Question for the real NFL fans here

[msgkings322]

I don't really follow the sport closely, so I have a question for you guys who do.

Every game thread is at least 50% complaining about refereeing. Winning team fans, losing team fans, doesn't matter. It's all serious or snarky takes on the refs and who paid them more, how blind they are, etc. Every drive: refs saved them, refs killed them. Every drive.

And this year, with the Saints no-call debacle, it symbolizes the problem.

So, I get that you grew up watching with your dad, and you have your team and tribe, and you pay close attention so you care what happens. But then the whistle blows and it's all refs this and refs that.

Add in the brain damage, the girl beating, the anthem bullshit....why are you still watching? Anyone plan to make a change after this awful SB?

 

[Fountain City Blues]

I don't really follow the sport closely, so I have a question for you guys who do.

Every game thread is at least 50% complaining about refereeing. Winning team fans, losing team fans, doesn't matter. It's all serious or snarky takes on the refs and who paid them more, how blind they are, etc. Every drive: refs saved them, refs killed them. Every drive.

And this year, with the Saints no-call debacle, it symbolizes the problem.

So, I get that you grew up watching with your dad, and you have your team and tribe, and you pay close attention so you care what happens. But then the whistle blows and it's all refs this and refs that.

Add in the brain damage, the girl beating, the anthem bullshit....why are you still watching? Anyone plan to make a change after this awful SB?

It's really no different when fans bitch about balls and strikes.

 

[steelerssb]

It's really no different when fans bitch about balls and strikes.

MLB still employs Angel Hernandez

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

I don't really follow the sport closely, so I have a question for you guys who do.

Every game thread is at least 50% complaining about refereeing. Winning team fans, losing team fans, doesn't matter. It's all serious or snarky takes on the refs and who paid them more, how blind they are, etc. Every drive: refs saved them, refs killed them. Every drive.

And this year, with the Saints no-call debacle, it symbolizes the problem.

So, I get that you grew up watching with your dad, and you have your team and tribe, and you pay close attention so you care what happens. But then the whistle blows and it's all refs this and refs that.

Add in the brain damage, the girl beating, the anthem bullshit....why are you still watching? Anyone plan to make a change after this awful SB?

I didn't think the Super Bowl was awful at all, I like good defense, I found it refreshing...

 

[Fountain City Blues]

MLB still employs Angel Hernandez

That dude is a fucking meme, it's great. (until it screws over my beloved Royals, then I am salty)

 

[msgkings322]

It's really no different when fans bitch about balls and strikes.

Really? So there are endless threads for weeks after some ump makes a few bad strike calls? You really don't see the difference? People are still talking about the 'tuck rule' for pete's sake

 

[Fountain City Blues]

This SB was awful, completely awful; it being competitive is its only saving grace. The Pats D was the only consistently fun thing about the game. The Rams D only showed up for a half despite what the score says. Both offenses played like garbage, making it easier than it was for the D's.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Really? So there are endless threads for weeks after some ump makes a few bad strike calls? You really don't see the difference? People are still talking about the 'tuck rule' for pete's sake

They are more scarce in football (due to plays, not quality). In Baseball you got what? 250 pitches a night? Nobody fucking remembers all the shitty calls by the ump. They do remember the obvious PI on their screen.

 

[Clayton]

I didn't think the Super Bowl was awful at all, I like good defense, I found it refreshing...

Yeah, this was basically the opposite of last year's game. Which is good and bad in its own unique ways.

I have way, way, way, way, way more issues with college football than the NFL.

 

[msgkings322]

They are more scarce in football (due to plays, not quality). In Baseball you got what? 250 pitches a night? Nobody fucking remembers all the shitty calls by the ump. They do remember the obvious PI on their screen.

Kind of making my point for me. Refs matter too much.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Kind of making my point for me. Refs matter too much.

Can't you say the same for umps though with high and low strikes? Seems to be the same phenomenon presenting itself. Some refs call holding more than others. Some umps call higher strikes than others.

We have a zillion Robo-umps comments with baseball every year. Those can change PA's dramatically.

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

Yeah, this was basically the opposite of last year's game. Which is good and bad in its own unique ways.

