Urban Meyer...

[socaljim242]

If this shit is true, I think he should keep his job.

<cap tip to @Shanemansj13>

And I'm sure the husband was Mother Teresa right. There's two people in this. One is a woman who does sound like shes crazy in a lot of actions and if you only get the story from people who don't want Urban to lose his job. No doubt shes got issues. But what about the husband who was abusing his wife?Everyone says why didn't she leave? Like no one has ever heard that sometimes women don't leave abusive relationships . Shes nuts and he beats her is probably the simplest explanation. But Urban put this guy on his staff twice knowing this guy was an abusive husband. We can all say well he never saw it actually happen. Like that would stop many of you if your sister showed up with a bruises saying her husband hit her.
A report from December 2017 said that Zach Smith was served with a trespass warning after showing up at his ex-wife’s house drunk at 1:30 a.m.. The report stated that Courtney Smith was asleep, but Zach Smith was seen by a neighbor, and he appeared drunk, was banging on windows, and threw a Christmas wreath on the door to the ground.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

And I'm sure the husband was Mother Teresa right. There's two people in this. One is a woman who does sound like shes crazy in a lot of actions and if you only get the story from people who don't want Urban to lose his job. No doubt shes got issues. But what about the husband who was abusing his wife?Everyone says why didn't she leave? Like no one has ever heard that sometimes women don't leave abusive relationships . Shes nuts and he beats her is probably the simplest explanation. But Urban put this guy on his staff twice knowing this guy was an abusive husband. We can all say well he never saw it actually happen. Like that would stop many of you if your sister showed up with a bruises saying her husband hit her.
A report from December 2017 said that Zach Smith was served with a trespass warning after showing up at his ex-wife’s house drunk at 1:30 a.m.. The report stated that Courtney Smith was asleep, but Zach Smith was seen by a neighbor, and he appeared drunk, was banging on windows, and threw a Christmas wreath on the door to the ground.

TL;DR

Why do you hate paragraphs?

 

[socaljim242]

TL;DR

Why do you hate paragraphs?

When I get on a roll I just keep going. My GF is a stenographer. Pisses her off too. lol

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

When I get on a roll I just keep going. My GF is a stenographer. Pisses her off too. lol

Yeah, I'm not trying to be a dick, it's just that a big chuck of stream of consciousness type comments can be difficult to read, and I'm a little hungover and just don't feel like fucking with it.

Based on the first sentence, I can kind of guess the gist of your post. If the dude was routinely beating his wife and Urban Meyer was aware of it, I would think he should be fired. I'm not sure that's the case, though.

 

[BamaDude]

This whole thing is a joke. This has nothing to do with Urban Meyer. He's not responsible for whatever happens between two other married adults behind closed doors. You're half right & all wrong. While it is true that normal relations behind closed doors are no one's business other than those participating; once it comes to Meyer's knowledge that abuse is taking place, it is his responsibility to report it. That's their business, not his. And it's this lady's fault for staying in the relationship for so many years. Not Urban Meyer's. This lady is pathetic and only has herself to blame for the decisions she'd made in life. Hell, even the cops never charged the guy with anything. Because Urban & his staff wanted to keep things on the down-low & encouraged her not to press charges. And he continued to employ the culprit.

But yeah, let's blame Urban Meyer for some lady's poor life decisions. Meyer is about as responsible for that as the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus are. Meyer isn't responsible for the actual beatings that took place, but if he or his wife had reported the ongoing abuse, maybe Smith would have gotten help to overcome his anger issues or been put behind bars where he could no longer do any harm. Maybe we should hold them accountable too? I can't stop LMFAO at this logical fallacy and all the fake outrage by the mental midget, libtard, Ohio State haters.

Beat your wife much, douche bag?

 

[Bayou Tiger]

in fact he will probably get a raise for keeping it "quite"

Keeping it quite what?

 

[it'sHuskers4me]

Something tells me the only thing you are beating is your own little pud....and even that is a struggle for you.

Not me, I wear readers!

 

[ellupo]

Keeping it quite what?

Yeah confuses me too. Cops were involved a bunch of times. If that is keep it quiet I dont need Meyer working for me.

