2024 NFL draft - 1st round Packers should select what position?

[Tainthappening]

Draft getting close, most mocks I see they have Packers selecting OL or DB.

 

[RP-29]

Mock draft philosophy is to draft for "team need". The Packers philosophy is to compile a draft board and stick to it. If there happens to be a "tie in ratings", player position is a tie breaker. Therefore, I think they choose the best player on their board regardless of position (but the pick could be one of those positions).

Personally, I'm never gonna scoff at drafting defensive line in the first round - that's where the majority of the best DL players come from. The vast majority of Packers OL greats have come in later rounds so I don't think using a first on OL is necessary, but I wouldn't hate it at 25. I'd be cool with getting one of the highest rated DBs in the draft at 25.

I usually don't hate trading down, but I still have a bad taste in my mouth from the 2017 draft.

 

[Tainthappening]

Mock draft philosophy is to draft for "team need". The Packers philosophy is to compile a draft board and stick to it. If there happens to be a "tie in ratings", player position is a tie breaker. Therefore, I think they choose the best player on their board regardless of position (but the pick could be one of those positions).

Personally, I'm never gonna scoff at drafting defensive line in the first round - that's where the majority of the best DL players come from. The vast majority of Packers OL greats have come in later rounds so I don't think using a first on OL is necessary, but I wouldn't hate it at 25. I'd be cool with getting one of the highest rated DBs in the draft at 25.

I usually don't hate trading down, but I still have a bad taste in my mouth from the 2017 draft.

I assume (listening to Packers podcasts... I do not follow college football) the Packers first draft pick if stick at #25 or move up a few spots for someone will be one of the following:

OL - Fautanu, Latham, Mims, Barton, Guyton
DL - Murphy, Newton, D. Robinson
DB - DeJean, Wiggins, Kool-Aid

If Packers are really sold on R. Walker maybe they wait a bit longer to draft OL... but they lost Runyon and Nijman and I think they will want to address OL depth one of first 2 picks... could be wrong and they wait. Also think there will be at least 2 picks for OL.

 

[Think McFly Think]

Voted OL but would be fine with DL. You guys already touched on the reasons so I will not repeat. Hard agree with RP that DL players have a tendency to work out better in early rounds.

 

[Think McFly Think]

Also this doesn’t have much bearing on the matter since needs change but historically the Pack have gone OL, DL, or other D player in the first round for pretty much the last 20 years with the exception of Love and Rodgers of course

 

[Tainthappening]

And OL it was in 1st round with Jordan Morgan. Picked slightly ahead of "consensus board".

Listened to Gutey talk about the pick... think he was their "last" OL target still on their board for 1st round and appears Packers really wanted OL for 1st pick and someone that could play tackle. Had several calls to move back... but really wanted Morgan it sounds like and worried he may not be there.

Gutey also called him "Packers player" (attitude, versatile, athletic, smart...)

On to Day 2... hope they keep all 4 picks. I would now expect DB and LB picks for Day 2 and maybe another OL.

 

[RP-29]

And OL it was in 1st round with Jordan Morgan. Picked slightly ahead of "consensus board".

Listened to Gutey talk about the pick... think he was their "last" OL target still on their board for 1st round and appears Packers really wanted OL for 1st pick and someone that could play tackle. Had several calls to move back... but really wanted Morgan it sounds like and worried he may not be there.

Gutey also called him "Packers player" (attitude, versatile, athletic, smart...)

On to Day 2... hope they keep all 4 picks. I would now expect DB and LB picks for Day 2 and maybe another OL.

When I saw Morgan was a versatile OL who could play inside or outside, I thought "yeah, that sounds like a Packers OL. Makes sense why they valued him a little higher than 'consensus'". Got no problem with the pick. Time will tell if it was the right one, but I support the concept & intent.

 

[Moab]

And OL it was in 1st round with Jordan Morgan. Picked slightly ahead of "consensus board".

Listened to Gutey talk about the pick... think he was their "last" OL target still on their board for 1st round and appears Packers really wanted OL for 1st pick and someone that could play tackle. Had several calls to move back... but really wanted Morgan it sounds like and worried he may not be there.

Gutey also called him "Packers player" (attitude, versatile, athletic, smart...)

On to Day 2... hope they keep all 4 picks. I would now expect DB and LB picks for Day 2 and maybe another OL.

When I saw Morgan was a versatile OL who could play inside or outside, I thought "yeah, that sounds like a Packers OL. Makes sense why they valued him a little higher than 'consensus'". Got no problem with the pick. Time will tell if it was the right one, but I support the concept & intent.

It's totally a Packers type of pick. Somebody that most don't have on their radar, especially the draftniks, but their kind of player.

I don't know enough about prospects, scouting or anything else to get emotional about the picks they make, heck over half of the guys they pick every year I've never heard of. Yet year after year they get guys that contribute from all over the draft and I can't ask for much more.

