B1G Cancels Season

[Thiefery]

Let it go homies;

 

[trojanfan12]

It would be different, but not that different IMO. There is a HUGE difference the past few years from the ACC and the SEC (FSU falling has been devastating to them). Adding an extra game to the SEC conference schedule, just makes that gap worse IMO.

No it wouldn't. It would put all teams on more even footing as far as scheduling.

When one conference only has 8 conference games and another has 9, the conference takes on 9 additional losses and 9 additional wins. So a .500 record.

The teams in the conference with 8 conference games can schedule teams that basically just add wins to the overall conference record without taking on many, if any additional losses. That makes the conference with 8 conference game look like a stronger conference when it may not be.

Also, the differences in conferences change periodically, especially if the top teams are going through down times.

When Alabama was down, the SEC didn't get near the respect that it does now. During the Pete Carroll era, the PAC was looked at with more respect than what it gets now. If USC is truly on it's way back and Oregon can strong, the respect for the PAC will improve.

The Big 12 is kind of the middle conference as far as respect because of Oklahoma. Imagine the respect it'll get when Texas gets their shit together.

 

[belcherboy]

Were most of y'all around Realignment? GOR rights are ironclad.. with the Big East, ACC and Big12 getting poached it opened a can or worms. Conferences are bound by that ESPECIALLY once the TV money came into play.

This kinda reminds me of kids throwing tantrums when they didn't agree with parents. But I suppose it's a society thing now.. que the what about our rights in 3..2...

All of that occurred when not one person ever thought that they would cancel an entire football season. In my lifetime I would have laughed if you told me that there was a chance that they would cancel the NCAA tournament and multiple Power 5 conferences would cancel their seasons as well.

These conferences can play hard ball, and that is their right, but I see it as a poor PR move. They either need to:

* make a plea to let the players leave for other conferences without penalty (which would kill the conference for few years, but help recruiting so players don't feel trapped if they cancel a season again)

* let the teams play some games in the fall, as long as they are willing to give up their share of potential tv money if the spring season happens.

 

[belcherboy]

No it wouldn't. It would put all teams on more even footing as far as scheduling.

When one conference only has 8 conference games and another has 9, the conference takes on 9 additional losses and 9 additional wins. So a .500 record.

The teams in the conference with 8 conference games can schedule teams that basically just add wins to the overall conference record without taking on many, if any additional losses. That makes the conference with 8 conference game look like a stronger conference when it may not be.

Also, the differences in conferences change periodically, especially if the top teams are going through down times.

When Alabama was down, the SEC didn't get near the respect that it does now. During the Pete Carroll era, the PAC was looked at with more respect than what it gets now. If USC is truly on it's way back and Oregon can strong, the respect for the PAC will improve.

The Big 12 is kind of the middle conference as far as respect because of Oklahoma. Imagine the respect it'll get when Texas gets their shit together.

But what if the bottom of a conference is clearly tougher than another conference? You add another conference game to the top teams, you could impact their ability to be a playoff game because they have a greater chance of losing. That's what I'm saying in comparing the SEC with the ACC right now.

 

[belcherboy]

Exactly!! Granted, just a "conspiracy theory" I had at this point...but unlike most this one isn't so unrealistic.

I hope this happens, but I think I have a better chance of dying from COVID then this becoming a reality.

 

[Thiefery]

All of that occurred when not one person ever thought that they would cancel an entire football season. In my lifetime I would have laughed if you told me that there was a chance that they would cancel the NCAA tournament and multiple Power 5 conferences would cancel their seasons as well.

These conferences can play hard ball, and that is their right, but I see it as a poor PR move. They either need to:

* make a plea to let the players leave for other conferences without penalty (which would kill the conference for few years, but help recruiting so players don't feel trapped if they cancel a season again)

* let the teams play some games in the fall, as long as they are willing to give up their share of potential tv money if the spring season happens.

that's what a GOR is.. they agree to what the CONFERENCE i.e. all schools in the conference vote on. They weren't complaining when they were getting it's 45/50 mil paydays. But them cancelling football is going way too far? The way I see it, the GOR is saving Nebraska from it's teenage impulses.

 

[trojanfan12]

No doubt BIG will look foolish if other 3 conferences play and complete their season.

Fortunately for the PAC-12, I don't thinks there's much they could do to make themselves look more foolish.

 

[Thiefery]

Fortunately for the PAC-12, I don't thinks there's much they could do to make themselves look more foolish.

