Wiggy where you at bro?

[WiggyRuss]

One thing you don't know about the Heat/Lakers fans from CBS who now post on the hoop is that we don't disappear....Doesn't matter how bad our teams are or when they get eliminated.

It was easier for Kyrie to get adjusted to Lebron than Wade because unlike Wade & Lebron who played alomost the same identical way when they join forces....Kyrie actually play a different style which makes it easier to adjust to James. He still does too much dribbling at times.

Oh i dont think you guys as fans will disappear when the calender goes from April to May- just your teams.

I was put in a horrible mood the first 5 minutes of that game. Lebron ended up with great numbers- but shit down his leg the first 5 minutes which is CRUCIAL in an emotional game that is nationally televised like that

LeBron's numbers looked great at games end- but he played crap defense, he threw the ball away at the beginning like 5 times- let the heat get a lead and get confidence, momentum and the crowd into it- LeBron took too many dumb three pointers early in the shot clock too.

Trust me - I KNOW LeBron is a way better overall player than Kyrie at this point---- but a lot of times I have more faith in Kyrie in not making a ridiculous play where you just shake your head and wonder what the hell just happened.

I was really hoping with Kyrie missing hisfirst game tonight that they would feed Love and not stop feeding him- but again- it didnt happen

the guy cant pass the ball to himself- they need to get him off....it frustrates me to no end that they refuse to feature Love at times.

 

[bksballer89]

and for the record i said the Cavs would win 61- which is obviously not going to happen- all though they will get closer to that than the Heat fans who predicted 48 wins for the Heat.....and the Cavs will CERTAINLY get closer to 61 wins than any win total the Lakers fans predicted for the Lakers.

The Varejao injury hurts no doubt. Its good Thompson is the teams best backup and has started the last couple years and can just slide in- but Varejao was shooting like 56% and playing good ball- and I was really bummed and kinda surprised he got hurt- because unlike previous years where the Cavs really over extended him minutes wise (and it didnt surprise me he got hurt)- the guy was limited to about 25 minutes a game.

So- the bright side is that Thompson can step in and give you very similar numbers to Varejao with a little more athleticism, a worse 15 footer, ------

and i think the other silver lining is that the Cavs will have to rely on Love more- and i think there will be more of an onus on getting him going.

Honestly- I HAVE NO CLUE why- the Cavs- on at least a couple occasions- have notjust said- lets get Kevin off tonight- lets feed him all game- there havebeen a few occasions where hehas had huge first quarters- and then only gotten like 5-6 shots the rest of the game. With Varejao out they are going to need him to step up more. I do have to give Love credit for his amazing passing- and for being top 10 in rebounds when sharing the court with great rebounders like Varejao, Thompson, and LeBron.....

the huge downfall on Varejao going down is obviously the depth. AT least moving Miller to starting SG and Marion to playing some front court off the bench should help a little-

good thing Dion has gotten going too. That draft class when we look back was strange....
Anthony Davis at 1 and Lillard at 6 are def the cream of the crop

Beal at 3 and Drummond at 9 are probablythe 3rd and 4th best....and Drummond was damn risky....

after that you could certainly make a case for Waiters as the 5th best of that draft class- with reasonable arguments for guys like Ross at 8, Henson at 14, - while the steal has to be Draymond Green at 35

The Heat will be closer to 48 wins projection than the Cavs are to your 61 wins prediction. The only reason why the Heat are not a better team is that they played half of their games without Wade, Bosh, or both. Our offense run through those 2 guys so not having both of those guys together in the lineup for half of the games so far is a major blow. Tomorrow night will be the first time (most likely) that Bosh & Wade both played together in a home game since November 12th.

It's hard to get Love going consistently when the other 2 are in the lineup. Love can only have really good scoring nights with Lebron & Kyrie in the lineup if he is red hot from 3. Tonight is a good example of it. With no Kyrie in the lineup he got 17 shots (close to his Minny numbers) and was able to get 22 points on those shots. However entering the night he was avg 12.5 shots per night with nearly have of those shots coming on the 3 ball. Blatt has turned Love into a spot up shooter. Just as was the case with Bosh but not only is Love PPG decreasing but his rebounding numbers has taking a huge hit as well. He entered tonight only avg 10.3 RPG (only had 7 tonight) and he is on pace to avg his fewest rebounds since his rookie year. This is a product of Love standing around the 3 pt line a lot waiting for that spot up 3. Before this year he avg at least 3 OFF RPG while this year he is avg just under 2 OFF RPG

BTW that Cavs bench is awful

 

[bksballer89]

Oh i dont think you guys as fans will disappear when the calender goes from April to May- just your teams.

