Hopkins Holding Out

[RobToxin]

DeAndre Hopkins not at Texans camp, displeased over his contract

Houston Gonna Houston

 

[cdumler7]

Can't blame him. We will see I think August 4th when he has a huge bonus coming up and needs to be on the field to get it if he continues to have resolve. One of the most underpaid players in the league though for what he brings.

 

[cwalke3408]

Current contracts
Will Fuller: 4yrs $10,164,313
DeAndre Hopkins: 4yrs $7,626,702

 

[RobToxin]

Pay the man!

 

[Stomp]

Um isn't Houston capped on how much they can pay him because he's on his rookie deal?

 

[Breed]

Honey badger said best in a tweet.

"Guys can under perform and get cut, over perform & don't get paid... #Life'

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Um isn't Houston capped on how much they can pay him because he's on his rookie deal?

this is what I want to know too.
I thought you couldn't renegotiate rookie deals. Otherwise Russell Wilson would have redid his deal, instead of waiting.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

this is what I want to know too.
I thought you couldn't renegotiate rookie deals. Otherwise Russell Wilson would have redid his deal, instead of waiting.

After 3 seasons, teams can discuss extending contracts to drafted players.

@Stomp

 

[Schmoopy1000]

After 3 seasons, teams can discuss extending contracts to drafted players.

@Stomp

thanks I was curious, how that worked.

 

[cdumler7]

Yup 1st round players can start negotiating if they want after the 3rd season. The Texans actually have a bit of a history doing this as JJ Watt had his done after his 3rd season with that record setting deal at the time. I'm sure Hopkins looks at that and says "hey I'm a top player too so time for you to do that for me." If I remember right though he has a $500,000 bonus coming up next week that is predicated on him actually being with the team so we will see how resolved he is to hold out for this deal.

 

[NinerSickness]

Honey badger said best in a tweet.

"Guys can under perform and get cut, over perform & don't get paid... #Life'

1. Yes they do.

2. Matthieu's apparently never heard of a friggn' signing bonus or guaranteed money.

3: You poor baby.

 

[Breed]

1. Yes they do.

2. Matthieu's apparently never heard of a friggn' signing bonus or guaranteed money.

3: You poor baby. View attachment 143353

NFL contracts ar

 

[Breed]

1. Yes they do.

2. Matthieu's apparently never heard of a friggn' signing bonus or guaranteed money.

3: You poor baby. View attachment 143353

1) What Matthieu said was on point. That doesn't mean it happens in every single case, but its happened enough.

2) Bet that.

3) You triflin mothafucker.

 

[es4m11]

Current contracts
Will Fuller: 4yrs $10,164,313
DeAndre Hopkins: 4yrs $7,626,702

Yea... that situation is untenable.

 

[Ojb81]

1) What Matthieu said was on point. That doesn't mean it happens in every single case, but its happened enough.

2) Bet that.

3) You triflin mothafucker.

Matthieu didnt say anything that wasnt already understood and acknowledged by everyone in the league. He's free to go try for a guaranteed contract in MLB if this system is so unfair for him and other like-minded individuals

 

[es4m11]

Yup 1st round players can start negotiating if they want after the 3rd season. The Texans actually have a bit of a history doing this as JJ Watt had his done after his 3rd season with that record setting deal at the time. I'm sure Hopkins looks at that and says "hey I'm a top player too so time for you to do that for me." If I remember right though he has a $500,000 bonus coming up next week that is predicated on him actually being with the team so we will see how resolved he is to hold out for this deal.

Hopkins would be wise to hold out until he gets his deal. His value may never be higher than it is right now, and with the serious risk of major injury, $500k is nothing when he could be looking at a 4-5 year deal worth 50-60+ million. With a large portion of that 50-60 mil guaranteed.

If Hopkins were to continue to hold out, no way Houston doesn't cave. I have to believe Houston will do whatever it takes to ensure their star wide receiver is on the field with their new QB.

 

[Ojb81]

Hopkins would be wise to hold out until he gets his deal. His value may never be higher than it is right now, and with the serious risk of major injury, $500k is nothing when he could be looking at a 4-5 year deal worth 50-60+ million. With a large portion of that 50-60 mil guaranteed.

If Hopkins were to continue to hold out, no way Houston doesn't cave. I have to believe Houston will do whatever it takes to ensure their star wide receiver is on the field with their new QB.

Agreed. I would, if I were him

 

[es4m11]

Agreed. I would, if I were him

Absolutely. It's a no brainer on Hopkins' part.

If he is in need of $500k before a deal gets done, he should look into a loan. I'm sure there are plenty of investors out there who would be happy to provide him a loan.

 

[Breed]

Matthieu didnt say anything that wasnt already understood and acknowledged by everyone in the league. He's free to go try for a guaranteed contract in MLB if this system is so unfair for him and other like-minded individuals

Sure he is. He's also free to comment on the current shitty state of NFL contracts and the hypocritical bullshit that all NFL teams have pulled when a player has outperformed his present contract and wants to renegotiate it to reflect as much. That's when teams and most fans within the team's fanbase start pulling that "Honor your contract." bullshit out their asses.

 

[tducey]

Yeah, Hopkins deserves to be paid, he's their most talented player, Houston should pay him.