PAC doesn't.. they actually brought the receipts to why they chose to sit out. a 10 page finding by actual Drs.what did the B16 provide??

 

[CaptainStubing]

i'm hearing a lot of opinions from people within and around the sport that think the student athletes would actually be safer playing, under more adult supervision and doctor care. can't say i really disagree with that. which, begs the question, is there another motive for the big 10 to do this?

 

[trojanfan12]

I don't think anything off the table, but his concerns are real (and of course he isn't the only one who has them).

Absolutely they're real.

Honestly, I think that trying to play 2 football seasons in 1 calendar year would be more dangerous to players than trying to play now with all of the precautions and protocols that were in place.

 

[belcherboy]

that's what a GOR is.. they agree to what the CONFERENCE i.e. all schools in the conference vote on. They weren't complaining when they were getting it's 45/50 mil paydays. But them cancelling football is going way too far? The way I see it, the GOR is saving Nebraska from it's teenage impulses.

I don't think Nebraska will be the only team to do this. They are just the most vocal. Perhaps everyone will walk in step, but I see a few more B10 schools asking for an exemption to play this fall. If Ohio State, Penn St, and/or Michigan make the request, I don't think the B10 will deny it.

My gut (which is full of crap most the time) tells me that Nebraska stands a good chance of playing this fall. I think a few others may do the same. We shall see.

 

[GNG]

Time to play video football.

 

[belcherboy]

i'm hearing a lot of opinions from people within and around the sport that think the student athletes would actually be safer playing, under more adult supervision and doctor care. can't say i really disagree with that. which, begs the question, is there another motive for the big 10 to do this?

The problem I have with these presidents saying that it is about safety is these schools have 10's of thousands of kids coming back to campus. They will have at least some "in person" classes. Are the presidents of these universities not concerned about their health too?

The college teams will have over 100 players, coaches, and staff that will be tested each week, playing against teams that have the same protocol. That tells me that they will be safer than those 10's of thousands of students going to class and living in the dorms without COVID tests each week.

 

[Thiefery]

Time to play video football.

Speak for yourself.. I'll be watching Texas play next month

 

[GNG]

Speak for yourself.. I'll be watching Texas play next month

Good luck with that.

 

[trojanfan12]

PAC doesn't.. they actually brought the receipts to why they chose to sit out. a 10 page finding by actual Drs.what did the B16 provide??

I haven't seen that. Is there a link?

I'd like to see that reasoning because everything I've heard is says that the players are safe with all of the protocols and precautions they have.

Chip Kelly said that they haven't had a positive test since June 7th.

I think USC had 2 positive cases on the football team when testing was first done and none since.

They've only had 9 positive cases throughout all of the fall sports teams. None in at least a month, I believe.

 

[dtgold88]

Fortunately for the PAC-12, I don't thinks there's much they could do to make themselves look more foolish.

So they've got that going for them.

 

[trojanfan12]

So they've got that going for them.

Which is nice.

 

[CaptainStubing]

The problem I have with these presidents saying that it is about safety is these schools have 10's of thousands of kids coming back to campus. They will have at least some "in person" classes. Is the presidents of these universities not concerned about their health too?

The college teams will have over 100 players, coaches, and staff that will be tested each week, playing against teams that have the same protocol. That tells me that they will be safer than those 10's of thousands of students going to class and living in the dorms without COVID tests each week.

agreed. i haven't put my finger on it fully yet but this ultimately has to do with money (as everything always does). one theory i've heard is that the universities didn't want to be open to lawsuits if players caught it and had long term health effects from it.

the other i've heard is that universities started getting nervous about keeping their athletes as unpaid amateurs if they had played their sports during a pandemic. the players would have had all the power in the world and could have made some legal headway.

 

[Thiefery]

I haven't seen that. Is there a link?

I'd like to see that reasoning because everything I've heard is says that the players are safe with all of the protocols and precautions they have.

Chip Kelly said that they haven't had a positive test since June 7th.

I think USC had 2 positive cases on the football team when testing was first done and none since.

They've only had 9 positive cases throughout all of the fall sports teams. None in at least a month, I believe.

no not a link but they are talking about it on First team (siriusXM). Reporter on the line talked about how the PAC had been ready to cancel, and already had a report written from doctors about the possible dangers of playing during the pandemic and the link to myocarditis. It was a 10 page report that it distributed to each of the Presidents and ADs.. which is telling when you don't hear the blowback the way the B16 is getting it at the moment