I was put in a horrible mood the first 5 minutes of that game. Lebron ended up with great numbers- but shit down his leg the first 5 minutes which is CRUCIAL in an emotional game that is nationally televised like that

LeBron's numbers looked great at games end- but he played crap defense, he threw the ball away at the beginning like 5 times- let the heat get a lead and get confidence, momentum and the crowd into it- LeBron took too many dumb three pointers early in the shot clock too.

Trust me - I KNOW LeBron is a way better overall player than Kyrie at this point---- but a lot of times I have more faith in Kyrie in not making a ridiculous play where you just shake your head and wonder what the hell just happened.

I was really hoping with Kyrie missing hisfirst game tonight that they would feed Love and not stop feeding him- but again- it didnt happen

the guy cant pass the ball to himself- they need to get him off....it frustrates me to no end that they refuse to feature Love at times.

No offense but unless Cleveland makes a trade for a quality big, I see them getting eliminated from the playoffs probably a week and a half or 2 weeks after Miami gets eliminated just based on what I've seen from both teams in the first 30 games

 

[WiggyRuss]

even with the Varejao injury the Cavs still have a bench of Waiters, Marion, Delledova, - which is very nice back court wise- but obviously needs a big time boost in the front court. How many teams that have suffered injuries actually do have good benches?

not many that is for sure.........

I just wish that every once in a while Kyrie and LeBron- as the 2 primary ball handlers wouldtake it upon themselves to get Love off big time. It does not have to happen every night...just like once a week or 2-3 times a month- where Love gets like 35-40 points and can get in a rhythm that will carry over.

It is by far my biggest gripe with the Cavs.....who- after their 5-7 start have gone 13-4

Dion accepting his role and playing good ball has helped- along with Delledova getting back from injury- and its nice Miller is back after missing a few games.

From what i heard the Cavs EASILY could havehadBrewer if they wanted him but did not want to use their trade exception on him- since they want to save it for a big man.

At some point during the year they will either make a trade or sign a big man that gets bought out.....

I wonder if KG would become avaliable- not that hes really that good anymore....but hed be a possible buy out or trade candidate down the line i feel ----

 

[bksballer89]

Waiters is the only option on the bench that you can actually rely on for scoring. Marion & Delledova are good at other things but nobody is really expecting them to come off the bench and give you guys 8-10 points nightly off the bench

 

[WiggyRuss]

No offense but unless Cleveland makes a trade for a quality big, I see them getting eliminated from the playoffs probably a week and a half or 2 weeks after Miami gets eliminated just based on what I've seen from both teams in the first 30 games

The only team that is goingto give the Cavs issues in the East is Chicago- and the Cavs beat them in their only matchup thus far- and Rose has proved that if ANYONE deserives the mr glass moniker (thats not named Dwade)- its Rose.

The Cavs lost to the Raptors early on- in a game where Lou Williams hit everything he threw up and scored 35- the next 2 games the Cavs handled them. I am not worried about the Raptors one bit

not worried about the Hawks one bit in a 7 game series either when they just dont have a go to guy- or the Wiz for that matter who have absolutely no answer for LeBron or Love

with all the turnover and a new coach and injury issues the Cavs are 14-5 against the East and have not come close to playing their best ball. The East is not the problem-

the problem will be the Finals......


the Cavs probably played their best game about a week ago though when they kinda stomped the Grizz----

should be a very fun and interesting season- and as many people say-the NBA season really gets its real start after Xmas

 

[WiggyRuss]

Waiters is the only option on the bench that you can actually rely on for scoring. Marion & Delledova are good at other things but nobody is really expecting them to come off the bench and give you guys 8-10 points nightly off the bench

thats very true- of course Thompson was on that list along with Waiters until he was pressed into the starting lineup- so we will have to see how it shakes out and who gets those extra shots of Varejao's-

as i said- i hope Love gets those extra shots of Varejao's.

 

[bksballer89]

The only team that is goingto give the Cavs issues in the East is Chicago- and the Cavs beat them in their only matchup thus far- and Rose has proved that if ANYONE deserives the mr glass moniker (thats not named Dwade)- its Rose.