 

[it'sHuskers4me]

Fine bum is still bitter about that book flop I see.

 

[socaljim242]

Yeah, I'm not trying to be a dick, it's just that a big chuck of stream of consciousness type comments can be difficult to read, and I'm a little hungover and just don't feel like fucking with it.

Based on the first sentence, I can kind of guess the gist of your post. If the dude was routinely beating his wife and Urban Meyer was aware of it, I would think he should be fired. I'm not sure that's the case, though.

Well there's the 100% proof you need in a court of law and then there's just common sense that this guy was probably more trouble than he was worth. When you're the head coach you're responsible for the type of people you hire just like you're responsible for the type of players you bring in. I just think he's the kind of guy most people wouldn't want around.

 

[Inquisitor95]

Again, it's just your own mods doing that and it's out of habit. Shaggy hasn't put any kind of rule down on that. Pac12 v5 still isn't 'locked', but we just moved on out of habit.

Someone needs to stand up to the man and be a rebel ffs. 11k or die!

Ah okay, I must have misunderstood then.

Hammer told us on the mod board that the limitation that slowed the board down with threads much longer than 10k wasn't a thing anymore, but he was a bit of a control freak so they kept getting locked.

I say light one of those fuckers up and see how far we can go until it burns this bitch down to the ground!

The Night Shift threads only get locked these days so @gobigred can have something to do as a mod.

Just a booster for his self-esteem.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Well there's the 100% proof you need in a court of law and then there's just common sense that this guy was probably more trouble than he was worth. When you're the head coach you're responsible for the type of people you hire just like you're responsible for the type of players you bring in. I just think he's the kind of guy most people wouldn't want around.

You could be right, but I don't have enough info to make that determination.

One of the bullet points on the list was that both Zach and Courtney Smith are drunks and crazy. Certainly not the kind of guy you'd like around, but given the personal connection, I could understand why Meyer might keep Smith around (provided he wasn't beating his wife).

 

[Bayou Tiger]

This whole thing is a joke. This has nothing to do with Urban Meyer. He's not responsible for whatever happens between two other married adults behind closed doors. That's their business, not his. And it's this lady's fault for staying in the relationship for so many years. Not Urban Meyer's. This lady is pathetic and only has herself to blame for the decisions she'd made in life. Hell, even the cops never charged the guy with anything.

But yeah, let's blame Urban Meyer for some lady's poor life decisions. Meyer is about as responsible for that as the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus are. Maybe we should hold them accountable too? I can't stop LMFAO at this logical fallacy and all the fake outrage by the mental midget, libtard, Ohio State haters.

This is so silly it boggles the mind. Maybe, just maybe, Meyer felt addressing the issue without all the facts would get him in trouble too.


Poor guy is trying to compete in the high stress environs of college football coaching.....and is expected to babysit his fellow employees. That doesn't make sense.

Why is the A.D. not ultimately the one to blame if we are assigning blame here to other parties instead of the two freaking adults in the relationship? Why does he get a pass?


I'm beginning to lean towards the fact she may have earned her beatings...

 

[indy1]

And I'm sure the husband was Mother Teresa right. There's two people in this. One is a woman who does sound like shes crazy in a lot of actions and if you only get the story from people who don't want Urban to lose his job. No doubt shes got issues. But what about the husband who was abusing his wife?Everyone says why didn't she leave? Like no one has ever heard that sometimes women don't leave abusive relationships . Shes nuts and he beats her is probably the simplest explanation. But Urban put this guy on his staff twice knowing this guy was an abusive husband. We can all say well he never saw it actually happen. Like that would stop many of you if your sister showed up with a bruises saying her husband hit her.
A report from December 2017 said that Zach Smith was served with a trespass warning after showing up at his ex-wife’s house drunk at 1:30 a.m.. The report stated that Courtney Smith was asleep, but Zach Smith was seen by a neighbor, and he appeared drunk, was banging on windows, and threw a Christmas wreath on the door to the ground.

Just a minor disagreement with your statement in bold. The first time he put him on staff obviously he would have had no knowledge since the first episode didn't occur until after he was on staff. The second time, he knew about the incident in 2009 but even Courtney states there were no other incidents between that and him being hired at Ohio State. He could have thought it was a one time thing.

