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[gandydancer]

.....hey,...when/where's the victory ~parade~ Today....?!

Wait? Did Mayhew get fired and I haven't read it yet?

 

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Wait? Did Mayhew get fired and I haven't read it yet?

......lol,....you guys won a fkkn game...!,....I'm riding on the ~float~ right now...*as I type*,.... we're in front of that [Pawnstars] pawnshop,.....the owners are waving at us...!

 

[gandydancer]

......lol,....you guys won a fkkn game...!,....I'm riding on the ~float~ right now...*as I type*,.... we're in front of that [Pawnstars] pawnshop,.....the owners are waving at us...!

Be careful, that huge brotha security guy likes the white meat thick.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Those unblocked guys on a straight drop back are just the lack of a RT situation being brought to light.

In the Denver and AZ game neither Waddle or Lucas could kick slide fast enough to pass-pro. Von Miller absolutely owned the RT, when uncovered.

well this right here, I just don't get. Warford at times will slide to the 5 gap and Waddle or Lucas will loop around to 1 gap and Swanny slides over and out to try to neutralize the 3 gap and there's no damn FB to help chip in behind for the oncoming DT or LB in a run block situation. That's just a dumb blocking scheme for an alleged counter run play. That's way too much for either RT to handle, being as slow afoot as they are.

 

[gandydancer]

In the Denver and AZ game neither Waddle or Lucas could kick slide fast enough to pass-pro. Von Miller absolutely owned the RT, when uncovered.

well this right here, I just don't get. Warford at times will slide to the 5 gap and Waddle or Lucas will loop around to 1 gap and Swanny slides over and out to try to neutralize the 3 gap and there's no damn FB to help chip in behind for the oncoming DT or LB in a run block situation. That's just a dumb blocking scheme for an alleged counter run play. That's way too much for either RT to handle, being as slow afoot as they are.

Part of that is the execution problems I speak of. Lombardi has them doing stuff above their skill set. So it's not so much they aren't executing. They've no chance at it. Power would be so much easier for these huge guys. Especially on run blocking plays. Waddle was decent in the 9 games he played in under Linehan. Lucas is a liability regardless of scheme at this point for me.

 

[gandydancer]

I'm still not sure if Swanson was blowing calls? I asked for some of the PFF lovers to look. Got no response yet.

The blocking and the pocket were much improved this week. See that again against Minny and I might be pulled in the direction of Swanson not really understanding the calls for a zone scheme at times. Don't see the lookout blocks anymore. That is what Miller was getting through on. He was flat out unaccounted for in straight drop backs and runs to his side.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Part of that is the execution problems I speak of. Lombardi has them doing stuff above their skill set. So it's not so much they aren't executing. They've no chance at it. Power would be so much easier for these huge guys. Especially on run blocking plays. Waddle was decent in the 9 games he played in under Linehan. Lucas is a liability regardless of scheme at this point for me.

all that right there is what I was thinking I was seeing. I have to be honest here, I notice these things on replays more than live action. Game is just too fast for me anymore Gandy.

Hat on a Hat in Power scheme with minor pulls on counters, yes.... but trying to swing 3,4,5 gaps is insane. I wouldn't try this with these guys if they had faster feet even.

This is why I believe both OT's absolutely have to possess extremely loose ankles, fast feet and the rest of their body will follow that in their mechanics. Obviously they've got to have very good technique but I'm sticking to my guns on the fast feet.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

I'm still not sure if Swanson was blowing calls?

I'm not sure if that's even a fair question to pose to PFF. What was the original play call ? What were the alignments when Swanson made calls ? What did Stafford call out when he's coming to the line or in shot-gun ? Did Stafford change the original play call ? Once Swanson made his final call before snap, in conjunction if a change of play call was made, were there any last nanosecond movements/adjustments by the DLine ?

That's a lot for PFF to even attempt to figure out or I'm just way the fuck out in left field with my thought process on that.

Damn Man, you see so much more than I do. I love to learn what you see and your thoughts are though, seriously.

 

[gandydancer]

Blue I rewind a lot during the game when something catches my eye. I don't see it full speed either. Then I catch up on a commercial break or in between plays.

I see all the parameters you laid out, however they still grade that. What they look at I'm not sure. Dom sucked at blocking but was very good on his calls. Can you imagine how bad it may of looked had he blown calls?

For all the same reasons you speak of, I just laughed when the debate about Suh was freelancing. When a person knows the exact call and what is supposed to happen on said call. I then read a story that's believable.

