BIG 10 THERAPY THREAD

[Red_Alert]

Never said they are using the polls. And I even said, if UGA/So. Car win out who is going to be thought of in higher regard. I think it'll be UGA/So. Car given schedules. And again I said they are selecting teams, not conferences.

And I'm not sure why you continue to lol at me. I can form an opinion on my own. It's my opinion that a 1 loss team that played a much tougher schedule be selected ahead of an undefeated team that didn't play near as a tough of a schedule. I'll take the conference talk out of it.

You actually did inject rankings. You pointed out the polls as proof of a tougher SOS.

I will say it again. An undefeated P-5 team will have done everything asked of it under it's control with a P-5 schedule. A one loss P-5 Will not have.

Cry me a river of tears.

 

[Wamu]

1. I am forever mellow.

2. Upset over leaving the snow in January to get an opportunity to play Ohio in Pasadena.... ???? Are you joking? Heck no I am not upset. 0-8 vs ohio so it was nothing new.

I am hoping for Oregon to get that 1st win in a few years vs the bucks

Do you think your Ducks will be one of the 4 teams standing @ the end of the year?

 

[WhiteMamba]

You actually did inject rankings. You pointed out the polls as proof of a tougher SOS.

I will say it again. An undefeated P-5 team will have done everything asked of it under it's control with a P-5 schedule. A one loss P-5 Will not have.

Cry me a river of tears.

So, back to the obvious question. Is the assumption Nebraska goes undefeated?

:bites tongue to keep from lol:

 

[LawDawg]

It's not a push if Bama has one loss and there's an undefeated Big 10. There will be no "common opponent" or "head to head" factor.
That they both play P-5 schedules removes the SOS factor.

An undefeated P-5 conference champ will get selected over a one loss conference champ. Deal with it. The reason is that there's nothing that says the undefeated conference champ couldn't beat the team that beat the one loss conference champ.

You continue to act as if you are spouting facts. Neither of us really knows. But, the idea that they won't look at the body of work of each team, and then decide which is more deserving is crazy. As it stands today, running through the B1G undefeated <<<< losing 1 game running through the SEC West. Not sure about the East, or other conferences. But, I believe that is the exact SOS that the committee will be looking at.

Your argument is so shallow ... you act as if the "only include Conf Champs" argument won when in fact it lost. That's why there is a committee. SOS will extend to the quality of the competition you play, and that certainly doesn't look good for the B1G right now with what has to be the worst conference performance against OOC that I've seen in a decade.

Your anger in these posts shows you know I am right. "Deal with it" ... really? At the end of the day, I don't really care ... I am discussing something of interest on a sports board. You are the one all rustled up.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Do you think your Ducks will be one of the 4 teams standing @ the end of the year?

I would say yes. If Oregon stays healthy they should finish with one or zero losses.

If Oregon gets beat by Stanford again, we Duck fans will be rooting for another in conference Stanford loss. Because with that Cardinal loss Oregon would still go to CCG. And then play a PAC South team. A game where a healthy Oregon team would be double dig favs.

But let's just focus on @WSU this Saturday.

So far, the Ducks resume has them in. But there are 9 more football games to play.

 

[ericd7633]

Good move.

Yes because it's dumb to argue about because it's so clear to everyone, including those who vote. B1G had two top 10 teams at the beginning of the year. One of those doesn't deserve to be ranked based on actual on field results.

1-10 vs other P5 conferences is the only thing that matters.

 

[Wamu]

I would say yes. If Oregon stays healthy they should finish with one or zero losses.

If Oregon gets beat by Stanford again, we Duck fans will be rooting for a Stanford loss. Because with that Cardinal loss Oregon would still go to CCG. And then play a PAC South team. A game where a healthy Oregon team would be double dig favs.

But let's just focus on @WSU this Saturday.

So far, the Ducks resume has them in. But there are 9 more football games to play.

Best of luck to your Ducks the rest of the year.

 

[Red_Alert]

No it would be the 1 win over the other P5 conferences. Which is by far the worst of any conference and it's not really even close. Seriously after this weekend if you think there is a question about the worst P5 conference, I can't really help you at this point.

Did the conference play those games or did individual teams play those games?

LOL @ you.

Y'all can't help yourselves.

 

[ericd7633]

You actually did inject rankings. You pointed out the polls as proof of a tougher SOS.

I will say it again. An undefeated P-5 team will have done everything asked of it under it's control with a P-5 schedule. A one loss P-5 Will not have.

Cry me a river of tears.

And I'll continue to say not all P5 schedules are created equal.

Not even mentioning rankings. Computers will back that up.

