Saban draws comparisons to smoking heaters and the HUNH

[The Authority]

So now only studies that Saban references can be used?
And this is why Alabama fans think people like you are haters. You don't give a shit about the topic, you just want to hate on the coach that's been kicking your ass these past years.

Hell, you should be grateful to Saban. If not for him beating the hell outta your coach at Florida, you wouldn't even have him right now.

Good god, your avoidance of a question is mind blowing.

The topic is about Saban's logic and hypocrosy. Not some hockey study.

Are you really this slow?

And BTW, My coach won a National Title at Saban's expense as well so congrats on another failure of deflection.

 

[4down20]

No one argues fatigue can lead to higher cases of muscle strain. Thanks for highlighting that. You are make all kinds of assumptions. Fatigue is higher in games with more plays. Type of play has 0 contribution to amount of physical fatigue a player feels. You are holding on to a small portion of the facts in order to bolster your argument, without taking notice of the bigger picture and factors involved.

The study was about concussions. Furthermore, it directly referenced overall playing time.

Deal with it.

 

[The Authority]

But limiting the style of defense is great. If you are a team that doesn't play it.

Who asked for the defense to be limited ?

 

[Codaxx]

You keep missing the point. Your Hockey study was not something that Nick referenced.

The question at hand was about Nick's assumptions and reasoning and hypocrosy.

Not some generic non conclusive hockey study that was never brought up

Interesting I saw a hockey study showing that players were far more likely to get injured in games than in practice. That was a result of the heightened level of contact faced in the games. It also said players with higher level of playing minutes were more likely to be injured. They cited fatigue as an indicator for injures, but that is a bit subjective. Fatigue in the study was measured by Incredibly Short Profile of Mood States, which is a psychological measure of a physiological problem.

 

[4down20]

Good god, your avoidance of a question is mind blowing.

The topic is about Saban's logic and hypocrosy. Not some hockey study.

Are you really this slow?

And BTW, My coach won a National Title at Saban's expense as well so congrats on another failure of deflection.

No, that is the topic you want it to be, because that is your own conclusion of the topic.

Cry more.

 

[The Authority]

The study was about concussions. Furthermore, it directly referenced overall playing time.

Deal with it.

Did this study from an entirely different sport play any part in Nick's lobbying?


Gee I wonder if this question gets avoided like the plague to.

 

[The Authority]

No, that is the topic you want it to be, because that is your own conclusion of the topic.

Cry more.

LOL. You are the one crying defending your hypocritical coach.

I'll take your avoidance of the question as a concession that you are too afraid to answer it.

 

[4down20]

Did this study from an entirely different sport play any part in Nick's lobbying?

Gee I wonder if this question gets avoided like the plague to.

Maybe because the question doesn't remotely matter on the topic itself, unless you are just wanting to hate on Nick Saban.

 

[4down20]

LOL. You are the one crying defending your hypocritical coach.

I'll take your avoidance of the question as a concession that you are too afraid to answer it.

Yes, presenting facts is the perfect resemblance of crying. And all the people who are in an uproar about the proposed rule change making multiple threads and talking about how none of it matters because Nick Saban aren't.

 

[The Authority]

Maybe because the question doesn't remotely matter on the topic itself, unless you are just wanting to hate on Nick Saban.

If any coach showed this level of hypocrisy he is going to get asked about it, called out about it, and piled on about it.

Just deal with it and stop crying.

 

[The Authority]

Yes, presenting facts is the perfect resemblance of crying. And all the people who are in an uproar about the proposed rule change making multiple threads and talking about how none of it matters because Nick Saban aren't.

You didn't provide one relevant fact that had to do with the question about Saban's hypocrisy.

 

[4down20]

If any coach showed this level of hypocrisy he is going to get asked about it.

Just deal with it and stop crying.

Yes, after 36 pages in one of like 10+ threads on the topic, people are merely asking. And they are not at all involved so deeply in the topic because it affects their teams and they have an agenda of their own, it's all about this one coach.

 

[cane_man]

Well, if you want a direct answer:

Studies have shown that extra games do not cause much extra injuries. What does cause more injuries are fatigued players during a game. When they play the next game, they are fresh and the injuries become less risk again.

In-game fatigue influences concussions in nat... [Res Sports Med. 2008] - PubMed - NCBI

The number of concussions and other head injuries are increasing in the National Hockey League (NHL). The factors that may influence concussion risk in hockey remain largely unknown. In the current study, data on 787 NHL players from the 2001-2002 season were examined. It was found that a player's average ice time per game was a significant predictor of concussion. A player's total ice time for the season was not a significant predictor, however, and there was no significant difference found in the number of games played in the season between those who suffered a concussion and those who did not. These data suggest that in-game fatigue is an important factor when considering concussions.

Hockey forum is over thar...

 

[trojanfan12]

You are so right, he should be out there trying to get football shut down completely. Why stop at 12 minutes? Is that some kind of magical point where you get less injuries than 15 minutes? Wouldn't 10 be even better? Well, anyone who says 10 minute quarters obviously don't care about player safety, because we can reduce that to 5 minute quarters and do even better!

No way in hell any coach can be serious about injuries.

And you are also so right about the weight limit. Smaller and weaker is obviously better, but unless you want to draw the line at people with the same build as those who run in track, then you probably odn't care about safety. Maybe they are too big even still, we could go further I'm sure.

Or here's a crazy idea. Maybe much like the reason they wear pads, helmets and have other rules for saftey, the goal isn't just to reduce player safety, but to reduce player safety while maintaining the integrity of the game itself. What a crazy concept that is.

Just as I thought. More deflection and drama, but no answers to a serious question. Pretty much the typical response from you and a couple of other Bammers.

Why don't you regale us all with more deflections about 'Bama's NC's or cry some more about how everyone is picking on 'Bama?

Or better yet, you could threaten to leave and not post here anymore, only to change your mind again (after all, it is a woman's prerogative).

 

[The Authority]

Yes, after 36 pages in one of like 10+ threads on the topic, people are merely asking. And they are not at all involved so deeply in the topic because it affects their teams and they have an agenda of their own, it's all about this one coach.

As it would be with any top coach who flaked out like saban did.

 

[The Authority]

Just as I thought. More deflection and drama, but no answers to a serious question. Pretty much the typical response from you and a couple of other Bammers.

Why don't you regale us all with more deflections about 'Bama's NC's or cry some more about how everyone is picking on 'Bama?

Or better yet, you could threaten to leave and not post here anymore, only to change your mind again (after all, it is a woman's prerogative).

 

[Codaxx]

Hockey forum is over thar...

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You the best part of this story. Minutes played effect concussions. Alabama's offense played for 416:04 minutes last yr. Oregon played for 332:10. Maybe Nick should look at the study and speed up the offense.

 

[pennstatenut]

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You the best part of this story. Minutes played effect concussions. Alabama's offense played for 416:04 minutes last yr. Oregon played for 332:10. Maybe Nick should look at the study and speed up the offense.

But... but... but the defenses are tired and are getting concussed from those offenses that spend less time on the field.

 

[The Authority]

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You the best part of this story. Minutes played effect concussions. Alabama's offense played for 416:04 minutes last yr. Oregon played for 332:10. Maybe Nick should look at the study and speed up the offense.

LOL at completely destroying that study as being 100% irrelevant to Saban's agenda as I stated.

Try another angle bammer fan, that ones been exposed as pointless.

 

[pennstatenut]

LOL at completely destroying that study as being 100% irrelevant to Saban's agenda as I stated.

Try another angle bammer fan, that ones been exposed as pointless.

I admit to stirring the pot a bit but the argument is more plays, not more/less time on the field.