 

[Old Lion]

Part of that is the execution problems I speak of. Lombardi has them doing stuff above their skill set. So it's not so much they aren't executing. They've no chance at it. Power would be so much easier for these huge guys. Especially on run blocking plays. Waddle was decent in the 9 games he played in under Linehan. Lucas is a liability regardless of scheme at this point for me.

I keep telling everyone that Lucas is a LT. He has not adjusted to the right side. Not sure why. One would think it is harder to go from RT to LT then the other way around.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

I keep telling everyone that Lucas is a LT. He has not adjusted to the right side. Not sure why. One would think it is harder to go from RT to LT then the other way around.

in all honesty, old Lion, I wanted to see Lucas gets some reps in camp at LT and a lot of them, however, from what I'm seeing from him at RT, he just doesn't have the foot speed to man the LT.

 

[Old Lion]

in all honesty, old Lion, I wanted to see Lucas gets some reps in camp at LT and a lot of them, however, from what I'm seeing from him at RT, he just doesn't have the foot speed to man the LT.

Some guys are just not ambidexterous enough and can only fire off of 1 leg quickly. In other words, they can only play 1 side because of their stance (right leg back versus left leg back). Hard to play RT if you only fire off well with your right leg. JMHO.

 

[RobBase]

Some guys are just not ambidexterous enough and can only fire off of 1 leg quickly. In other words, they can only play 1 side because of their stance (right leg back versus left leg back). Hard to play RT if you only fire off well with your right leg. JMHO.

Ambidextrous only applies to hands, not legs and feet. Unless the liberals changed this too and I missed it.

 

[lionstop1]

Part of that is the execution problems I speak of. Lombardi has them doing stuff above their skill set. So it's not so much they aren't executing. They've no chance at it. Power would be so much easier for these huge guys. Especially on run blocking plays. Waddle was decent in the 9 games he played in under Linehan. Lucas is a liability regardless of scheme at this point for me.

We are aware that of the five OL we have, four of them are from zone blocking systems. I'm not sure why everyone thinks that the group we have are power blockers?

 

[lionstop1]

The Arkansas Razorbacks Offensive Line - An In-Depth Look

They mention Swanson and his ability in zone blocking.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Some guys are just not ambidexterous enough and can only fire off of 1 leg quickly. In other words, they can only play 1 side because of their stance (right leg back versus left leg back). Hard to play RT if you only fire off well with your right leg. JMHO.

This right here, I honestly agree with. I've read so many media scout analysts state, "If you can play LT in College, then you can also play RT ". You rarely see an analysis go the other way.

I've never agreed with that theory 100% or even 50 %.

 

[gandydancer]

I keep telling everyone that Lucas is a LT. He has not adjusted to the right side. Not sure why. One would think it is harder to go from RT to LT then the other way around.

He was a college LT. Don't really see him making the transition to either one. He shined and did decent against against declining Jared Allen and think it made many of us have false hope. JMO.

I keep speaking of going to a power scheme and feel he could be swing guy at best in a power scheme. I do feel Waddle can be a RT in a power S. With the issues they have along the line and RT being the biggest weakness. I would be irate if he could play LT and they hadn't moved Reiff to the right already.

The reason is one Blue spoke of earlier. His feet. Rarely are you going to find a guy who goes on to become a world beater at LT from being a UDFA.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

We are aware that of the five OL we have, four of them are from zone blocking systems. I'm not sure why everyone thinks that the group we have are power blockers?

I'm almost positive Ferentz ran a primarily Man scheme at Iowa (it showed on film). I'm also positive Swanson's first three years under Booby Petrino were primarily man scheme. Waddle and Lucas both come from Zone scheme. Warford primarily played a man scheme with sprinkles of some zone. Tomlinson was a mix of zone/man.

Tomlinson, Waddle and Lucas all came from primarily spread + zone read option teams.

 

[lionstop1]

I'm almost positive Ferentz ran a primarily Man scheme at Iowa (it showed on film). I'm also positive Swanson's first three years under Booby Petrino were primarily man scheme. Waddle and Lucas both come from Zone scheme. Warford primarily played a man scheme with sprinkles of some zone. Tomlinson was a mix of zone/man.

Tomlinson, Waddle and Lucas all came from primarily spread + zone read option teams.

Rieff is the only one from a man scheme.

 

[gandydancer]

We are aware that of the five OL we have, four of them are from zone blocking systems. I'm not sure why everyone thinks that the group we have are power blockers?

Size and foot speed. They're true down hill blockers. Also adjusting to power scheme is easy. Zone schemes in college where you hold a block for two seconds at best. College and the pros are worlds apart these days. You know that Yao. In college you can miss blocks and the shotgun QB has already thrown the ball by the time a DL guy is two steps deep.