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[SteelersPride]

i'm sure

 

[obxyankeefan]

This was the first explosion in 6 seasons.
It will get worked out.

Like I said sometimes it is needed. And I do believe the worst of this is behind us.

 

[TKOSpikes]

bingo, i got enough drama right now to even step into this

all this crap aside.... hope you come through clean on the other side of whatever shit pile you are in.

wish I could help... stay strong!

 

[SteelersPride]

all this crap aside.... hope you come through clean on the other side of whatever shit pile you are in.

wish I could help... stay strong!

appreciate it, i will, just gotta wade for a bit

 

[averagejoe]

appreciate it, i will, just gotta wade for a bit

Nothing wrong with taking a breather on the sidelines for a play or two.
That's what I did the last couple of days.

Here's the realization that hit me:
Was this a lot of "drama?" Maybe so.
But say you walk away and join another league. Or leagues.
At some point, you'll think to yourself... "these guys aren't as competitive or as passionate as the guys on the Hoop."
I just look at the other leagues I'm in with non-Hoop guys. There's a definitive difference.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Nothing wrong with taking a breather on the sidelines for a play or two.
That's what I did the last couple of days.

Here's the realization that hit me:
Was this a lot of "drama?" Maybe so.
But say you walk away and join another league. Or leagues.
At some point, you'll think to yourself... "these guys aren't as competitive or as passionate as the guys on the Hoop."
I just look at the other leagues I'm in with non-Hoop guys. There's a definitive difference.

Amen... You won't find a league like this anywhere else.

 

[tlance]

bingo, i got enough drama right now to even step into this

My best advice is to step away for a bit. Like others have said, things will calm down. Take care of your personal business and hopefully everything will be back to normal when you return.

 

[tlance]

I am absolutely floored by some of the candidates this year. I think there are many good ones, but @femurov and @ehb5 ,

You guys are awesome.

Everyone here should check out Fem's playoff competition thread. He organized pick em and survivor pools also during the regular season. High quality stuff.

 

[obxyankeefan]

I am absolutely floored by some of the candidates this year. I think there are many good ones, but @femurov and @ehb5 ,

You guys are awesome.

Everyone here should check out Fem's playoff competition thread. He organized pick em and survivor pools also during the regular season. High quality stuff.

I see 4good candidates for two spots. I am just glad I made it back last year.

 

[TREFF]

Alright fellers..date night went a little long, turned into dinner and a movie night, so, I'm sorry this is getting out late and I left everyone hanging. Trust me, it was not for dramatic effect.

 

[TREFF]

So, to me, the final piece of "dramatic" business to deal with is that of @Microwahevo and what he's accused of, and even in a roundabout way admitted to, tanking in D1. Now to be fair, there was no straight up admission of tanking, only an admission that putting forth his best team wasn't in his best interests. Now given that this is a dynasty league that we're talking about, for now, there are aspects to that that could be considered "strategic". But then again, there's the integrity and fair play of the league as a whole to consider, not to mention future draft status, yada yada. There is also the added caveat that Micro is the D1 commissioner as things currently sit. Not to mention the stated withdraw of the league of at least 4 other owners if Micro isn't at minimum reprimanded, some would say "banished" entirely. So you can see that this is already, a kinda big deal, and yes IMHO, he tanked, on purpose to improve his 2017 draft position. The entire initial discussion can be seen on the D1 thread, starting with SP's post #1073, and carrying on for about the next 4 pages, give or take a few posts. PLease at least read Micro's reasoning, and conduct towards follow owners, before forming an opinion, while keeping in mind, he's the commish.

NOw, on top of that, there are accusations that this carried over into BATG the final two weeks of the regular season, as either an abandoning of the team, or just a straight up FU to basically everyone. Having not heard anything form Micro since roughly page 60 of the D1 thread, these accusations of not been heavily discussed nor "investigated".

Furthermore, Micro has shown a history of abandoning his team, as WW pointed in in one of his quick stops to post his thoughts on our situation, and probably should have been "obliviated" last year, but since we had a lack of quality options available, he survived.

So, it is my motion, that Micro be booted, banished, whatever word you want to use, across any and all MBBRL related leagues. As for the D1 league, Lefty and I have a mirror league setup up with all settings, rosters (as of week 14..minor changes needed), and anything else needed to keep the league operating smoothly, including a replacement owner to take over the team, should Micro choose not to leave peacefully and transfer ownership of the league.

Given that this is a serious offense..tanking..I think serious measures need to be taken, and it will come to a weighted vote, should there prove to be enough support for the motion.

Your turn..please keep discussion, debate, civil, and as respectful as possible.

 

[Trudem]

I don't think there is any debate that can be heard on what transpired. I also can see how it would be strategic to improve a draft pick for the next season however you nailed it with integrity.