 

[The Authority]

Yes because it's dumb to argue about because it's so clear to everyone, including those who vote. B1G had two top 10 teams at the beginning of the year. One of those doesn't deserve to be ranked based on actual on field results.

1-10 vs other P5 conferences is the only thing that matters.

If that team you are talking about doesn't deserve to be ranked then why are they ?

Why does the conference that is "By Far the worst" have twice as many ranked teams as other P5 conferences?

Tell us since you seem to think your opinion means more than those that actually matter and have their results published?

 

[ericd7633]

Did the conference play those games or did individual teams play those games?

LOL @ you.

Y'all can't help yourselves.

Sorry if I think the teams in the B1G aren't any good.

 

[LawDawg]

You actually did inject rankings. You pointed out the polls as proof of a tougher SOS.

I will say it again. An undefeated P-5 team will have done everything asked of it under it's control with a P-5 schedule. A one loss P-5 Will not have.

Cry me a river of tears.

Let me show you the fallacy of you argument ... let's say that all 5 conf champs are undefeated. Now what? They've all done all that they can do. Yet, the committee will have to evaluate which of the 5 don't get in. How do you supposed they will do that? You really don't think they will consider the poor - no, horrible - showing of the B1G OOC? That is the only logical conclusion. And, that being the case, why wouldn't they look at a one-loss Auburn, as an example, who wins all but 1 against KState, UGa, USCe, Bama, LSU, TAMU, Ole Miss (not sold on them), and then the SEC East Champ (probably UGa or USCe again), compared to the slate that Neb will have played, and determine that Auburn is more deserving.

I don't know if you've been paying attention, but they are allowed to actually consider injuries. If they can do that, they can surely look at the slate of games a team plays and determine that a one loss team is more deserving than an undefeated team in a weak conference.

 

[The Authority]

1-10 vs other P5 conferences is the only thing that matters.

its the only thing that matters to who ?


Does 1 - 10 vs other P5 conference mean that Michigan St couldn't beat Auburn or Alabama?

 

[Red_Alert]

Are on field results facts?

B1G 1-10 vs P5s

Deal with that Jack!

BC >>> USC = ACC >>> PAC

USC beat Stanford. Oregon SOS = shit
Got it.

 

[ericd7633]

If that team you are talking about doesn't deserve to be ranked then why are they ?

Why does the conference that is "By Far the worst" have twice as many ranked teams as other P5 conferences?

Tell us since you seem to think your opinion means more than those that actually matter and have their results published?

It's easier to rank a team like USC who lost at Boston College than it is a team like Pitt even though they just won at Boston College last week. And there are numerous factors why USC gets the edge even though they shouldn't be based on on the field results. And if Va Tech isn't ranked I sure as hell don't know why OSU is. But it comes down to all those other factors.

 

[Tharvot]

And I'll continue to say not all P5 schedules are created equal.

Not even mentioning rankings. Computers will back that up.

Lol, the computers won't mean shit. The committee is picking the 4 playoff teams, not the computers.

 

[The Authority]

It's easier to rank a team like USC who lost at Boston College than it is a team like Pitt even though they just won at Boston College last week. And there are numerous factors why USC gets the edge even though they shouldn't be based on on the field results. And if Va Tech isn't ranked I sure as hell don't know why OSU is. But it comes down to all those other factors.

What factors? You didn't mention any.

 

[Tharvot]

its the only thing that matters to who ?


Does 1 - 10 vs other P5 conference mean that Michigan St couldn't beat Auburn or Alabama?

Clearly, it means the Michigan St couldn't beat Vandy. Because did you know that tSEC has 7 teams ranked in the top 15? Vandy is part of team sec, so they are good and MSU is part of team B1G and they are not good.

 

[Red_Alert]

you guys want to take conferences out of it, then do it like this:

How many undefeated teams have there been in each of the last 5 years:
2013 - 1 - FSU
2012 - 1 - Ohio State
2011 - 0
2010 - 2 - Auburn & TCU
2009 - 2 - Bama & Boise State

It's a 4 team playoff, if the pattern holds there is 1 undefeated team, maybe 2, so no matter the conference an undefeated team should get into the playoff from a Power 5.

That's just it. They don't want to take conferences out of it. They need a nutsack to swing on if they lose a game.

LOL @ them.

 

[ericd7633]

Lol, the computers won't mean shit. The committee is picking the 4 playoff teams, not the computers.

This I know. But when determining who played a tougher schedule the computer is a tool to figure it out. If the committee doesn't look at computers they can certainly judge for themselves based on an individual schedule who's is tougher.