And Sammy Boy wants traded

[ctc]

I'm not seeing the words "Super Bowl" in there.

Unless you're convinced, contrary to all logic, that Condon decided to explain everything in a completely different manner, rather than expressing Bradford's actual objection, this is exactly where we all heard it.

What i'm not seeing is the word 'guarantee'. Perhaps you could highlight it for us.

We know this, because HIS AGENT SAID SO PUBLICLY AND REPEATEDLY

Perhaps you could link us up with those quotes.

 

[Rey]

Bottom line for me ... Sam did what was best for Sam monetarily when he chose a 2 year deal instead of signing long term. The Eagles offered Sam long term security yet he chose the greedy route with the 2 year deal which holds the Eagles hostage year 2 with a ridiculous price tag. If the Eagles were not able to trade up for Wentz and Bradford had a good 2016 ... then the Eagles would have been at Bradford's mercy year two of the deal. Bradford could have simply not chose to renegotiate in 2017, instead playing out the year taking up a monster amount of cap space and leaving via free agency in 2018. Bradford has nobody to blame but himself for the Eagles looking towards an alternate route for the future.

When Sam initially signed this contract he was in the position of power ... the Eagles know that you can't win in this league without good QB play and at the time they did not know that 1. they would get Chase Daniel in free agency or 2. that they would fall in love with Wentz or even be in a position to draft him. Because of the situation the Eagles agreed to Condon's 2 year deal. Now that the Eagles took the power back from Bradford with regards to the 2nd year of the contract and it leaves Bradford in limbo. The move to get Wentz pretty much nullifies Bradford's power for that huge payday year two of the contract. He knows barring a monster year he's going to have to hit the market again and could be in line for a significant pay decrease from what he would have made here.

 

[CSB]

I don't adopt predictions as much as I defer to the experience and knowledge of people I trust. Ray Didinger is one of them. He hasn't made a prediction of any kind, but he's given his assessment and, as of right now, it seems on point.

What about ESP and Kempski? And how about others like Ray Didinger? My brief canvassing of Philly sports commentators all seem to say that Philly is due for a down year this season. The most optimistic of them has them going 8-8, other than some yoyos like Mike Missanelli.

I don't know, your "assessments" sound a lot like predictions to me. So, I'm just wondering how well these experts have predicted/assessed these things in the past...I'm going to go out on a limb and say no better than most here.

 

[PhillyGreen]

Bottom line for me ... Sam did what was best for Sam monetarily when he chose a 2 year deal instead of signing long term. The Eagles offered Sam long term security yet he chose the greedy route with the 2 year deal which holds the Eagles hostage year 2 with a ridiculous price tag. If the Eagles were not able to trade up for Wentz and Bradford had a good 2016 ... then the Eagles would have been at Bradford's mercy year two of the deal. Bradford could have simply not chose to renegotiate in 2017, instead playing out the year taking up a monster amount of cap space and leaving via free agency in 2018. Bradford has nobody to blame but himself for the Eagles looking towards an alternate route for the future.

When Sam initially signed this contract he was in the position of power ... the Eagles know that you can't win in this league without good QB play and at the time they did not know that 1. they would get Chase Daniel in free agency or 2. that they would fall in love with Wentz or even be in a position to draft him. Because of the situation the Eagles agreed to Condon's 2 year deal. Now that the Eagles took the power back from Bradford with regards to the 2nd year of the contract and it leaves Bradford in limbo. The move to get Wentz pretty much nullifies Bradford's power for that huge payday year two of the contract. He knows barring a monster year he's going to have to hit the market again and could be in line for a significant pay decrease from what he would have made here.

Could not have said it better myself.

 

[WIZ]

Bradford doesn't need the money or the giant contract. I think he was just trying to shake that injury tag and earn a big contract here. The Eagles probably told him they were giving him that chance. After the ability to trade up became possible the Eagles probably changed their attitude toward him. This caused friction and he stayed home for a week looking at all options he now had. Nothing came of it and he came back.
I don't see the big issue with either side. Now Sam has to come compete for the first time in his life. He now realizes this and will probably do very well. Big deal, life goes on.

 

[mannyz]

He was right. Trotter busted when he went to the Redskins because he didn't fit the scheme they implemented. Trotter wanted to seek-and-destroy but was asked to read-and-react.

And Didinger and others like him aren't right 100% of the time. But they're right more often that not. And when you've got an overwhelming consensus of Eagles beat reporters saying the same thing, that should tell you something.

Of course, it's awfully early. Lots of things can happen.

He was completely wrong. Trotter leaving hurt the Eagles Defense immensely.

You are also talking about writers that love to tear down our teams.

 

[PhillyGreen]

Bradford doesn't need the money or the giant contract. I think he was just trying to shake that injury tag and earn a big contract here. The Eagles probably told him they were giving him that chance. After the ability to trade up became possible the Eagles probably changed their attitude toward him. This caused friction and he stayed home for a week looking at all options he now had. Nothing came of it and he came back.
I don't see the big issue with either side. Now Sam has to come compete for the first time in his life. He now realizes this and will probably do very well. Big deal, life goes on.

