10,000 Posts for a Flyers Cup in 2019

[lasgop8]

Here we go its Monday morning and Hexy the best you can do is only JVR. Cmon get into the game bro.

I dont mind the JVR signing if he can score 30 for us that would be great. If he doesn't we go 5 more years with an overrated player.

For everyone who has him on the second line. One of the stories posted last week said he wasn't good enough to play on Toronto's second line so they pushed him to the third line where he got all his stats against third liners.

Produce and i will be happy, dont and he will get ripped.

 

[lasgop8]

So as We slowly watch players drift away to other teams we can assume Hexy is done. The JVR signing is ok, I don't see it doing much by the way of pushing us to a cup. I hope some of these kids can produce sooner than later. I just hope we can get past the 1st rd this year.

Hexy watches as others teams get better and we sign 1 player. I really hope we can do something this season but its unlikely as other teams got better

 

[lasgop8]

Flyers get their 'fit all around,' but is that enough?

 

[lasgop8]

So if they are done..

Giroux-Couturier-Konecny
JvR-Patrick-Voracek
Lindblom- ? - Simmonds
Raffl - ? - ?

Ghost-Provorov
Hagg-MacDonald
Sanheim-Gudas
?

Elliot
Neuvy

Looks to be the firm spots in the lineup.

Laughton, Lehtera, Weiss, Weal, Leier all NHL guys last year.

Aube-Kubel, Vechionne, Vorobyov, Myers, Morin*, and Frost I would say are the youngsters with the best shot. Morin obviously hurt, let’s see if Frost gets more of a look after not adding anyone and being a little bigger than expected at dev camp.

Also wonder if they start talking about Bardreau again. He was talked about a lot last summer as a bottom 6 guy that can PK, maybe that gets more of a look this season.

Still not a good bottom 6 no matter which of the current Flyers we add into those spots with question marks.

 

[Chris p Bacon]

Here we go its Monday morning and Hexy the best you can do is only JVR. Cmon get into the game bro.

I dont mind the JVR signing if he can score 30 for us that would be great. If he doesn't we go 5 more years with an overrated player.

For everyone who has him on the second line. One of the stories posted last week said he wasn't good enough to play on Toronto's second line so they pushed him to the third line where he got all his stats against third liners.

Produce and i will be happy, dont and he will get ripped.

I saw this to, but I'm hoping our players are better than Toronto's. I want JVR to succeed but If Hexy stands pat then he failed Free Agency. There are still too many holes in this team and unless some youngsters step up, I just don't see it. How have we greatly improved from last year?

 

[Chris p Bacon]

Still not a good bottom 6 no matter which of the current Flyers we add into those spots with question marks.

And you can take Ian Cole off the list, He's an AV now!

 

[lasgop8]

I saw this to, but I'm hoping our players are better than Toronto's. I want JVR to succeed but If Hexy stands pat then he failed Free Agency. There are still too many holes in this team and unless some youngsters step up, I just don't see it. How have we greatly improved from last year?

I am greatly unimpressed unless he has a trade to make us better. Otherwise another year of 1st round and out.

 

[lasgop8]

And you can take Ian Cole off the list, He's an AV now!

Great more good news.

 

[Chris p Bacon]

I am greatly unimpressed unless he has a trade to make us better. Otherwise another year of 1st round and out.

Well I'm going to believe in the growth of this team, However if your bringing in JVR to make this team better now then I'm lost, he is def not a game changing player, I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens.

 

[Chris p Bacon]

Flyers reportedly among possible trade destinations for Artemi Panarin

Come on Hexy, this would be a home run!!

 

[awaz]

Still not a good bottom 6 no matter which of the current Flyers we add into those spots with question marks.

As I've said all summer, I'm definitely worried about 3C. But Lindblom and Simmonds are good 3rd line wingers. Hextall left the door open a little more this weekend than he did earlier this summer regarding Frost. If he takes the 3C spot in camp and your free to use Raffl-Laughton-Leier as your 4th line again, that could be a solid bottom 6. Obviously that relies on Frost being good. Hextall also mentioned using Weal at C, which was a little surprising. But maybe Weal is your stop gap 3C.

I don't think Frost or Weal are ideal for 3C, but you can put together a solid 5/6ths of a bottom 6 with what the Flyers have IMO. Just happen to be missing the most important 1/6 of that.

 

[awaz]

Well I'm going to believe in the growth of this team, However if your bringing in JVR to make this team better now then I'm lost, he is def not a game changing player, I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens.

I disagree with you a bit on that. He's not a carry the team type player, but those guys aren't available. Hextall said he made a pitch to Tavares (who is) and it didn't work. And obviously it wasn't about contract considering Tavares left 2M/yr on the table to go to Toronto, according to reports.

JvR would've led the Flyers in goals last year and would've been 5th in points. That's a major upgrade. He was the 2nd best UFA this year.

 

[lasgop8]

As I've said all summer, I'm definitely worried about 3C. But Lindblom and Simmonds are good 3rd line wingers. Hextall left the door open a little more this weekend than he did earlier this summer regarding Frost. If he takes the 3C spot in camp and your free to use Raffl-Laughton-Leier as your 4th line again, that could be a solid bottom 6. Obviously that relies on Frost being good. Hextall also mentioned using Weal at C, which was a little surprising. But maybe Weal is your stop gap 3C.

I don't think Frost or Weal are ideal for 3C, but you can put together a solid 5/6ths of a bottom 6 with what the Flyers have IMO. Just happen to be missing the most important 1/6 of that.

Lets say its Weal as our third line center since we know Hexy doesn't rush players to the bigs. Are we really that much better than last year on the bottom 6? We also still have a terrible penalty kill that hasn't been addressed. That was a killer last year in many games.

