Peyton and the ESPYs

[YankeeRebel]

He did thank Von Miller and the Broncos defense for "carrying him" to another Super Bowl win...

Yes he did.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Shouldn't you be crapping on Peyton's "greatest offense ever" in 2013 scoring just 8 points in the Super Bowl?

No, the Giants didnt accomplish the feat

 

[chf]

Taking shortcuts to winning rings is the act of a coward in sports

The End

What, like Eli refusing to go to San Diego?

 

[BusSport]

ESPN video: Peyton Manning's Super Bowl LI Party Skit

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

What, like Eli refusing to go to San Diego?

Yes, exactly like that, cause forcing move to a 4-12 Giants team was the same as Durant joining the team that just broke the wins record in the NBA

 

[chf]

Yes, exactly like that, cause forcing move to a 4-12 Giants team was the same as Durant joining the team that just broke the wins record in the NBA

Nope it's not the same at all, Eli was a snot-nosed entitled rook who'd never played a down of football. Durant a respected veteran who'd played his whole career in a league backwater, been MVP, and you know, actually played out his contract and was free to sign anywhere he wanted.

So good catch sir!

Not the same at all.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Nope it's not the same at all, Eli was a snot-nosed entitled rook who'd never played a down of football. Durant a respected veteran who'd played his whole career in a league backwater, been MVP, and you know, actually played out his contract and was free to sign anywhere he wanted.

So good catch sir!

Not the same at all.

No, its not the same because Eli forced his way onto a team that wasnt good

Durant forced his way onto a team that would have been in the Finals without him


Stick to your guns, what you implied couldnt be more wrong

 

[chf]

No, its not the same because Eli forced his way onto a team that wasnt good

Durant forced his way onto a team that would have been in the Finals without him


Stick to your guns, what you implied couldnt be more wrong

Heh. The team was better than San Diego, AND more to the case, was seen as able to quickly rebuild and win, unlike S.D.

At any rate, I don't actually give a flying fuck if Eli forced a trade, the NFL has seen that before (Elway etc), but it's not 'simple,' at all.

You don't like Durant, so he's a coward. You like Eli, so he's not.

 

[iowajerms]

Around 5:20 is where he roasts KD.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Heh. The team was better than San Diego, AND more to the case, was seen as able to quickly rebuild and win, unlike S.D.

At any rate, I don't actually give a flying fuck if Eli forced a trade, the NFL has seen that before (Elway etc), but it's not 'simple,' at all.

You don't like Durant, so he's a coward. You like Eli, so he's not.

You couldnt be more wrong

My dis-like for Durant BEGAN with his decision to go to GS

I never had any feelings for him other than respect as a great player

Joining the team you couldnt beat, is the act of a coward IMO

We could just go ahead and agree to dis-agree

 

[YankeeRebel]

Nope it's not the same at all, Eli was a snot-nosed entitled rook who'd never played a down of football. Durant a respected veteran who'd played his whole career in a league backwater, been MVP, and you know, actually played out his contract and was free to sign anywhere he wanted.

So good catch sir!

Not the same at all.

Exactly. He owed that team and that fan base not a single thing. The goal of every pro athlete is to win a championship, to be a member of a championship team, to contribute, not sit back and be okay but never good enough to win it all.

 

[chf]

You couldnt be more wrong

My dis-like for Durant BEGAN with his decision to go to GS

I never had any feelings for him other than respect as a great player

Joining the team you couldnt beat, is the act of a coward IMO

We could just go ahead and agree to dis-agree

So then be consistent, and call Elway, and Eli, and every other guy who forces a team's hand a coward. Lebron to Southbeach, etc etc etc.

 

[chf]

Exactly. He owed that team and that fan base not a single thing. The goal of every pro athlete is to win a championship, to be a member of a championship team, to contribute, not sit back and be okay but never good enough to win it all.

Well to be fair, it's a nice story to have a guy be loyal. Gretzky WANTED to be an Oiler for life, but Peter Pocklington got greedy. I'm glad that Steve Largent was a Seahawk his whole career.

Having said that, I'm okay with Marshawn wanting to be a Raider.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

So then be consistent, and call Elway, and Eli, and every other guy who forces a team's hand a coward. Lebron to Southbeach, etc etc etc.

None of that even comes close to comparing

Eli and Elway didnt force their teams hand to join a team they couldnt beat, or teams that broke win records the prior season, or teams that were favored to win titles WITHOUT them

Those were 2 guys that didnt want to go to bad organizations in their opinions...

Durants decision was a decision based on "what is the easiest path for me to get a ring"

 

[Melman]

Around 5:20 is where he roasts KD.

The Falcons joke at 6:25 was pretty good, too.

 

[chf]

None of that even comes close to comparing

Eli and Elway didnt force their teams hand to join a team they couldnt beat, or teams that broke win records the prior season, or teams that were favored to win titles WITHOUT them

Those were 2 guys that didnt want to go to bad organizations in their opinions...

Durants decision was a decision based on "what is the easiest path for me to get a ring"

So Durant decided he'd had enough of playing in a backwater, and wanted to play with a unique bunch of guys, and WOW, pulled his weight, fit in perfectly, didn't cause waves, and was finals MVP.

Because that was HIS opinion, just like Eli and Elway were allowed to have an OPINION.

Be consistent.

 

[iowajerms]

His retirement video is pretty good too. The segment is around 0:55

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

So Durant decided he'd had enough of playing in a backwater, and wanted to play with a unique bunch of guys, and WOW, pulled his weight, fit in perfectly, didn't cause waves, and was finals MVP.

Because that was HIS opinion, just like Eli and Elway were allowed to have an OPINION.

Be consistent.

I dont know where youre going, youre completely losing me

I dont see how Elway and Eli joining shitty teams, compares to Durant joining a team that was gonna be in the Finals without him

And Durant left a team that went 7 games in the WCF with the same team he joined

Its the weakest thing I can ever remember a big time athlete doing

 

[chf]

I dont know where youre going, youre completely losing me

I dont see how Elway and Eli joining shitty teams, compares to Durant joining a team that was gonna be in the Finals without him

And Durant left a team that went 7 games in the WCF with the same team he joined

Its the weakest thing I can ever remember a big time athlete doing

The mindset was the same, wanting to win. Eli = Elway = Durant = Lebron

What's different is the situation. All were looking to MAXIMIZE their chances of winning. Elway and Eli were unable to force a trade to a powerhouse team, because that's not how the collectively bargained process works/worked.

Just like NBA vets who have played out their contracts have the ability to decide what's best for them.

If one is a 'coward,' then all are 'cowards,' because each wanted to take an easier route to winning.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

The mindset was the same, wanting to win. Eli = Elway = Durant = Lebron

What's different is the situation. All were looking to MAXIMIZE their chances of winning. Elway and Eli were unable to force a trade to a powerhouse team, because that's not how the collectively bargained process works.

Just like NBA vets who have played out their contracts have the ability to decide what's best for them.

If one is a 'coward,' then all are 'cowards,' because each wanted to take an easier route to winning.

It doesnt make sense to me

Again, and for the last time, Eli and Elway joined shitty teams, you have every right to argue against their decision to force teams' hands

Durant joined the best team in the NBA that he couldnt beat