The Cavs lost to the Raptors early on- in a game where Lou Williams hit everything he threw up and scored 35- the next 2 games the Cavs handled them. I am not worried about the Raptors one bit

not worried about the Hawks one bit in a 7 game series either when they just dont have a go to guy- or the Wiz for that matter who have absolutely no answer for LeBron or Love

with all the turnover and a new coach and injury issues the Cavs are 14-5 against the East and have not come close to playing their best ball. The East is not the problem-

the problem will be the Finals......


the Cavs probably played their best game about a week ago though when they kinda stomped the Grizz----

should be a very fun and interesting season- and as many people say-the NBA season really gets its real start after Xmas

They handled the Raptors in the other 2 games? The game in Toronto I give you but the 2nd game in Cleveland, Toronto controlled the game until about the 5 minute mark of the 4th. Also the 2 games that they actually did beat Toronto came when Toronto best player did not play in either game

Am I really supposed to be impressed about being 14-5 in the East? How about you look at their record against East teams they'll likely have to play in round 2 or the ECF? They're 5-3 against the Hawks, Wizards, Raptors, & Bulls. As I stated before their 2 wins against Toronto came without DeRozan so those games mean nothing.

Are you seriously bragging about beating Memphis without Z-bo? That team is not the same without Z-bo. They have yet to win a game without Z-bo in the lineup as they're now on a 4 game losing streak without Z-bo

 

[WiggyRuss]

Granger, Haslem and Anderson werea combined 11/14 on Xmas day and Deng - in a season where he is at a career low in points since his rookie year went 11/16 with 8 and 8

Lebron played some just total shit D in that game - and let Miami get the momentum by throwing the ball away like an idiot like 3 times in the first 5 minutes.

That game- and the opener against the Knicks- Lebron's emotions caused the other team to have good starts in hyped national tv games that gavethem confidence.....As soon as i saw lebron tripping on his dick those first few minutes i knew it was not going to be the ass kicking it should have been....

also- Dwade played great- thetype of game he can still have every once ina while- just not 4 times ina 7 game series (or proably even 3 times)

 

[WiggyRuss]

They handled the Raptors in the other 2 games? The game in Toronto I give you but the 2nd game in Cleveland, Toronto controlled the game until about the 5 minute mark of the 4th. Also the 2 games that they actually did beat Toronto came when Toronto best player did not play in either game

Am I really supposed to be impressed about being 14-5 in the East? How about you look at their record against East teams they'll likely have to play in round 2 or the ECF? They're 5-3 against the Hawks, Wizards, Raptors, & Bulls. As I stated before their 2 wins against Toronto came without DeRozan so those games mean nothing.

Are you seriously bragging about beating Memphis without Z-bo? That team is not the same without Z-bo. They have yet to win a game without Z-bo in the lineup as they're now on a 4 game losing streak without Z-bo

If you are talking about the Eastern Conference playoffs than and thinking the CAvs could lose early in them then YA- you should be impressed with a 14-5 record against the East when the Cavs have not played particularly good ball.

Kyle Lowry shit down his leg in the 4th qtr of that last game....again- Toronto has a lotof talent- but as far as a go to guy at the endof the game? during a 7 game series? its just not gonna happen.....

the Hawks are just basically a poor mans Raptors inthat respect.....the only team the Cavs need to even partly fear inthe East is the Bulls- and if rose is not healthy id take the Cavs 75% of the time in a series

 

[WiggyRuss]

have you guys seen Toronto's schedule by the way?

it has to be the easiest in the league by a fair margin. The only win- besides the game where lou williams went crazy v. the Cavs- that is a quality win was a 96-92 win vs. the Griz in mid november. It was nice for them they caught OKC without Durant or RW

 

[bksballer89]

Granger, Haslem and Anderson werea combined 11/14 on Xmas day and Deng - in a season where he is at a career low in points since his rookie year went 11/16 with 8 and 8

Lebron played some just total shit D in that game - and let Miami get the momentum by throwing the ball away like an idiot like 3 times in the first 5 minutes.

That game- and the opener against the Knicks- Lebron's emotions caused the other team to have good starts in hyped national tv games that gavethem confidence.....As soon as i saw lebron tripping on his dick those first few minutes i knew it was not going to be the ass kicking it should have been....

also- Dwade played great- thetype of game he can still have every once ina while- just not 4 times ina 7 game series (or proably even 3 times)

Deng has had his moments this year even though he has not been consistent. Usually when Deng is around 20 the Heat usually win and Deng almost always play well against Lebron since his Chicago days. They also changed the offense a bit to get Deng more involved as they're using some of the stuff the Bulls used for him. Deng has scored 18+ points 9 times this season and the Heat are 7-2 in those games.