I disagree completely. I am one of the small contingent that wanted Bradford to remain long term. I wanted the Eagles to sign him long term and it appears they made offers but Bradford turned them down and I think two thinks came into play here........greed and arrogance.

Bradford did not like the fact the the business side of football has worked against him for a change. Throughout his entire career he has used the business side of the game to his advantage and now it is working against him.

Sam Bradford received the biggest rookie contract in NFL History. IIRC his was the last deal before the rookie salary cap came into play. His contract was for $76 mil and $50 mil of that was guaranteed. That is an insane contract for someone to not even put on an NFL uniform yet. He did not earn any of the money IMO but it was a contract that the Rams (and Eagles) honored completely. Going into last season the Rams wanted to keep Bradford but asked him to take a pay cut. He chose not to do so. The only options for the Rams were to trade him or release him. They already him $60 mil and traded him so they would at least get something.

I think Bradford believed he would be a hot commodity in free agency and found out quickly that he was not. He rebuffed the Eagles attempts of a long term deal. He opted for a short term deal with franchise QB money instead. He did this believing he was going to use the business side of the NFL to his advantage again. It did now work out that way and he has lost every bit of power he had. Sam Bradford is now auditioning for a starting NFL job somewhere other than Philly. He wants to get a big long term deal he is going to have to put up MVP type numbers.

 

[L.Freamon]

Ummm no. It's already been determined. We will get rid of Sam no matter what and hope that Wentz is as good and pray that he is way better.

^^still crying over Sam losin' ass Bradford^^

What THEEEEE Fuck.

 

[L.Freamon]

Didinger is a great guy but his football knowledge and hatred of people who don't pedestal him are tiring. I can listen to him and respect him but he'll hold a grudge against someone forever and sometimes even when he's wrong.

Got snubbed at a book signing, eh?

 

[Birds4life81]

Bradford doesn't need the money or the giant contract. I think he was just trying to shake that injury tag and earn a big contract here. The Eagles probably told him they were giving him that chance. After the ability to trade up became possible the Eagles probably changed their attitude toward him. This caused friction and he stayed home for a week looking at all options he now had. Nothing came of it and he came back.
I don't see the big issue with either side. Now Sam has to come compete for the first time in his life. He now realizes this and will probably do very well. Big deal, life goes on.

I didn't know you and Sam were friends, or related..cousins? Is he pretty generous with that 100million he's been gifted?

 

[WIZ]

I just think he's good and can lead a team. The money he has been given doesn't bother me one bit. Good for him.

 

[Birds4life81]

I just think he's good and can lead a team. The money he has been given doesn't bother me one bit. Good for him.

This is where I get confused, but thats your opinion, fair enough.

 

[WIZ]

We'll see I guess. He could certainly flame out but I think he does well the rest of his career.

 

[old duke]

Got snubbed at a book signing, eh?

No, I agree with Wiz. Ray is very knowledgable, but also biased at times, and like to pick the Eagles apart.

 

[redskinsfan]

Cut Peters?!!! He's going to fuck the redskins up.

Suuuuuurrrrreeee. Please make sure he's the guy trying to block Junior Galette and protect Bradford's blindside.
Sammy and Romo might be in the same ER sporting matching full-body casts.

 

[redskinsfan]

I don't know, your "assessments" sound a lot like predictions to me. So, I'm just wondering how well these experts have predicted/assessed these things in the past...I'm going to go out on a limb and say no better than most here.

Assessments are another word for analysis. If it were just one or two guys, I could see your point about these being simply the views of those writers. But people like Kempski think pretty clearly and, more importantly, when you've got as much of a consensus as there is about the Eagles chances this season, that's what sets this group as a whole apart from just a couple of yoyos articulating what they feel.

 

[redskinsfan]

He was completely wrong. Trotter leaving hurt the Eagles Defense immensely.

You are also talking about writers that love to tear down our teams.

Ok, I can agree the Eagles defense was hurt by Trotter's departure. But everyone isn't perfect. My point about the writers I'm relying on about the Eagles chances this year is that (1) there's more than one offering a pretty gloomy outlook on their chances; (2) they're all pretty respected commentators. I'll give you that some of these guys like to beat down on the Eagles. But it's not a case of them hating on the team, but sharpening criticism that's otherwise appropriate and deserving as to their chances in 2016. Kempski's stick figure drawings are hilarious.

 

[old duke]

I think 9 wins will win the division. If Romo stays healthy all season, then I think any of the four can win it. Although the cowgirls defense still stinks.

 

[Birds4life81]

I'll tell you what though…Sam Bradford is a STUD in the preseason

 

[L.Freamon]

No, I agree with Wiz. Ray is very knowledgable, but also biased at times, and like to pick the Eagles apart.

Thought that was his job, but i guess not.