POLL #5 USC at #16 Washington State - who wins?

[NolePride]

This game is a tricky one!

That's an interesting signature line you have...

"Does her ass look like turn two at Daytona?"

That reminded me of a girl I met up with one night, long ago, around 3 a.m.

Her ass didn't really look like turn two at Daytona...However, when her left cheek was in
Daytona...her right one was in Deland.

She said she liked it doggy-style. That was OK, but I couldn't get any closer to her than
New Smyrna Beach.

 

[Yo Tee]

USC has played to date:

Western Michigan
Texas
Stanford
Cal


Washington St. has played to date:

Montana St.
Boise St.
Oregon St.
Nevada

And? Cal is a shit team, Stanford was ranked but wasn't worthy of it. Western Michigan is NOT the WM of last year and Texas...I mean come on now. Boise State is the best team out of those 8.

 

[socaljim242]

Oh good, another fantastic game the Pac 12 doesn't want the East Coast to watch.....Conservatively, it will be over around 1:30-2am Eastern time.

But either way, USC is bad and they'll probably lose.

I guess if every week you say USC sucks and predict they will lose one day you will be right. Congrats on that

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

This is in NO WAY an endorsement of Washington State, but I like Washington State to win this game.

Not an endorsement

 

[socaljim242]

This is in NO WAY an endorsement of Washington State, but I like Washington State to win this game.

Not an endorsement

 

[AlaskaGuy]

And? Cal is a shit team, Stanford was ranked but wasn't worthy of it. Western Michigan is NOT the WM of last year and Texas...I mean come on now. Boise State is the best team out of those 8.

Boise St. has won two games this year ... vs Troy (FCS) and New Mexico St. and neither of those wins were blowouts by any means.

 

[tnapucco]

Cal QB threw 4 int.


I don't think Falk will throw 4 int.

 

[Yo Tee]

Boise St. has won two games this year ... vs Troy (FCS) and New Mexico St. and neither of those wins were blowouts by any means.

Western Michigan has won 2 games, beating Idaho by 9 and Wagner by 35. Stanford, who has lost 2 games while ranked, has won 2 games against Rice and UCLA. Texas has only won 1 game, shutting out San Jose State, lost to Maryland while ranked. Cal has 3 wins but against an FCS team, UNC and Ole Miss. Not exactly the cream of the crop either.

 

[WizardHawk]

Cal QB threw 4 int.


I don't think Falk will throw 4 int.

Cal actually has a defense this year. I don't think WSU still has much of one.

 

[WizardHawk]

If the steelers fan wants to ride out the transitive property to make his judgement, let him. We all know it doesn't work that way, but you can't educate those that aren't willing to listen.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Western Michigan has won 2 games, beating Idaho by 9 and Wagner by 35. Stanford, who has lost 2 games while ranked, has won 2 games against Rice and UCLA. Texas has only won 1 game, shutting out San Jose State, lost to Maryland while ranked. Cal has 3 wins but against an FCS team, UNC and Ole Miss. Not exactly the cream of the crop either.

Stanford's two losses were vs ranked teams .. SC and SDSU.

 

[tnapucco]

Cal actually has a defense this year. I don't think WSU still has much of one.

Sometimes having just a bit more offense than the other guise will win you a game or two.

Should be a good game. Better than most of you are expecting I'll bet!

 

[Yo Tee]

Cal actually has a defense this year. I don't think WSU still has much of one.

Cal - 21.5 PPG allowed
WSU - 18.5 PPG allowed

Both have played less than stellar opponents.

 

[Yo Tee]

Stanford's two losses were vs ranked teams .. SC and SDSU.

San Diego State wasn't ranked at the time. The currently are but not when they beat Stanford.

 

[WizardHawk]

Sometimes having just a bit more offense than the other guise will win you a game or two.

Should be a good game. Better than most of you are expecting I'll bet!

Wait, everyone expects it to be a good game. It is those claiming WSU should win easily I would scoff at.

