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TheDayMan

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That is correct, with an *. I (and most fans) gave him credit in '84 when they were robbed of the title and it was given to BYU on the backs of a completely bullshit schedule. He didn't fully ascend until '91. That's how it is.

Those were different times though. You had to reach a consensus #1 on a major poll. Now you have to reach at least 4 and win to playoff games. Which is an easier path?

Yes it was a different time, the point is, to repeat what I said in a thread on the team board, a lot of expectations for the program seem to be based on only the best years of Don James, not the reality of his tenure, there were a lot of 7 and 8 win teams sprinkled in there, again different time, if you want to call those 8 and 9 win teams today to account for an extra scrub game, the point still stands.

I get some criticism to this point, but he's absolutely proven himself as far as I'm concerned. In 5 years he's already met your criteria minus winning a national championship. Personally I'm okay with waiting for that.
 

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That is correct, with an *. I (and most fans) gave him credit in '84 when they were robbed of the title and it was given to BYU on the backs of a completely bullshit schedule. He didn't fully ascend until '91. That's how it is.

Those were different times though. You had to reach a consensus #1 on a major poll. Now you have to reach at least 4 and win to playoff games. Which is an easier path?

Well and back in the day NC’s weren’t (at least to people I grew up with) as important as the Rose Bowl. The Rose Bowl was a game every conference envied.
 

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Yes it was a different time, the point is, to repeat what I said in a thread on the team board, a lot of expectations for the program seem to be based on only the best years of Don James, not the reality of his tenure, there were a lot of 7 and 8 win teams sprinkled in there, again different time, if you want to call those 8 and 9 win teams today to account for an extra scrub game, the point still stands.

I get some criticism to this point, but he's absolutely proven himself as far as I'm concerned. In 5 years he's already met your criteria minus winning a national championship. Personally I'm okay with waiting for that.
I don't know why you've latched onto this because if you look again at what I first said it was merely he hasn't yet reached that level. I'm not outraged or pissed off he isn't there yet. It's not like he's been here for 20 years. It's not like they aren't doing some good things.

I simply said he hasn't yet reached that level. Why is that so bad? he has room for doing even more. We aren't missing the playoffs because they can't find talent. They are missing it because he's bringing in a project OC to replace the disaster OC and he can't/won't do anything about Jake.
 

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Pacific Takes Pac-12 bowl projections 10.24.18: Washington schools take conference’s best bowl slots

Rose Bowl - Washington vs. Ohio State - I think the Huskies have the best schedule for getting to the Rose Bowl. They get Stanford at home, don’t have any true trap games and close at Washington State, who they still match up very well against. We’ll put them in Pasadena for now.

Alamo Bowl - Washington State vs. West Virginia - I think the Cougars drop two more, but that leaves them with just three loses and sends Mike Leach back to Texas to take on a Big 12 foe.

Holiday Bowl - Utah vs. Iowa - The Utes are the hottest team in the Pac-12 right now, but they’re in the midst of a brutal schedule and will probably drop another game or two. San Diego will be a nice landing spot.

Redbox Bowl - Oregon vs. Michigan State - The Ducks came crashing down in Pullman, but the good news is I think they only lose one the rest of the way and that should put them in a decent bowl.

Sun Bowl - Stanford vs. Virginia Tech - The Cardinal have been sliding, and while I think they recover to an extent, their November schedule isn’t easy and they should fall to the bottom of the Pac-12 North leader board.

Las Vegas Bowl - USC vs. San Diego State - Not sure if Clay Helton will be around for this trip to Vegas. The Trojans could end up here even if they win the South with how many loses they might stack up and if they’re dealing with firing a coach.

Cheez-It Bowl - Colorado vs. Iowa State - The Buffs are through the toughest part of their schedule and now need to win just one more to confirm a bowl game.
Don't be surprised to see Washington vs utah in the Pac 12 CCG
 

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Don't be surprised to see Washington vs utah in the Pac 12 CCG
Just do your part and take care of Oregon and then we'll talk.

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Or possibly Utah versus another team from the state of Washington.
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Screw OU we need to beat the teams in the South
You do know the team with the best overall conf record gets it right? You need to beat OU just as much as the others as the only team likely to be able to catch you the Utes have already played and hold the tiebreaker on.
 

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You do know the team with the best overall conf record gets it right? You need to beat OU just as much as the others as the only team likely to be able to catch you the Utes have already played and hold the tiebreaker on.
Right
 

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Then tell douchebag Scott that since both of us have beat them that the South is disqualified. About the only way the CCG would be a sellout is if both of our schools played in it since we are the only schools in the conference that travel.
 

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TBH if Washington doesn't win the North I wouldn't mind seeing a Wazu vs Utah rematch in the PACCG. New blood for once.
 
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