Jim Harbaugh is far and away

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Slinky, my attempted point is that the more years Harbaugh has remaining on his contract, the higher the buyout if he is fired. Also, a big chunk of his salary is put into an insurance plan (reportedly upwards of $2 million annually) So, its not as simple as just firing him and paying a couple of million to make him go away as is the case with many other coaches. Secondly, Michigan is a true blue blood school in the matter of alumni and donors. There are some very heavy hitters financially speaking, who wanted Harbaugh there, and in fact signed some nice checks to make it happen. So there are political ramifications in addition to the dollars.

These are a catch 22 in my opinion. The school did some unprecedented things to bring him back to the program, but also makes it more difficult to let him go. His predecessors, Hoke and Rodriguez did not have the backing of influential alumni, nor were their contracts supplanted by other financial sources (ex. life insurance premiums).

As a friend of mine who worked for the University's Athletic department said right before Harbaugh was hired, "They are going to have to make a deal with the devil on this one"

Well said.

Those are things I'd not considered.

 

[PEOPLESCHICKEN]

Well said.

Those are things I'd not considered.

No biggie...obviously I follow the school closely. It also helps that I have relationships with people who have or currently work there so I sometimes..sometimes get insider info.

 

[PEOPLESCHICKEN]

Michigan’s close to preseason projections, despite QB injury

For the record, Michigan came into the season overrated. They were not and are not a top 10 team. You never like to say a win was a "bad win", but I think beating Florida fabricated expectations.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

For the record, Michigan came into the season overrated. They were and are not a top 10 team. You never like to say a win was a "bad win", but I think beating Florida fabricated expectations.

You know I can't send you a private message?

I wanted to send you a photo of me obliterating a salad bowl of wilted kale.

 

[PEOPLESCHICKEN]

Buck up UM fans...things could be worse. This could our team

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Buck up UM fans...things could be worse. This could our team

I seenst that shot earlier today. Dios fuckin mio.

 

[PEOPLESCHICKEN]

You know I can't send you a private message?

I wanted to send you a photo of me obliterating a salad bowl of wilted kale.

Well, for that I am thankful. As you once said, anonymity is a virtue

 

[PEOPLESCHICKEN]

I seenst that shot earlier today. Dios fuckin mio.

Somewhere a junior college academic advisor is punching himself

 

[PEOPLESCHICKEN]

You know I can't send you a private message?

I wanted to send you a photo of me obliterating a salad bowl of wilted kale.

Kale is the most erotic of the leafed cabbage family

 

[4down20]

No, he was recruiting well, but it was not translating to the field. Rich Rod recruited well, same thing.

But Harbaugh is because he's posted the same record as Hoke so far?

 

[megalodon30]

The most overrated/overpaid coach of all time.

I'm lazy don't make me post the proof.

He got to the Super Bowl with Colin Kaepernick at QB. You're argument is invalid.

 

[umichgradfan]

No, he was recruiting well, but it was not translating to the field. Rich Rod recruited well, same thing.

Rodriguez had a whole different scheme that did not translate to the B1G. He recruited fast, light-weight players who couldn't compete with other B1G defenses. Thus, the defense was decimated. Also, because of the offensive scheme, defensive players were on the field way too long and ran out of gas at the end of many games. It simply didn't work. Rodriguez had little interest in defense and didn't hire capable coordinators. He didn't understand the B1G in general or Michigan in particular. Rodriguez was a terrible fit for the program. He hasn't performed well at Arizona either.

Hoke recruited well but didn't have the first clue about how to "develop" players. Although he rebuilt the defense to an extent (it was his specialty), he failed to develop the offense. I'll go out on a limb here to say that Shane Morris, among others, was a casualty of his inability to coach players up.

Neither Rodriguez nor Hoke have the coaching skills of Jim Harbaugh. When Harbaugh came on board, he said he was no "savior" for Michigan. Instead, he said that people should not expect miracles after the previous 7 years of very bad coaching. This year is only his third year. I take Harbaugh at his word--even if this team doesn't measure up to the record of the two previous years. I don't expect him to "save" the Michigan football program. I expect him to build a winning program for the long haul that will likely have a few missteps in the process. He is already light years ahead of Rodriguez and Hoke in that process. Even St. Nick Saban's team took a step back in his 4th year at Alabama. Moreover, Michigan fans are not like Ohio State fans who fired two winning coaches because they could not beat their arch rival.

It's worth noting that the people most interested in the firing of Jim Harbaugh are fans of other teams who are only too happy to point out his flaws as if their coaches are all that. Sensible Michigan fans (translation: most of them) will not be triggered by their criticisms.

