.

 

[SJ76]

I think it is actual just the opposite. Not sure if he faked anything in the past, but I certainly don't think he did in this case. As a matter of fact - he should have walked off after the 2nd hole. It appears that - against his own & others advice - he tried to tough it out & perhaps show that he wasn't a quitter. Bad move.

Do you really believe that he deliberately made some of those awful tee shots given his ego? Cmon.


I think he's swinging so out of his shoes, that yes he caught that shot thin on the par 3.. Looked stupid as hell, and pulled up lame. That's exactly what he did. He's not the old Tiger and he can't take it. Did you see how hard he was swinging? That swing is so out of control and so hard to time, that you are going to hit thin shots.


Watch dude, he's gonna play this week at the PGA championship. And he's gonna act and hold his and get sympathy, maybe make the cut.
Why? I have no flipping clue.

 

[SJ76]

I also know Dustin Johnson is a coke head and has been for years. What do you think happened to Kevin Na? There's a crew of them that have been doing blow for sometime. How they do blow, get no sleep and play good in Dustin's case.. I've no flipping clue.

 

[SJ76]

Handicap: 1 - I've played once in 2 months and I need a shot from the sandbaggers
best round: 63 course record
experience: played professional for 4 years, was a club pro at some sweet tracks for 5
favorite course: Ocean Hammock - south of Jacksonville, FL


irons: 2012 titleist MB chrome blades-fuking sweet
woods: 2012 titeist driver 9.5, 10 year old steelhead III 3 wood, titleist 17 degree rescue
wedges: 58 - titleist SM5, 52 titleist rusty special "dart thrower"
putter: 35" odessy tri-hot




I live in Dallas let me know if you want some, I need to start playing.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

I included my post with your reply to it because I'm totally confused by your reply. You think "it is just the opposite". What is this "it" you're referring to ? I don't think he was faking it either. In fact I posted "I think he tweaked his back", meaning I think he legitimately hurt his back. Where do you get that I think he hit bad drives on purpose ? Again I think he legitimately hurt his back. But if he was 1 back heading to the back 9 he would have continued on. Remember this is a guy who won a US Open on basically 1 leg. But he was 18 back, so he said "Screw it. I'm hurt. That's enough".

Fair enough. I am basically saying that yes he did injure himself on the 2nd hole. You don't need to be limping or screaming to prove that you are hurt at that point. My point is that he was hurt & he continues to try to act tough when he should have simply packed it in. What exactly was the pt of him playing past this pt? Would it be to impress the media, the fans & the non-fans? Why? As indicated numerous times in the media & in forums such as this one people are going to have the same opinions regardless.

He probably needs to shut it down for a while, perhaps modify the swing to be less violent & use common sense moving forward (may be too much to ask). Beyond simply doing well at golf who wants to go through life with numerous injuries that will result in a lesser quality of life? Oh well - we will see.