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Buried knife found at OJ's

ducky

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Did you read comment #134?
"The only blood that was found at OJ's house was the following: "Pair of dark, crumpled socks found at the foot of Simpson's bed; DNA tests found the genetic markers of Simpson and his ex-wife".

Prosecution: contended this directly linked a victim to Simpson.

Defense: suggested socks were planted at house by police, then blood was put on socks later at the police lab to frame Simpson; most compelling evidence of tampering is that some blood soaked all the way through one sock to other side, which it shouldn't have done if a foot was in it".

And again....they would have never had a drop of OJ's blood to plant. It is hard to create and buy any of these conspiracy's when you have multiple tests done saying it is Simpson's blood which police never have access to.

Really the single drop of his blood at the crime scene in today's era of testing and people giving so much credence to DNA testing makes it a pretty easy case.
 

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Today they would never take blood from OJ so there would never be any to "plant". They would just swab his cheek. If this happened today, it would be a complete open and shut case.

They still take blood for testing to be used in US courts. Taking of blood is protected under 4th amendment rights, but it is still possible as long a warrant is obtained by a judge. You can bet your house in the case of a double homicide the court will be taking blood from anyone accused. The link below is mainly about DWI but it covers 4th amendment rights regarding general blood taking as well.

Can Police Force Drunken Driving Suspects To Take Blood Tests?
 

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People actually think OJ didnt do it?

Oh Boy

There is enough evidence to make it questionable. I'm fairly sure he had something to do it, and that makes him guilty anyway, I'm just not convinced he was the actual knife-man.
 

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And again....they would have never had a drop of OJ's blood to plant. It is hard to create and buy any of these conspiracy's when you have multiple tests done saying it is Simpson's blood which police never have access to.

Really the single drop of his blood at the crime scene in today's era of testing and people giving so much credence to DNA testing makes it a pretty easy case.
Whatever, it's not that easy and it happened over 20 years ago and maybe if it happened today, OJ's DNA would not match what was found at the crime scene. Both you and I are only assuming what happened then and what would have happened today,
 

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There is enough evidence to make it questionable. I'm fairly sure he had something to do it, and that makes him guilty anyway, I'm just not convinced he was the actual knife-man.


The defense successfully turned the case into the Mark Fuhrman trial, thats where they won that trial......Mark Fuhrman being a brutal racist should have been a complete sidenote, and it became the entire show

I suggest you watch the A&E special "OJ-The Secret Tapes".....He all but admits to the killings as he is about to commit suicide....His closest friends had to come to the conclusion that he committed the murder.....
 

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There is enough evidence to make it questionable. I'm fairly sure he had something to do it, and that makes him guilty anyway, I'm just not convinced he was the actual knife-man.
It called "reasonable doubt".
 

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The defense successfully turned the case into the Mark Fuhrman trial, thats where they won that trial......Mark Fuhrman being a brutal racist should have been a complete sidenote, and it became the entire show

I suggest you watch the A&E special "OJ-The Secret Tapes".....He all but admits to the killings as he is about to commit suicide....His closest friends had to come to the conclusion that he committed the murder.....

I am 99% sure that OJ did it too. But we were questioning whether you could actually prove that in court. The fact that Fuhrman was involved alone raises questions. And I have watched that show along with other documentaries about the case. They never prove beyond a doubt that he did it. They definitely make it look extremely likely that he did it, but criminal court requires an extremely strict burden of proof that failed to show beyond doubt he was the killer.
 

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The defense successfully turned the case into the Mark Fuhrman trial, thats where they won that trial......Mark Fuhrman being a brutal racist should have been a complete sidenote, and it became the entire show

I suggest you watch the A&E special "OJ-The Secret Tapes".....He all but admits to the killings as he is about to commit suicide....His closest friends had to come to the conclusion that he committed the murder.....
That tape was/is not enough evidence to convict OJ.
 

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I am 99% sure the OJ did it too. But we were questioning whether you could actually prove that in court. The fact that Fuhrman was involved alone raises questions. And I have watched that show along with other documentaries about the case. They never prove beyond a doubt that he did it. They definitely make it look extremely likely that he did it, but criminal court requires an extremely strict burden of proof that failed to show.