 

[7Samurai13]

Rodriguez had a whole different scheme that did not translate to the B1G. He recruited fast, light-weight players who couldn't compete with other B1G defenses. Thus, the defense was decimated. Also, because of the offensive scheme, defensive players were on the field way too long and ran out of gas at the end of many games. It simply didn't work. Rodriguez had little interest in defense and didn't hire capable coordinators. He didn't understand the B1G in general or Michigan in particular. Rodriguez was a terrible fit for the program. He hasn't performed well at Arizona either.

Hoke recruited well but didn't have the first clue about how to "develop" players. Although he rebuilt the defense to an extent (it was his specialty), he failed to develop the offense. I'll go out on a limb here to say that Shane Morris, among others, was a casualty of his inability to coach players up.

Neither Rodriguez nor Hoke have the coaching skills of Jim Harbaugh. When Harbaugh came on board, he said he was no "savior" for Michigan. Instead, he said that people should not expect miracles after the previous 7 years of very bad coaching. This year is only his third year. I take Harbaugh at his word--even if this team doesn't measure up to the record of the two previous years. I don't expect him to "save" the Michigan football program. I expect him to build a winning program for the long haul that will likely have a few missteps in the process. He is already light years ahead of Rodriguez and Hoke in that process. Even St. Nick Saban's team took a step back in his 4th year at Alabama. Moreover, Michigan fans are not like Ohio State fans who fired two winning coaches because they could not beat their arch rival.

It's worth noting that the people most interested in the firing of Jim Harbaugh are fans of other teams who are only too happy to point out his flaws as if their coaches are all that. Sensible Michigan fans (translation: most of them) will not be triggered by their criticisms.

Please tell me who is calling for Harbaugh to be fired. Most people are just sick of the blind defending of all things Harbaugh. No other coach gets the "we have to wait for his players to get in there" like every Michigan coach gets. He's in his third year and is responsible for his current roster situation. Michigan State is starting 13 freshmen and sophomores, teams do it all the time. Michigan fans are just using the Hoke excuse as a crutch.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Hoke was the D-line coach for the '97 national championship game.

He was Nebraska's D line coach?

 

[Chewbaccer]

He is the same age as Vince elfin' Dooley apparently

1980 is a lot closer than 48. And vince is still involved in football these days with Kennesaw State.

 

[ellupo]

Rodriguez had a whole different scheme that did not translate to the B1G. He recruited fast, light-weight players who couldn't compete with other B1G defenses. Thus, the defense was decimated. Also, because of the offensive scheme, defensive players were on the field way too long and ran out of gas at the end of many games. It simply didn't work. Rodriguez had little interest in defense and didn't hire capable coordinators. He didn't understand the B1G in general or Michigan in particular. Rodriguez was a terrible fit for the program. He hasn't performed well at Arizona either.

Hoke recruited well but didn't have the first clue about how to "develop" players. Although he rebuilt the defense to an extent (it was his specialty), he failed to develop the offense. I'll go out on a limb here to say that Shane Morris, among others, was a casualty of his inability to coach players up.

Neither Rodriguez nor Hoke have the coaching skills of Jim Harbaugh. When Harbaugh came on board, he said he was no "savior" for Michigan. Instead, he said that people should not expect miracles after the previous 7 years of very bad coaching. This year is only his third year. I take Harbaugh at his word--even if this team doesn't measure up to the record of the two previous years. I don't expect him to "save" the Michigan football program. I expect him to build a winning program for the long haul that will likely have a few missteps in the process. He is already light years ahead of Rodriguez and Hoke in that process. Even St. Nick Saban's team took a step back in his 4th year at Alabama. Moreover, Michigan fans are not like Ohio State fans who fired two winning coaches because they could not beat their arch rival.

It's worth noting that the people most interested in the firing of Jim Harbaugh are fans of other teams who are only too happy to point out his flaws as if their coaches are all that. Sensible Michigan fans (translation: most of them) will not be triggered by their criticisms.

Incorrect. They are the reason for all the over hype as well as MI having at one point the most money bet on them to win the NC the year Harbs was hired. Just by watching their post and actions most MI fans are not sensible.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Michigan’s close to preseason projections, despite QB injury

 

[PEOPLESCHICKEN]

Incorrect. They are the reason for all the over hype as well as MI having at one point the most money bet on them to win the NC the year Harbs was hired. Just by watching their post and actions most MI fans are not sensible.

Again, do you really wanna cast that stone?? This is laughable at best....not just a month ago many buckeye fans on here were ready to jump off a building.

 

[PEOPLESCHICKEN]

But Harbaugh is because he's posted the same record as Hoke so far?

You are not getting my point apparently

 

[4down20]

You are not getting my point apparently

I guess not.

Harbaugh did well with players that were recruited by Hoke. It's his 3rd year, and it's usually the year when a coach finally gets "his" guys in most spots - and Michigan is doing worse.