I have way, way, way, way, way more issues with college football than the NFL.

NO doubt, last years Super Bowl had like 1,400 yards of offense between the 2 teams, it was insane.... I would prefer this style of game every time I watch football, I love seeing offenses earn points, not just run up and down the field on each other...

 

[msgkings322]

Can't you say the same for umps though with high and low strikes? Seems to be the same phenomenon presenting itself. Some refs call holding more than others. Some umps call higher strikes than others.

We have a zillion Robo-umps comments with baseball every year. Those can change PA's dramatically.

I guess we disagree then.

 

[Southieinnc]

I don't really follow the sport closely, so I have a question for you guys who do.

Every game thread is at least 50% complaining about refereeing. Winning team fans, losing team fans, doesn't matter. It's all serious or snarky takes on the refs and who paid them more, how blind they are, etc. Every drive: refs saved them, refs killed them. Every drive.

And this year, with the Saints no-call debacle, it symbolizes the problem.

So, I get that you grew up watching with your dad, and you have your team and tribe, and you pay close attention so you care what happens. But then the whistle blows and it's all refs this and refs that.

Add in the brain damage, the girl beating, the anthem bullshit....why are you still watching? Anyone plan to make a change after this awful SB?

Go Patriots!!!!!

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

What annoys me really about any sport (MLB/NFL especially, NBA flopping is out of control though) is we have the technology to remove a LARGE part of the human element of error.

For MLB: The computer strikezone is EXTREMELY accurate, and at least we all know it plays fair whether it misses a call 0.001% of the time. And there's none of that 'makeup' shit when an ump clearly blows it. Have the fat fuck ump still stand back there with an earpiece and he can call the computer communication for the 70+ year old fucks out there that whine about tradition.

As for NFL: I HARDLY expect 7 refs to be able to monitor all 22 guys running 4.4s, stretch the field or in a mass pile of 10 fatass 300 lb men with hands everywhere when most plays are happening in 3-10 seconds. Fuckin' kidding me? BUT, we have TONS of high def camera angles that capture just about everything that are able to see it. So why in the fuck are we relying on the human eye from 7 guys to catch everything?

I can hardly blame refs from any sport a hard time anymore, because with all the HD and camera angles + tech we have today EVERYONE sees it. So I tend to get annoyed with people blaming the refs.

Who I DO blame is those organizations for not coming up with a better fucking way to review something that has a HUGE monetary impact on individuals let alone Championship chances for a team.

 

[msgkings322]

Go Patriots!!!!!

Yes. Please just go.

 

[steelerssb]

I think most NFL fans would agree the refs are an issue that needs resolved. Incompetence, lack of accountability and what is and isn't reviewable should be changed. Not unlike baseball in that regard, really.

But I do think the thing holding the NFL refs back is asinine rules. Too many judgment calls, too much complexity, not enough common sense, just stupid rules, etc. Not enough full-time officials.

 

[Southieinnc]

Yes. Please just go.

Go Red Sox!

 

[Chewbaccer]

I don't really follow the sport closely, so I have a question for you guys who do.

Every game thread is at least 50% complaining about refereeing. Winning team fans, losing team fans, doesn't matter. It's all serious or snarky takes on the refs and who paid them more, how blind they are, etc. Every drive: refs saved them, refs killed them. Every drive.

And this year, with the Saints no-call debacle, it symbolizes the problem.

So, I get that you grew up watching with your dad, and you have your team and tribe, and you pay close attention so you care what happens. But then the whistle blows and it's all refs this and refs that.

Add in the brain damage, the girl beating, the anthem bullshit....why are you still watching? Anyone plan to make a change after this awful SB?

Refs are bitched about in every sport.

I've lived in rural Georgia my entire life. Football isn't a sport here, it's a religion.

 

[msgkings322]

I think most NFL fans would agree the refs are an issue that needs resolved. Incompetence, lack of accountability and what is and isn't reviewable should be changed. Not unlike baseball in that regard, really.

But I do think the thing holding the NFL refs back is asinine rules. Too many judgment calls, too much complexity, not enough common sense, just stupid rules, etc. Not enough full-time officials.

Exactly my point, which is why I don't understand how more fans aren't like me (generally detached)