Otherwise I agree with everything you said.

 

[7Samurai13]

This is so silly it boggles the mind. Maybe, just maybe, Meyer felt addressing the issue without all the facts would get him in trouble too.


Poor guy is trying to compete in the high stress environs of college football coaching.....and is expected to babysit his fellow employees. That doesn't make sense.

Why is the A.D. not ultimately the one to blame if we are assigning blame here to other parties instead of the two freaking adults in the relationship? Why does he get a pass?


I'm beginning to lean towards the fact she may have earned her beatings...

I nearly went to jail last night.

Yesterday was my dad’s birthday and he would have been 62. He bounced between Kentucky and Michigan his whole childhood.
I come home from work.

Wife - What are you cooking for dinner?
Me - Fried Chicken
W - I don’t want that.
M - I can make cilantro lime Salmon.
W - I don’t want that either.
M - we’ll when you get done working let me know what you do want.
W an hour later - Let’s get Popeye’s.

This will be what sends me to prison for a long time.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Well there's the 100% proof you need in a court of law and then there's just common sense that this guy was probably more trouble than he was worth. When you're the head coach you're responsible for the type of people you hire just like you're responsible for the type of players you bring in. I just think he's the kind of guy most people wouldn't want around.

And, everyone needs to remember that this is not a court of law. All OSU needs is enough evidence to make a connection between the Ex-Wife's claims of abuse, and Urban knowing what was going on. That's all. The fact that his wife has been proven to know 100% is the only connection they really need to fire with cause, if they should decide to do so.

Now, if Urban is fired with cause, and he chooses to fight this in court and recoup the money he's owed on the contract, the burden of proof may be a bit different in that court of law, but even still...I'd wager to say that any judge/jury would say that it is very reasonable to expect that any kind of major incident, like the one involved, would not be communicated between husband and wife, especially a coupe purported to be as close as they are, and as involved as she is with their football program and OSU as an employee. People also have to remember that the OSU code of conduct is very broad in requiring not only the report of actual abuse, but even suspected abuse/sexual misconduct. The fact that Urban knew about the guys' history would be a huge factor in this area, should he decide to sue OSU.

The last point that matters is did Urban break any law/rule/code by not reporting the incidents, and the answer to that is yes. He broke Title IX, OSU's code of conduct, and his own contract. He is in breech of all 3, which would give OSU more than enough reason to fire him with cause, should they deem that he knew.

I personally think that the only thing we are waiting on is OSU to determine if they can hold out long enough to save Meyer's job. My guess is that IF he gets canned, it will not only be due to the PR pressure, and logical conclusions that he knew, but because this actually goes higher up than just Urban knowing and they are trying to save this from being a full-blown institutional failure. That, of course, is based on the information that has come out stating that there was a rumored "investigation" into this matter by OSU some time ago, but they never interviewed the Ex-Wife, which would show negligence at best, and a full blown cover-up at worst. Though, more information would be needed on this part, clearly.

 

[socaljim242]

Just a minor disagreement with your statement in bold. The first time he put him on staff obviously he would have had no knowledge since the first episode didn't occur until after he was on staff. The second time, he knew about the incident in 2009 but even Courtney states there were no other incidents between that and him being hired at Ohio State. He could have thought it was a one time thing.

Otherwise I agree with everything you said.

Ok but after the first time in Florida you have all those incidents listed above going on in Columbus involving his wife and I'm sure they left out some that the husband did and you constantly hear about these two getting into it with each other and you never bring it up, have them either go to counseling or something with the threat of being fired.
The coaches all hang out and the wives do too. It sounds like there was plenty of knowledge about this couples toxic relationship. Is the bar only at getting arrested? That's the only time you step in as his boss?

 

[psaboy]

Who's that in your avi with the lopsided boobs? I wanna look up her nudes.

Sorry, that is Mrs. Psaboy

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

The last point that matters is did Urban break any law/rule/code by not reporting the incidents, and the answer to that is yes. He broke Title IX, OSU's code of conduct, and his own contract.

That's assuming he didn't report the incidents.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Sorry, that is Mrs. Psaboy

Of course it isn't!