I was on the fence about what to do until I read some of the discussion back and forth between Micro and multiple other owners. Those interactions forced my hand in that I don't see how he could return to the league and how that league could continue if he did return.

I don't want to pile on him at all. Like I said, I can see the strategy in it but the discussions cemented his fate in my eyes at least.

 

[TREFF]

This is from Bandit...................4...........................

That sounds fine to me @leftypower you can call me if you need any clarifications on anything.

1st of all, I also agree totally with Tlance that we should get rid of the B league thread so everybody is on the same page with all issues. And since we are going to list everything, I think that since our #1 rule is to keep posting then there needs to be a minimum amount of posts required on the main board. I know this wasn't a problem in the past, but putting an actual number on it makes sense now. I'm not talking about a high number, but I was thinking that 60 seems good to me (that would be three posts per week from the beginning of August to the end of the regular season). Three times a week putting a freaking comment up should be the bare minimum. I mean you can say good luck to whoever you're playing and good game to them afterwards and have 2/3rd's of your requirement met, but I think since that rule was the main basis of this league it needs some clarification now. Thoughts on this? @TREFF @tlance @averagejoe @leftypower do you think that number is too low or about right? Also, I think violation of that rule should automatically put you up for oblivion vote. I mean it's the foundation of the league right?

Another thing along the lines of no douchey play. Well I think we need some clarification there also. I think that is way to vague of a definition. I have stayed out of the discussion about Shady because it was getting way too heated and I can't for the life of me understand why. All of the name calling and cyber screaming wasn't going to change the fact that it already happened, it was within the rules at the time so there was no violation of anything, and it is such an easy fix (change the maximum number of bench players to 5) before next season. Changing the max to 5 bench players doesn't necessarily mean that you must field 9 active players in your starting lineup, it just means that you must have a player in at each position to go with your 5 bench players which would solve the issue that Shady had last year because he would have to have a defense in without the 6th bench spot he was using.

I'm with Tlance on not putting too many restrictions on how you use your roster, but I think we should keep it more simple than that and give people some flexibility. I think the rule should be that any player should to the best of their ability fill their starting lineup with 9 active players since all points and results matter to the integrity of the league. Violation of this rule any 3 weeks during the 14 week regular season puts you up for oblivion vote. That way if you want to leave a player that's on a bye in one week you can, or if you leave Theo Riddick in your lineup and he's inactive and you lose by .3 points and alter the playoffs (sorry Face I had to) you can, but if it happens 3 times during the season you are up for oblivion with no discussion. By doing it that way, if you want to risk intentionally leaving a player that's on bye in your lineup that's fine, but if later in the season you accidentally leave an inactive player in twice you are up for oblivion. Also, the rule would apply if somebody is either abandoning their team or not paying enough attention and leaving players in who are on byes or inactive it will solve that as well. There will always be times for each one us that either somebody aggravates an injury in pre-game warmups so we had no idea that he wasn't going to play and he gets left in, or you have a questionable guy with a late game that is supposed to play but doesn't and all your other bench guys have already played early games so you have nobody to put in for him. That happens to all of us, but I think just making a general rule that if it happens any 3 weeks of the season you are up for oblivion eliminates the need to take each individual way you can end up with somebody not playing in your lineup and make a rule for it, plus if one of those scenarios happens that I was talking about you wouldn't be penalized for accidentally leaving an inactive player in for one week.

I"m sorry Bandit, I glazed right over this. I'm at a loss as for putting a number on posts per week..what a nightmare to keep track of. But we all know who has and hasn't been around much. I guess there has to be SOMETHING, but I honestly couldn't say what a fair number would be, its the "I'll know it when I see it" syndrome.
As to the active roster issue..I'd compromise at 2..you get one freebie, 2 in your lifetime maybe but not the same year..and I'm talking avoidable situations, not the ones where you "genuinely tried and it just wasn't there" exception to the rule which wouldn't count, nor the six on the bench deal which should be automatic oblivion, including A leaguers

 

[obxyankeefan]

A few things here. First off on Micro, I hate to pile on but I did receive a few e-mails asking weather he was tanking in D2 or not. I do know that he had an extremely bad injury season in both dynasties. I know what my vote is when it comes down to it and I will leave it at that.

Second off on the active roster issue. I am one that does everything I can to have a full slate of starting players each week. But I had 1 I can remember and maybe another 1 or 2 times that the person I put in at a position was slated as a playing but was then a Sunday morning cut. because of my schedule I set my lineups for the final time the night before and normally wake up after the early games have started.