 

[awaz]

For everyone who has him on the second line. One of the stories posted last week said he wasn't good enough to play on Toronto's second line so they pushed him to the third line where he got all his stats against third liners.

Produce and i will be happy, dont and he will get ripped.

Babcock took advantage of his skill set. He's an offensive first guy that plays limited defense. If Hakstol is smart, he will do the same thing. Because if he puts him with Patrick and Voracek on the '2nd line', he should be trying to get them away from defense first matchups. Not doing so is being a bad coach. Put your players in a position to succeed, don't play JvR against 1st and 2nd lines where he'd have to play defense (his weakest attribute). Get him out there against 3rd and 4th lines.

 

[Chris p Bacon]

I disagree with you a bit on that. He's not a carry the team type player, but those guys aren't available. Hextall said he made a pitch to Tavares (who is) and it didn't work. And obviously it wasn't about contract considering Tavares left 2M/yr on the table to go to Toronto, according to reports.

JvR would've led the Flyers in goals last year and would've been 5th in points. That's a major upgrade. He was the 2nd best UFA this year.

Your assuming he scored that many with the Flyers? Even so he wouldn't have made us contenders,(no goalie) I just think we have a real good opportunity to make a serious splash if we don't end up with Panarin to me it's sad, were supposed to be the team with the brightest outlook.

 

[awaz]

Lets say its Weal as our third line center since we know Hexy doesn't rush players to the bigs. Are we really that much better than last year on the bottom 6? We also still have a terrible penalty kill that hasn't been addressed. That was a killer last year in many games.

Weal-Filpula-Simmonds
Lehtera-Laughton-Raffl

vs

Lindblom-Weal-Simmonds
Raffl-Laughton-Leier
(would be my group if it were up to me and Weal was the 3C as you say).

First, I think Lindblom is a significant upgrade over Filpula for the 3rd line. Game changingly so? Probably not, but still an upgrade. And 2nd, Leier for Lehtera is an upgrade too. One they could have, and should have, taken advantage of last year, but perhaps Hak will be a year wiser this year.

 

[awaz]

Your assuming he scored that many with the Flyers? Even so he wouldn't have made us contenders,(no goalie) I just think we have a real good opportunity to make a serious splash if we don't end up with Panarin to me it's sad, were supposed to be the team with the brightest outlook.

Absolutely I am. He played with Marner (69pts) and Bozak(43pts) mostly last year. Assuming he plays with Patrick (30pts, but we expect good growth) and Voracek (85pts), his linemates will be at least as good. I'll be disappointed if "his linemates are significantly better than last year" isn't something we're saying by about November.

As for Panarin, I agree, I would love to have him. But the cost to have him is much higher than signing JvR. According to the CBJ GM, he's looking for a 'now' trade if they move him. So the prospect pool isn't much help unless you use a guy you think is NHL ready. To me, the starting point if I'm Columbus is Sanheim and Simmonds for Panarin. And I probably want more than that. He's one of the best players in the league. So are the Flyers better with JvR, Sanheim, and Simmonds or with Panarin and JvR (assuming you still sign him)?

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[awaz]

Lets say its Weal as our third line center since we know Hexy doesn't rush players to the bigs. Are we really that much better than last year on the bottom 6? We also still have a terrible penalty kill that hasn't been addressed. That was a killer last year in many games.

Part 2 of this, the PK. As I've mentioned before, the PK struggles are a coaching thing to me. You can add all the PK specialist you want, if the coach is telling them to leave guys unmarked at the front of the net to cover passing lanes instead, your PK is going to suck. And I fully believe Lappy is telling them that. It happens FAR too often for that not to be the case.

Couturier, Giroux, Simmonds, Laughton, AMac, Hagg, Gudas, Provorov have the makings for a formidable PK group. Add Leier and Raffl as potentially good at it guys. Add Morin in the spring. They have the personnel to have at least a decent PK.

They just don't have the coach.

 

[Chris p Bacon]

Absolutely I am. He played with Marner (69pts) and Bozak(43pts) mostly last year. Assuming he plays with Patrick (30pts, but we expect good growth) and Voracek (85pts), his linemates will be at least as good. I'll be disappointed if "his linemates are significantly better than last year" isn't something we're saying by about November.

As for Panarin, I agree, I would love to have him. But the cost to have him is much higher than signing JvR. According to the CBJ GM, he's looking for a 'now' trade if they move him. So the prospect pool isn't much help unless you use a guy you think is NHL ready. To me, the starting point if I'm Columbus is Sanheim and Simmonds for Panarin. And I probably want more than that. He's one of the best players in the league. So are the Flyers better with JvR, Sanheim, and Simmonds or with Panarin and JvR (assuming you still sign him)?

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I think your better off with him, You still need to address some serious concerns at D to, so either way We'd have to start relying more heavily on our talent pool, Shit they got a great deal for Bob, they owe us one lol.

 

[lasgop8]

Weal-Filpula-Simmonds
Lehtera-Laughton-Raffl

vs

Lindblom-Weal-Simmonds
Raffl-Laughton-Leier
(would be my group if it were up to me and Weal was the 3C as you say).

First, I think Lindblom is a significant upgrade over Filpula for the 3rd line. Game changingly so? Probably not, but still an upgrade. And 2nd, Leier for Lehtera is an upgrade too. One they could have, and should have, taken advantage of last year, but perhaps Hak will be a year wiser this year.

Unless Lindblom gets much better in his second year he will not be a significantly better player than Filpula as he was a very good defensive forward which he doesn't get credit for. He also had 33 points to Linbloms 6 so id say Lindblom as you say will be significantly better is a huge reach. Even though i cant stand Lehtera i still think he and Leier are even as players so i dont see us getting better in that spot either.