MLB Daily Thread: 08-08-17: Trout gets 1,000 hit on 26th b-day

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Well if you are going to weigh the individuals second half numbers more heavily, shouldn't you weigh the team's second half numbers as well? Yet you posted their overall numbers. Like I said, you very well could be correct.

The point is, those two haven't been good for a while. They've been trending way down for a couple months. Maybe I knew that because they're in the Indians' division.

I wanted to look at the teams' pitching and I felt using the largest sample size (the whole season) made the most sense.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

So what was the combined ERA of every pitcher the Astros have faced up to the games against Houston?

Dude, just take one already:

 

[soxfan1468927]

The point is, those two haven't been good for a while. They've been trending way down for a while now. Maybe I knew that because they're in the Indians' division.

I wanted to look at the teams' pitching and I felt using the largest sample size (the whole season) made the most sense.

So you determine sample size by how it fits your argument.

 

[soxfan1468927]

Dude, just take one already:

I'll take pink please.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

So you determine sample size by how it fits your argument.

No, I used the largest available.

 

[Rock Strongo]

LOL

working on a new project...pretty interesting

Jefferson Lab | Exploring the Nature of Matter

i keep thinking of jdate lol (jlab.org)

 

[soxfan1468927]

No, I used the largest available.

Except when it comes to the invidual pitcher. In which case you'll use "how they are trending right now" but are unwilling to use the "how they are trending right now" when it comes to team pitching, because that doesn't suit the argument.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Except when it comes to the invidual pitcher. In which case you'll use "how they are trending right now" but are unwilling to use the "how they are trending right now" when it comes to team pitching, because that doesn't suit the argument.

False.

 

[Rock Strongo]

jason vargas:

1st half - 12-3 2.62 ERA 1.147 WHIP
2nd half - 1-2 5.79 ERA 1.714 WHIP

 

[soxfan1468927]

False.

Oh my apologies. So then what's the overall ERA of those teams in the 2nd half outside of playing the Astros?

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

jason vargas:

1st half - 12-3 2.62 ERA 1.147 WHIP
2nd half - 1-2 5.79 ERA 1.714 WHIP

Who ever saw that one coming?

I thought for sure that a 34-year-old journeyman pitcher with a career 4.18 ERA figured out how to channel his inner-Pedro.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Oh my apologies. So then what's the overall ERA of those teams in the 2nd half outside of playing the Astros?

 

[Rock Strongo]

Who ever saw that one coming?

I thought for sure that a 34-year-old journeyman pitcher with a career 4.18 ERA figured out how to channel his inner-Pedro.

his last 2 starts hes been better. one really bad one in there. he had TJ...some guys come back better.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

his last 2 starts hes been better. one really bad one in there. he had TJ...some guys come back better.

Yeah, anything's possible, but given his career ERA and your proclivities towards talking about "corrections," you can't tell me that you thought he'd sustain CY caliber pitching. At least not with a straight face.

 

[Rock Strongo]

In rehab terms, Vargas was a star, an overachieving student who aced every test. His arm rarely suffered the soreness that marks certain phases. The Royals’ medical staff marveled at his progress. But as his throwing program continued — first catch, then long toss, then bullpen side sessions — Eiland began to notice something kind of strange. As he returned to throwing, Vargas’ release point had dropped lower, maybe 2 inches. As Vargas stepped on the mound in the bullpen, Eiland sought to take a closer inspection.

“When you come back from Tommy John,” Eiland says, “sometimes your arm goes naturally to where it wants to go.”
To the untrained eye, the change was basically imperceptible. Even Vargas didn’t notice at first. But to a pitching coach tasked with identifying every detail, every lever and twist and turn, it opened up another world. Vargas’ fastball had increased movement. His command was impeccable. And his change-up — yes, the change-up, the pitch that had kept him in the big leagues — had transformed from a nasty offering to something like pure filth. As he watched, Eiland figured Vargas was onto something. One year later, Vargas is the answer to a simple riddle: What is the value of 2-3 inches?

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

Mookie Blaylock is like the greatest Red Sahx evah

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

One year later, Vargas is the answer to a simple riddle: What is the value of 2-3 inches?

There's a penis joke in there somewhere, I'm sure.

 

[soxfan1468927]

So all those teams have a combined ERA in the 2nd half of 4.23 in games played outside of the Astros. Which is above average in the 2nd half. So how would that be a cupcake pitching schedule?

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

So all those teams have a combined ERA in the 2nd half of 4.23 in games played outside of the Astros. Which is above average in the 2nd half. So how would that be a cupcake pitching schedule?

Because I looked at a larger sample size (the entire season). You've cut it down to twenty-plus games so that the numbers fit your argument.

 

[navamind]

Because I looked at a larger sample size (the entire season). You've cut it down to twenty-plus games so that the numbers fit your argument.

but 5 starts in the 2nd half (for Santana/Berrios) isn't a small sample size? Santana's FIP/xFIP are each about 1.5 runs higher than his ERA, so plenty of regression is to be expected. Berrios has a 3.99 FIP, though his xFIP is 4.54.