An example of the one I do remember in the B league was this. Travis Kelce was on a bye. Jay Ayaji had not played yet this season. I dropped Ayaji and picked up Eric Ebron. It was a tough decision, but I was not going to leave a Bye player in. Ebron ended up being a Sunday morning scratch, and Ayaji got on the field for the first time for the Dolphins that week with 40 yards and a TD. I used Ebron to pick up someone else the following week to cover another bye, while Ayaji went for over 200 yards. I was lucky that I had the 2nd WW and the person with the 1st WW let Ayaji go, so I got him back for the rest of the season. All of this to say that I played someone who ended up being a Sunday morning scratch and I will do this in the future. I will do everything I can to avoid it, but with my schedule it is going to happen.

 

[TREFF]

A few things here. First off on Micro, I hate to pile on but I did receive a few e-mails asking weather he was tanking in D2 or not. I do know that he had an extremely bad injury season in both dynasties. I know what my vote is when it comes down to it and I will leave it at that.

Second off on the active roster issue. I am one that does everything I can to have a full slate of starting players each week. But I had 1 I can remember and maybe another 1 or 2 times that the person I put in at a position was slated as a playing but was then a Sunday morning cut. because of my schedule I set my lineups for the final time the night before and normally wake up after the early games have started.

An example of the one I do remember in the B league was this. Travis Kelce was on a bye. Jay Ayaji had not played yet this season. I dropped Ayaji and picked up Eric Ebron. It was a tough decision, but I was not going to leave a Bye player in. Ebron ended up being a Sunday morning scratch, and Ayaji got on the field for the first time for the Dolphins that week with 40 yards and a TD. I used Ebron to pick up someone else the following week to cover another bye, while Ayaji went for over 200 yards. I was lucky that I had the 2nd WW and the person with the 1st WW let Ayaji go, so I got him back for the rest of the season. All of this to say that I played someone who ended up being a Sunday morning scratch and I will do this in the future. I will do everything I can to avoid it, but with my schedule it is going to happen.

I also received the stuff about D2..I have a hard time with that one unless it genuinely was just a big FU..he made the playoffs nothing to gain really by tanking. Even with all the other "evidence" I give him the benefit of the doubt there. Hopefully he was just playing hunches on what may seem like irregular choices

to your other comment, I do believe, on a case by case basis, most last minute scratches would most likely fall under the exception, not the infraction. Even those of us who have no worries Sunday mornings fall victim to that one every now and again.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I also received the stuff about D2..I have a hard time with that one unless it genuinely was just a big FU..he made the playoffs nothing to gain really by tanking. Even with all the other "evidence" I give him the benefit of the doubt there. Hopefully he was just playing hunches on what may seem like irregular choices

to your other comment, I do believe, on a case by case basis, most last minute scratches would most likely fall under the exception, not the infraction. Even those of us who have no worries Sunday mornings fall victim to that one every now and again.

No he didn't make the playoffs in D2, he's in line for the second overall pick with 3 wins. He left a starting spot empty one week and was starting Aaron Burbridge over Cruz and others for at least a few weeks. I was one of those that asked OBX to look at his starting lineup and tell me what he thought.
No doubt in my mind he was tanking in D2 also.

 

[leftypower]

I think the Microwave issue is about as serious as it comes in fantasy. I think a vote as to "retain or dismiss" should be initiated. Probably a separate poll (or via pms) with voting limited to those league members who participated in D1 (for sure) and any other where the such an offense was committed. ....

 

[TREFF]

No he didn't make the playoffs in D2, he's in line for the second overall pick with 3 wins. He left a starting spot empty one week and was starting Aaron Burbridge over Cruz and others for at least a few weeks. I was one of those that asked OBX to look at his starting lineup and tell me what he thought.
No doubt in my mind he was tanking in D2 also.

Must've been completely confused as to what team he had then


Another reason to have team names that actually relate to your hoop screen name...why is that asking so much?

 

[bksballer89]

So currently going through Micro's lineup from the last few weeks of the B-League

In Week 14 he started Wilson who was placed on IR the week before. Same thing in week 13.

Considering whatever took place in the Dynasty league and also the fact that he basically disappeared from the board pretty much all of the football season last year due to some crap that took place on the Lions board.

 

[tlance]

I think the Microwave issue is about as serious as it comes in fantasy. I think a vote as to "retain or dismiss" should be initiated. Probably a separate poll (or via pms) with voting limited to those league members who participated in D1 (for sure) and any other where the such an offense was committed. ....

I think that would be fair, but perhaps two separate votes. D1 vote should be made with D1 members. By the way, if you need someone to take over his team, I might be interested. Always wanted a rebuild task.

MBBRL will be easy. He is up for oblivion. Nothing needs to be done there. I can't imagine Micro beating out any of our top candidates. That vote will really suck though. Stomp and at least 4 of the candidates are highly deserving.