We live in a day and age where if the actual crime isnt caught on tape, you have a good chance of walking if you have the money to hire the right defense....prisons are full of young men that have been convicted with FAR less proof of guilt than they had on OJ.....The endless tapes and police records of OJ spending years brutalizing this woman should have been enough to prove that no one else had the motive to slaughter her in the way he had
 

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The defense successfully turned the case into the Mark Fuhrman trial, thats where they won that trial......Mark Fuhrman being a brutal racist should have been a complete sidenote, and it became the entire show

I suggest you watch the A&E special "OJ-The Secret Tapes".....He all but admits to the killings as he is about to commit suicide....His closest friends had to come to the conclusion that he committed the murder.....
Mark Furman jumped over the fence at OJ's without a search warrant and found a bloody glove that didn't fit OJ's hand. Furman also contaminated evidences when he jumped the fence without wearing gloves himself.
 

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That tape was/is not enough evidence to convict OJ.


The accumulation of evidence, from what was found that night, to his attempted suicide in the SUV, his stalking her and her new boyfriend, to the years of domestic abuse.....At some point, its pretty easy to conclude the obvious
 

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We live in a day and age where if the actual crime isnt caught on tape, you have a good chance of walking if you have the money to hire the right defense....prisons are full of young men that have been convicted with FAR less proof of guilt than they had on OJ.....The endless tapes and police records of OJ spending years brutalizing this woman should have been enough to prove that no one else had the motive to slaughter her in the way he had
Just because a husband and wife have a few fights, doesn't mean that he will kill you.
 

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Mark Furman jumped over the fence at OJ's without a search warrant and found a bloody glove that didn't fit OJ's hand. Furman also contaminated evidences when he jumped the fence without wearing gloves himself.


OJ took diabetic medicine......When he stopped taking it, his body swelled....He was instructed to stop taking it days prior to trying on the glove

This came straight from the mouth of his best friend Robert Kardashian in the documentary I mentioned earlier....
 

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Just because a husband and wife have a few fights, doesn't mean that he will kill you.


No, but in the case of OJ, its exactly what it meant

The entire world knew he was guilty the moment he took off in the SUV...Than the Legal Dream team stepped in
 

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The accumulation of evidence, from what was found that night, to his attempted suicide in the SUV, his stalking her and her new boyfriend, to the years of domestic abuse.....At some point, its pretty easy to conclude the obvious
What was obvious in the OJ case? Like I said before, just because you have a domestic abuse case filed against you, doesn't mean you are going to kill someone.
 

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They still take blood for testing to be used in US courts. Taking of blood is protected under 4th amendment rights, but it is still possible as long a warrant is obtained by a judge. You can bet your house in the case of a double homicide the court will be taking blood from anyone accused. The link below is mainly about DWI but it covers 4th amendment rights regarding general blood taking as well.

Can Police Force Drunken Driving Suspects To Take Blood Tests?

A cheek swab is just as accurate as a blood test when it comes to DNA. The reason they take it in DUI cases is because of the blood test is more accurate.

They might take a blood test but there really wouldn't be any reason to.

And part of the reason that they wouldn't' screw up the evidence in today's age like they did in the OJ trial? The entire playbook and rules for how to handle evidence is taken from that and other botched trials.

It would take a 1 in a 1000 case blunder to screw up the OJ trial in today' age even with his fancy lawyers.
 

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OJ took diabetic medicine......When he stopped taking it, his body swelled....He was instructed to stop taking it days prior to trying on the glove

This came straight from the mouth of his best friend Robert Kardashian in the documentary I mentioned earlier....
So??? The glove didn't fit then and it still wouldn't have fit in today's trial.
 

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What was obvious in the OJ case? Like I said before, just because you have a domestic abuse case filed against you, doesn't mean you are going to kill someone.


Im coming from a Common sense standpoint, you are coming from a completely legal standpoint...

Common sense tells me an innocent man doesnt take off and try to elude the cops instead of turning himself in and proving his innocence

Common sense tells me that a woman and young man without an enemy in the world between them were probably murdered by an insanely jealous, abusive and controlling maniac of a husband, rather than some random stranger that is still at large

Legally, I know why he walked, its why big time attorneys are labelled big time attorneys
 

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Glove shrank!
 
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