Shaq SHOULD have been GOAT if he had the work ethic of MJ

[DorianRo]

Or a Moses Malone.

Would everyone agree?

 

[trojanfan12]

Pretty much everyone has agreed with this over the years. Including Shaq.

But hey, at least you made an unnecessary thread to tell us what we already knew.

 

[broncosmitty]

I do not agree.

 

[msgkings322]

He would definitely have made top 5. At that point where you rank him depends on a lot on 'ships which of course are a team accomplishment.

 

[The Q]

He’d still be the goat if the NBA called his games by the rule book.

It just would’ve been a boring and completely unwatchable product.

But it proves the nba is sports entertainment, not pure sport.

 

[msgkings322]

He’d still be the goat if the NBA called his games by the rule book.

It just would’ve been a boring and completely unwatchable product.

But it proves the nba is sports entertainment, not pure sport.

Name a professional sport that is 'pure sport' and not entertainment

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Pretty much everyone has agreed with this over the years. Including Shaq.

But hey, at least you made an unnecessary thread to tell us what we already knew.

This is the best we've gotten from him so far so i'll take it

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

But yes. If he worked out a bit more, stayed in better shape, and cared more about winning championships than a bigger paycheck, he would/could have been a top 3 player

 

[SU Nittany Tide]

He’d still be the goat if the NBA called his games by the rule book.

It just would’ve been a boring and completely unwatchable product.

But it proves the nba is sports entertainment, not pure sport.

I don't really understand this comment. He dropped his shoulder and plowed the defender over without a call countless times in his career. If they called that by the rule book it would have really hurt his game.

 

[The Q]

I don't really understand this comment. He dropped his shoulder and plowed the defender over without a call countless times in his career. If they called that by the rule book it would have really hurt his game.

Nope. A those guys pushing and leaning on him tying to defend the entry pass would’ve fouled out by halftime.

You’d have points guards on him before the 4th qtr.

 

[SU Nittany Tide]

Nope. A those guys pushing and leaning on him tying to defend the entry pass would’ve fouled out by halftime.

You’d have points guards on him before the 4th qtr.

I guess fouls only count one way? Point guards wouldn't have to guard him because he'd be on the bench too.

 

[The Q]

I guess fouls only count one way? Point guards wouldn't have to guard him because he'd be on the bench too.

Because very few plays would actually occur. And most of those plays that people like you whine about are flops are blocking fouls.

But you missed the point. Most of the entry passes wouldn’t even finish because of all the fouls. The amount of life’s touches he’d get would be lower and most of them would be in unfuardably deep position because teams couldn’t push and lean on him.

 

[SU Nittany Tide]

Because very few plays would actually occur. And most of those plays that people like you whine about are flops are blocking fouls.

But you missed the point. Most of the entry passes wouldn’t even finish because of all the fouls. The amount of life’s touches he’d get would be lower and most of them would be in unfuardably deep position because teams couldn’t push and lean on him.

A behemoth of a man dropping his shoulder and plowing over a defender isn't a flop. Give me a break.

 

[The Q]

A behemoth of a man dropping his shoulder and plowing over a defender isn't a flop. Give me a break.

Alright.

Next.

 

[GNG]

Or a Moses Malone.

Would everyone agree?

I don't.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

I don't.

Why? Because you're not old enough to have seen him play?

 

[desert heat]

jordan worship aside, i'm sure shaq did work hard. all world class athletes do.

shaq was not as athletic as chamberlain, or skilled as jabbar.

 

[trojanfan12]

jordan worship aside, i'm sure shaq did work hard. all world class athletes do.

shaq was not as athletic as chamberlain, or skilled as jabbar.

Shaq worked hard during the season. But he was notorious for being lazy and letting himself get out of shape and overweight in the off-season. It's something that even he admits.

He would use training camp and the first few games of the season to "play himself into shape". It was a big part of what caused the rift between him and Kobe.

He could get away with it when he was younger. But as he got older it started taking longer and longer to get into shape and it took it's toll on him.

 

[desert heat]

Shaq worked hard during the season. But he was notorious for being lazy and letting himself get out of shape and overweight in the off-season. It's something that even he admits.

He would use training camp and the first few games of the season to "play himself into shape". It was a big part of what caused the rift between him and Kobe.

He could get away with it when he was younger. But as he got older it started taking longer and longer to get into shape and it took it's toll on him.

that might be good tabloid material, but if you don't work hard, at that level, you'll be out of league. everybody works hard at that level. it's not high school. shaq became injury prone and had some weight problems, but that came later in his career when he was past his prime.

 

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