Why did 11 - 1 Alabama get picked over 12 - 1 Wisconsin?

[SJ76]

Mad? I think it is hilarious. Fisher jumped ship to greener pastures and FSU replaced him with a guy who just lost to the only 3 ranked teams he faced by almost 30 ppg.

Yep you still pissed. And stupid. Jimbo has been a bad coach since the natty. And now he's in lala land leaving FSU, passing on LSU and going to College station. Any moron can see it.

Look at you going retard and Jimmy hasn't even done a dam thing. Can't even beat his instate rival. Sure as hell cant beat Florida St

 

[4down20]

In Nick Saban's 3rd year at MSU, a program that hadn't had a winning season in 7 years and was being sanctioned by the NCAA - Michigan St beat #1 Ohio St that year.

Harbaugh after 3 years at a blue blood in Michigan can't pull it off. And in his 3rd year the team is actually worse.

You know the real difference between Michigan and the SEC? If our coach loses to Auburn 3 years in a row - we fire his ass.

 

[7Samurai13]

I hate me some Saban more than most but holy fuck.

 

[Destroydacre]

Ala-fucking-bama!!

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

What he did at Michigan St is more impressive than what Harbaugh has done at Michigan. Who the fuck can't win 10 games @ Michigan on a 12 game schedule? Seen Hoke and Rich Rod do it FFS. You can lose to Ohio St every year?(and you do), and throw in a random Michigan St(and you do) or some other conference loss(and you do) and you still have a 10 win season. Even if you go and also lose your shitty bowl game.

In Harbaugh's 3rd year, he has the worst team. Which is funny because that's supposed to be the year when a good coach starts getting things together. Where's all them big time recruits from the SEC? He gets his own players, and does worse.

So if he was middle of the road at MSU, then Harbaugh is straight up dog shit. How bad would have Michigan St had been if Harbaugh had walked into that? 2-10?

And LSU is yet another mess of a situation he walked into. You're probably young and all you know LSU as is the program he built. That's not the LSU I grew up with. The LSU I grew up with an easy win most years. That was their first national title since 1958. But sure you'll give him "SEC credit", but you have no clue what he really did there.

He wasn't really middle of the road in the NFL. There is a reason Miami fans were pissed he left, they wouldn't have cared if he was "middle of the road" as you claim. Yet another time he inherited a mess and was in the process of cleaning it up.

And at Alabama he's had success that exceeds anything in history. Oh, and he walked into another mess there as well.

The only common denominator here is you're a dumbass who doesn't know what he's talking about.

So what you are saying is — the SEC and richest recruiting footprint in the country is the common denominator. I agree wholeheartedly.

Did you know he lost more players in one year at MSU in the B1G to academic related suspension than all his years combined in the SEC? Probably just a coincidence, just like the coincidence with the medical hardships when Bama has more than the entire SEC combined, because, and I quote, ‘Alabama players got hurt more than other teams’

He is a great coach...... in the SEC. want to know the difference between the B1G and the SEC. Deontay Anderson wanted to transfer to UM and couldn’t get past admissions — yet he had no problem in the SEC.

As I said — take the advantages away from him — he is just another coach. 0 division titles, 0 conference titles, 0 bowl wins, 0 playoff wins, 0 playoff appearances.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

In Nick Saban's 3rd year at MSU, a program that hadn't had a winning season in 7 years and was being sanctioned by the NCAA - Michigan St beat #1 Ohio St that year.

Harbaugh after 3 years at a blue blood in Michigan can't pull it off. And in his 3rd year the team is actually worse.

You know the real difference between Michigan and the SEC? If our coach loses to Auburn 3 years in a row - we fire his ass.

FYI — MSU was a .500 team when Saban took over. After 4 years — they were still a .500 team. He did less in 5 years than George Perles did at MSU as their coach. He won a Rose Bowl. Saban won nothing.

 

[4down20]

So what you are saying is — the SEC and richest recruiting footprint in the country is the common denominator. I agree wholeheartedly.

Did you know he lost more players in one year at MSU in the B1G to academic related suspension than all his years combined in the SEC? Probably just a coincidence, just like the coincidence with the medical hardships when Bama has more than the entire SEC combined, because, and I quote, ‘Alabama players got hurt more than other teams’

He is a great coach...... in the SEC. want to know the difference between the B1G and the SEC. Deontay Anderson wanted to transfer to UM and couldn’t get past admissions — yet he had no problem in the SEC.

As I said — take the advantages away from him — he is just another coach. 0 division titles, 0 conference titles, 0 bowl wins, 0 playoff wins, 0 playoff appearances.

Saban beat Ohio St, let me know if Harbaugh ever manages to do it with a blue blood program and huge advantages.

Alabama's medical staff is probably the best in college football currently and still we had a crazy amount of injuries this year. But the big difference is - now they heal properly and they heal quick.

If you don't understand the differences that have occurred medically from 2007 until now in college football, then you are just ignorant to them.

 

[4down20]

FYI — MSU was a .500 team when Saban took over. After 4 years — they were still a .500 team. He did less in 5 years than George Perles did at MSU as their coach. He won a Rose Bowl. Saban won nothing.