USC should have Jones back running the ball. If that is true, I don't see WSU really even slowing him down much. Both are going to score a fair amount. I'd like the over for sure if I was taking any line on this game. It could very much go either way, but USC has more talent and bigger guys in the trenches. For that reason alone I'd lean for a USC win.

 

[WizardHawk]

Cal - 21.5 PPG allowed
WSU - 18.5 PPG allowed

Both have played less than stellar opponents.

Look, I get that you actually believe what you type so there is no point in going further.

Stats from one team to another this time of year means absolutely nothing. Zero. Zilch. Against shit teams of various shittiness you can't really compare direct stats. It's not until you have common opponents that it means anything at all, and even then it doesn't say nearly what you believe it to be.

 

[tnapucco]

Wait, everyone expects it to be a good game. It is those claiming WSU should win easily I would scoff at.

USC should have Jones back running the ball. If that is true, I don't see WSU really even slowing him down much. Both are going to score a fair amount. I'd like the over for sure if I was taking any line on this game. It could very much go either way, but USC has more talent and bigger guys in the trenches. For that reason alone I'd lean for a USC win.

Welp, you should have taken my bet in the betting exchange...I had 500 smackeruleans on Wazzu to beat the spread.

 

[Yo Tee]

If the steelers fan wants to ride out the transitive property to make his judgement, let him. We all know it doesn't work that way, but you can't educate those that aren't willing to listen.

Look, I get that you actually believe what you type so there is no point in going further.

Stats from one team to another this time of year means absolutely nothing. Zero. Zilch. Against shit teams of various shittiness you can't really compare direct stats. It's not until you have common opponents that it means anything at all, and even then it doesn't say nearly what you believe it to be.

Listen, this conversation, it's opinion based. You cant educate based on an opinion when you don't have facts to back it up.

You said Cal has a better defense. I showed you a stat that proved, to a certain extent, that your statement is incorrect. Now because I provided you with a stat that proves you were wrong, you want to all of a sudden say that we can't judge stats from one team to another at this point in the year. Make up your mind. Also chip away at your ego a little bit. "You can't educate those that aren't willing to listen." I refuse to listen to some who thinks their opinions or statements, verified by facts and stats or not, are better, smarter or more educated than mine and if you didn't want to enter a statistical conversation, don't make such an unverified comment like "Cal has a better defense" without doing the research first to make sure what you're saying makes sense.

 

[NU_FTW]

USC going to squeak one off

 

[WizardHawk]

Listen, this conversation, it's opinion based. You cant educate based on an opinion when you don't have facts to back it up.

You said Cal has a better defense. I showed you a stat that proved, to a certain extent, that your statement is incorrect. Now because I provided you with a stat that proves you were wrong, you want to all of a sudden say that we can't judge stats from one team to another at this point in the year. Make up your mind. Also chip away at your ego a little bit. "You can't educate those that aren't willing to listen." I refuse to listen to some who thinks their opinions or statements, verified by facts and stats or not, are better, smarter or more educated than mine and if you didn't want to enter a statistical conversation, don't make such an unverified comment like "Cal has a better defense" without doing the research first to make sure what you're saying makes sense.

This is why I said there is no point to moving on. Self serving bastardization of what was said to prove something that isn't provable.

Stats between teams with no common opponent mean nothing. Period. Stop. End of discussion. This isn't anything new. And is entirely consistent with anything I've ever said throughout the history of college football. You have nothing there.

I've watched both teams. Have you? And I don't mean highlights, I mean full games snap to snap. I saw the pressure Cal had on USC, but of course they still don't have the consistency to be a real threat in the north.

I watched WSU in a couple of games. I've seen what their D line looks like and I don't think they match up as well against USC's Oline. And I'm not buying their secondary. If Darnold has targets that get clear and he has any time in the pocket he will make them pay.

You see I base my opinions of both off what I've seen, not stats on a page. My eyes don't lie to me. Stats lie all the time. If you want to stick blindly to stats between teams with no common opponents then by all means knock yourself out. Trying to use them as some sort of proof of anything will just get you laughed at though.