 

[Tainthappening]

Yet year after year they get guys that contribute from all over the draft and I can't ask for much more.

Last 2 years I think they have had great drafts, liked 2019 draft... other than that some average drafts under Gutey for me. Love if is next franchise QB will save that 2020 draft and make it a good one.

If they could have 3rd good draft, this team will be set to compete for 2-3 years IMO.

 

[Tainthappening]

Do not watch much college ball... but listen to some podcasts and check out some draftniks info to get to learn some of names out there.

Based on that really liked Packers day 2 of the draft with Cooper, Bullard and Lloyd picks... all 3 will compete for playing time early on I would expect. Also addressed some areas Packers needed some help.

Was expecting another OL pick.. but most likely coming in 4th-5th round now.

Also liked that Packers moved down and picked up an extra 5th and 6th rounder... if Packers can pick up some players like they have in past couple of years in those rounds this could be another very good draft.

Here is hoping for solid Day 3 for Packers in the draft

 

[Packerpro 99]

I wonder how long it will take before Lloyd is the #2 RB. I like Dillon but he seemed to regress last season.

 

[RP-29]

I wonder how long it will take before Lloyd is the #2 RB. I like Dillon but he seemed to regress last season.

Last season, Dillon showed us he doesn't have great vision (he doesn't see or hit holes at the right time) and his pad level is too high (it's pretty easy to tackle him and stop his forward momentum despite being a big guy because his center of gravity is too high when he runs). At this stage of his career, these are two significant issues that will likely never be corrected.

I had high hopes going into last season that he'd be a legit #1 RB rotating with another legit #1 RB (Jones) and the running game would carry the team early in the season as Love figures things out. Well, we know how things ACTUALLY happened... If Dillon would've been that guy, the Packers would've had at least three more wins on the season.

I expect this to be Dillon's last season in Green Bay and I expect him to bounce around the league for a few years on short term deals playing the RB #2/3 role before ultimately finding himself on the outside of the NFL when he hits 30 years old.

Overall, drafting Dillon turned out to be valuable. He was the 6th RB taken in 2020 overall, but has the 4th most rushing yards and 4th most TDs among RBs in that class. Too bad it looks like he never will reach the potential we were hoping for.

 

[Tainthappening]

I expect this to be Dillon's last season in Green Bay and I expect him to bounce around the league for a few years on short term deals playing the RB #2/3 role before ultimately finding himself on the outside of the NFL when he hits 30 years old.

Overall, drafting Dillon turned out to be valuable. He was the 6th RB taken in 2020 overall, but has the 4th most rushing yards and 4th most TDs among RBs in that class. Too bad it looks like he never will reach the potential we were hoping for.

Listening to sports radio, some question if Dillon even makes the roster this year... if he does make roster may need to be special teamer.

Regarding his drafting... interesting information, but I still feel he was overdrafted... so for me personally as 2nd round pick, has been a disappointment.

 

[RP-29]

Listening to sports radio, some question if Dillon even makes the roster this year... if he does make roster may need to be special teamer.

Regarding his drafting... interesting information, but I still feel he was overdrafted... so for me personally as 2nd round pick, has been a disappointment.

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Really, though, there's not many big hits or misses in the 2020 draft pertaining to draft position. Dillon was drafted 62 overall and slots out at about 30th in the "value" metric on pro-football-reference.



There's only a handful of guys on this list that have "graded out" slightly better than Dillon that were drafted after him and of those there's not really a "man, we really missed out on that guy when we took Dillon" like there was in the Kevin King draft.

 

[Tainthappening]

Really, though, there's not many big hits or misses in the 2020 draft pertaining to draft position. Dillon was drafted 62 overall and slots out at about 30th in the "value" metric on pro-football-reference.

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There's only a handful of guys on this list that have "graded out" slightly better than Dillon that were drafted after him and of those there's not really a "man, we really missed out on that guy when we took Dillon" like there was in the Kevin King draft.

Valid points... looks like 2 handfulls if you go by numbers and pick # in 2nd column, unless looking at picks close to Dillon pick than 1 handfull. Do have to say would have preferred Chinn at that point now for players drafted soon afterwards.

Love, McKinney and Sneed are all below AJ Dillon on the DrAv and I think to it is safe to safe all are better players than Dillon. Also like Gibson more as RB vs Dillon.. but think Packers wanted really big back at the time.

Unsure how much of a difference in DrAV is 3-4 points... RB was not necessarily big need for Packers at the time that I thought they would take RB in 2nd round... and I also think Dillon could have been drafted couple rounds later based on draft consenus information. My assumption is Packers fell in love with him and wanted to be sure they got him... same with Deguara in 3rd round who was even more of a disappointment for me.