MSU had those seasons forfeited due to the NCAA.

And he went 9-2 in his last season at Michigan St, including a 2nd win over Ohio St. And wins over Michigan, Notre Dame and Penn St.

 

[4down20]

Big10 wins against Ohio St:

Nick Saban: 2
Harbaugh: 0

And oh yeah, the Big10 was much better when Saban did it, and didn't have the advantage of being a blue blood school.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Big10 wins against Ohio St:

Nick Saban: 2
Harbaugh: 0

And oh yeah, the Big10 was much better when Saban did it, and didn't have the advantage of being a blue blood school.

Harbaugh won more bowl games in year 1 than Saban won in 5 years, he also won more games in year 1 than Saban won in 5 years.

And if you want to talk about beating ranked teams — Harbaugh beat USC as a 42 point underdog when he was at Stanford. At the time, the biggest upset in NCAA history.

THAT is a program that was bottom of the barrel, not MSU who was a .500 team and you are trying to pass it off as if the season never happened before Saban took over.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

MSU had those seasons forfeited due to the NCAA.

And he went 9-2 in his last season at Michigan St, including a 2nd win over Ohio St. And wins over Michigan, Notre Dame and Penn St.

Brady Hoke won 11 in a season, like Saban, he was garbage in his other years.

Brady Hoke did something Saban couldn’t as a B1G coach though — he won a bowl game.

 

[4down20]

Harbaugh won more bowl games in year 1 than Saban won in 5 years, he also won more games in year 1 than Saban won in 5 years.

And if you want to talk about beating ranked teams — Harbaugh beat USC as a 42 point underdog when he was at Stanford. At the time, the biggest upset in NCAA history.

THAT is a program that was bottom of the barrel, not MSU who was a .500 team and you are trying to pass it off as if the season never happened before Saban took over.

Sorry, can you bold the part where he beat Ohio St.

 

[4down20]

Brady Hoke won 11 in a season, like Saban, he was garbage in his other years.

Brady Hoke did something Saban couldn’t as a B1G coach though — he won a bowl game.

So winning bowl games is more important than beating your rival?

Where I'm from, that's the kind of shit you get fired for.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Sorry, can you bold the part where he beat Ohio St.

When you bold the part where Saban has won ANYTHING outside the SEC I will.

 

[4down20]

When you bold the part where Saban has won ANYTHING outside the SEC I will.

Do you think if Michigan was in the SEC, Harbaugh could beat Ohio St?


Saban beat Ohio St twice.

 

[Rolltide94]

Feel free to list what he accomplished outside the SEC? We’ve had this discussion before — I’m still waiting on a response.

I could have sworn he won a MAC Championship at Toledo...that would be something Jimmy Jam has never done...unless you want to count the non-scholarship Patriot League, lol.

 

[Rolltide94]

You are talking like this is new? UM hasn’t beaten their rivals in the past decade plus.

SO, what you are saying is Jimmy Jam is the same as all the shitty coaches that UM has had for a decade. I mean, the rest of us already knew that, but it is refreshing to see you finally see the light as well.

 

[NolePride]

So he didn’t choose to leave FSU to go to TAM? Interesting........because that is exactly what happened. But once again, you can tell the story anyway that’s make you feel better.

I understand — I’d be bitter too. It isn’t a good look when a school is left at the altar for another school. If it were the NFL, you just wish them the best, but another P5 school? Ouch. But FSU wasted no time bringing in a proven winner?

Listen you're part of a disgruntled fan base, praying every night for a return to the 1900's.
He ain't leaving us at the altar. He's hard-headed, always has been, and he couldn't stand
the new found questions that were being shoved at him. Nor could he deal with orders being
given to him. Tough.

Anybody we hire will become a winner. And props to you guys and the winner you hired.
Congrats on those 8 wins Let's see, you only played 5 teams that are going to a bowl game
and 4 of them whipped your ass.

The UM boat sailed a long time ago and it ain't coming back

 

[Rolltide94]

Harbaugh won more bowl games in year 1 than Saban won in 5 years, he also won more games in year 1 than Saban won in 5 years.

And if you want to talk about beating ranked teams — Harbaugh beat USC as a 42 point underdog when he was at Stanford. At the time, the biggest upset in NCAA history.

THAT is a program that was bottom of the barrel, not MSU who was a .500 team and you are trying to pass it off as if the season never happened before Saban took over.

Damn...Jimmy Jam must have won a bunch of championships while he was at Stanford since he was so successful there. How many did he win?

 

[Rolltide94]

Listen you're part of a disgruntled fan base, praying every night for a return to the 1900's.
He ain't leaving us at the altar. He's hard-headed, always has been, and he couldn't stand
the new found questions that were being shoved at him. Nor could he deal with orders being
given to him. Tough.

Anybody we hire will become a winner. And props to you guys and the winner you hired.
Congrats on those 8 wins Let's see, you only played 5 teams that are going to a bowl game
and 4 of them whipped your ass.

The UM boat sailed a long time ago and it ain't coming back

Willy Taggart>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jimmy Jam.