Here are your official Playoff games folks

[droider]

#1 Alabama vs. #4 Louisville

#2 Ohio State vs. #3 Clemson

 

[ralphiewvu]

????

 

[Gatorchip]

#1 Alabama vs. #4 Louisville

#2 Ohio State vs. #3 Clemson

Huh? Make up your mind already. Just two weeks ago you said this:

Alabama, Clemson, and Washington have now clinched playoff spots.

 

[rmilia1]

#1 Alabama vs. #4 Louisville

#2 Ohio State vs. #3 Clemson

Louisville won't be 4. Resume isn't as good as Michigan. If they're ahead of Clemson OR Michigan then the committee isn't doing their job.

1. BAMA
2. OSU
3. MICHIGAN
4. CLEMSON
5. LOUISVILLE

 

[7Samurai13]

So who is beating Penn State to let Ohio State into the Big Ten Championship game? Will it be Rutgers who has been shut out three times this including to a miserable Michigan State team or will it be that miserable Michigan State team? Or are you suggesting that the committee will take a team that did not win it's conference or it's division over a team that won it's conference and either lost in over time to them or actually did beat them head to head?

 

[AnotherVoice]

#1 Alabama vs. #4 Louisville

#2 Ohio State vs. #3 Clemson

Hope not.

That would be soooooooooo boring.

 

[ellupo]

So who is beating Penn State to let Ohio State into the Big Ten Championship game? Will it be Rutgers who has been shut out three times this including to a miserable Michigan State team or will it be that miserable Michigan State team? Or are you suggesting that the committee will take a team that did not win it's conference or it's division over a team that won it's conference and either lost in over time to them or actually did beat them head to head?

The talking heads have suggested that the committee may take tOSU as a non conference champ if the win out. Personally I think that is a bad move. If they are not the best in their conference then how can they be the best in the country.

 

[7Samurai13]

The talking heads have suggested that the committee may take tOSU as a non conference champ if the win out. Personally I think that is a bad move. If they are not the best in their conference then how can they be the best in the country.

I agree unless you are taking two from a conference, but hypothetically if Penn State wins the conference, how can you take Ohio State over PSU with them winning the conference and winning the head to head?

 

[rmilia1]

So who is beating Penn State to let Ohio State into the Big Ten Championship game? Will it be Rutgers who has been shut out three times this including to a miserable Michigan State team or will it be that miserable Michigan State team? Or are you suggesting that the committee will take a team that did not win it's conference or it's division over a team that won it's conference and either lost in over time to them or actually did beat them head to head?

Ohio St will make it without even getting to the B10 title game IF they win out and here's why. Assume BAMA and Clemson win out. That means there are 2 spots left. OSU would own head to head wins over 2 of the other likely conference winners in Wisconsin and Oklahoma PLUS both those teams have 2 losses. The P12 winner right now looks to likely have multiple losses as well. I think an OSU team with 3 Top 10 wins and multiple other wins vs bowl teams plus a good loss would be in. I know the committee values league titles but that's not going to make up for head to head losses and extra losses imo. Where it gets interesting us if WVU wins out, Washington wins out and PSU wins out. Then I could see OSU getting left out but even in that situation you could argue easily that Ohio States resume is better than UW or WVU

 

[ellupo]

I agree unless you are taking two from a conference, but hypothetically if Penn State wins the conference, how can you take Ohio State over PSU with them winning the conference and winning the head to head?

I agree.

 

[rmilia1]

I personally think it's going to end up

1 BAMA
2 CLEMSON
3 WISCONSIN
4 OHIO ST

 

[7Samurai13]

Ohio St will make it without even getting to the B10 title game IF they win out and here's why. Assume BAMA and Clemson win out. That means there are 2 spots left. OSU would own head to head wins over 2 of the other likely conference winners in Wisconsin and Oklahoma PLUS both those teams have 2 losses. The P12 winner right now looks to likely have multiple losses as well. I think an OSU team with 3 Top 10 wins and multiple other wins vs bowl teams plus a good loss would be in. I know the committee values league titles but that's not going to make up for head to head losses and extra losses imo. Where it gets interesting us if WVU wins out, Washington wins out and PSU wins out. Then I could see OSU getting left out but even in that situation you could argue easily that Ohio States resume is better than UW or WVU

So you think that the committee will say that winning your conference doesn't matter now? They dropped TCU from 3 to 6 because they didn't win their conference the first year of the playoffs. Ohio State went to overtime with Wisconsin so it's not like they were blown out, plus they would have a win over Penn State.