Your comment about D-Wade is so far from the truth and just shows you don't watch any basketball except Cavs games. Wade is avg over 23 PPG this year which is 6th best and has scored 23+ points (28 or more in 5 of the 7) in 6 of his 7 last games including a 42 point game on 19 shots last week

As for UD, Bird, & Granger having solid nights.....shit like that will happen when you don't have any rim protectors in your lineup

 

[Heatles84]

I miss Wiggy's predictions and spins. He's been wrong for the most part about how the season would go. Outside of Lebron, the core of the Cavs team (I guess you could include role players like Miller and Marion) who haven't won and don't know how to deal with winning. Keep talking, Wiggy. The Cavs may go deeper in the playoffs then the Heat, but everyone sees that the Cavs aren't the favorites to win it all like you think.

 

[bksballer89]

have you guys seen Toronto's schedule by the way?

it has to be the easiest in the league by a fair margin. The only win- besides the game where lou williams went crazy v. the Cavs- that is a quality win was a 96-92 win vs. the Griz in mid november. It was nice for them they caught OKC without Durant or RW

So the Hawks 2x, Wizards, & Suns are not good wins? They have done a nice job of winning games even without DeRozan for the last month. BTW 3 of their next 4 are on the road against the Clippers, Blazers, & Warriors

 

[WiggyRuss]

im looking at the other eastern conference teams benches and dont see a whole lot outside of Chicago

the Hawks? Thabo, Pero Antic, Bazemore, Schroeder, Brand....thats not good

the Wiz? Otto Porter, Seraphin, Webster, Miller, Blair, Humphries.....they do have some at least decent players and depth- but with a guy like Nene who cant stay healthy, andPierce who is ancient youbetter- and none of those guys are as good as Waiters

Toronto?- Lou williams is real legit obviously- James Johnson is pretty solid, Greivis Vazquez is a good backup PG, Patrick Patterson- probablythe 2nd best bench after Chi- but out of all these teams id put their starting lineup behind the Cavs, Bulls, and Wiz probably...- its just hard for me to envision a team getting past the 2nd round when they have no go to guy--- Lowry is good- but hes not a guy who carries a team- and the # of PGs that have done such a thing are extremely rare

the Bulls still have their same problem. rose is always hurt- and they dont have a 2nd scorer that can do it consistently overa 7 game series

assuming whoever comes outof the West has the good fortitude to stay healthy (otherwise they probably wouldnt come out of the West)- the Cavs will have atough time with them -

but the Cavs have not played great yet thus far- and despite that fact- no team inthe East looks like they could win a 7 game series against the Cavs unless Drose gets his healthy and stops being a cry baby

 

[WiggyRuss]

I miss Wiggy's predictions and spins. He's been wrong for the most part about how the season would go. Outside of Lebron, the core of the Cavs team (I guess you could include role players like Miller and Marion) who haven't won and don't know how to deal with winning. Keep talking, Wiggy. The Cavs may go deeper in the playoffs then the Heat, but everyone sees that the Cavs aren't the favorites to win it all like you think.

while i have overestimated the Cavs win total at 61--- my predictions of major underachieving by the Heat and Lakers have been spot on.

Wade and Rose getting hurt- that prediction was spot on---- Kobe's efficiency falling off the face of the earth....another good one....

 

[bksballer89]

Jimmy Butler is a top 10 scorer this season.....

 

[bksballer89]

while i have overestimated the Cavs win total at 61--- my predictions of major underachieving by the Heat and Lakers have been spot on.

Wade and Rose getting hurt- that prediction was spot on---- Kobe's efficiency falling off the face of the earth....another good one....

Wade had one minor hamstring injury. He has been amazing all year long. The Heat will be a 44 or 45 win team once Bosh can stay healthy. When you depend on 2 guys for most of your scoring and run your offense through them, it obviously is a major blow when you're without at least one of them for 15 games this season which is half of the games Miami has played.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Your comment about D-Wade is so far from the truth and just shows you don't watch any basketball except Cavs games. Wade is avg over 23 PPG this year which is 6th best and has scored 23+ points (28 or more in 5 of the 7) in 6 of his 7 last games including a 42 point game on 19 shots last week

The Heat have played 30 games and Wade and Bosh have started in 22 and 23 of them and the Heat are under 500

did you really expect Dwade and Bosh to play more than about 75% of games?

arent the heat just about exactly where they should be right now?

 

[bksballer89]

The Heat have played 30 games and Wade and Bosh have started in 22 and 23 of them and the Heat are under 500

did you really expect Dwade and Bosh to play more than about 75% of games?

arent the heat just about exactly where they should be right now?

Where do you get your false numbers from? Wade & Bosh only started in 16 games together. In the other games that they started, the other was out.

No the Heat aren't exactly right where they should be. When you're missing one of your top 2 players in 14 of the 30 games played so far you're not right where you should be.

And yes I did expect Bosh to play more than 75% of the games.....considering that in his first 4 years in Miami he only had 1 injury