 

[rmilia1]

So you think that the committee will say that winning your conference doesn't matter now? They dropped TCU from 3 to 6 because they didn't win their conference the first year of the playoffs. Ohio State went to overtime with Wisconsin so it's not like they were blown out, plus they would have a win over Penn State.

I think if the number of losses are equal then the conference title is a great way to decide but the committee is going to have a hard time justifying taking Wisconsin or Oklahoma ahead of OSU when both teams have more losses AND OSU beat both of them on the roaday. Ultimately their job is to get the 4 best teams. In 14 the circumstances were different. If OSU had had 2 losses instead of 1 they would not have made the playoff

 

[ericd7633]

The talking heads have suggested that the committee may take tOSU as a non conference champ if the win out. Personally I think that is a bad move. If they are not the best in their conference then how can they be the best in the country.

I don't get this argument. With the unbalancing of schedules, it's quite possible the best team doesn't win the conference, or even division. You could say PSU is fortunate that they got Iowa(at home), Minnesota(at home) and Purdue(sucks) from the West. I'd still take Ohio State's resume over the winner of Wisconsin/PSU, if they won out. And line all three of those on a neutral Ohio State's the best team IMO.

 

[PIBuckeye]

So who is beating Penn State to let Ohio State into the Big Ten Championship game? Will it be Rutgers who has been shut out three times this including to a miserable Michigan State team or will it be that miserable Michigan State team? Or are you suggesting that the committee will take a team that did not win it's conference or it's division over a team that won it's conference and either lost in over time to them or actually did beat them head to head?

newsflash - OSU doesn't have to go to the CCG to make it in the playoffs. They win out, they'll be in, bank on it.

 

[rmilia1]

As of right now this second the favorites to win each P5 are

Bama
Clemson
Wisconsin
Wazzu
WVU/Oklahoma winner

In that circumstance the only way OSU doesnt get in IF they win out is if WVU wins the B12 and the committee overlooks overall resume in favor of conference title. Possible? Sure. But if Oklahoma beats WVU this weekend I think OSU is in really good position. I'm sure the committee would love it if Bama, Clemson, Michigan and Washington all won out and made their job easy but that's not likely

 

[7Samurai13]

newsflash - OSU doesn't have to go to the CCG to make it in the playoffs. They win out, they'll be in, bank on it.

So they are going to leave off the Big10 conference champion for a team that lost their division? Year long avy bet, all of 2017, that Ohio State does not make the playoffs over the Big10 champion. If the Big10 champ goes and OSU does not I win. OSU goes and the Big10 champ is left off you win. Both make it, it is a draw, no winner. If Ohio State loses to MSU or UM bet is null and void.

 

[PIBuckeye]

So they are going to leave off the Big10 conference champion for a team that lost their division? Year long avy bet, all of 2017, that Ohio State does not make the playoffs over the Big10 champion. If the Big10 champ goes and OSU does not I win. OSU goes and the Big10 champ is left off you win. Both make it, it is a draw, no winner. If Ohio State loses to MSU or UM bet is null and void.

I've said before, the past few weeks, its possible the B1G gets 2 teams in..... possible. Pac 12 is down, SEC east sucks, there aren't that many more good options.

I will say this, I think OSU needs to put up style points the next 2 weeks. if they keep up with their low 60s scoring.

Even though we are living in the playoff era now, the X factor comes into play STILL, based on who would draw the most viewers.

 

[Milkshake]

The extra losses seems to displace the conference champ argument. Put this shoe on the SEC's foot. What if Florida or Tenn beats undefeated Bama in the SEC championship? Does Alabama get left out in favor of a 2/3 loss champ with a bad resume?

Yes I know that's a batshit crazy scenario. But think of all that has happened this year in the world.

 

[TemptressToo]

The Michigan or Ohio State dilemma will work itself out shortly...