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[Oldschool739]

You can't put a price on Flacco's nuts. He brought them a championship. Right little @HammerDown (I mean @Oldschool739 ).
It's too funny how he deflects actual facts and facts with Baltimore drivel. I love this guy. He reminds me of the little kid we stuffed in his locker...daily because he didn't know when to shut up.

Who you trying to kid fat boy, the only thing you ever stuffed in a locker was your 35 cheeseburgers you had for lunch each day....
And I gave you facts that you choose to ignore, that tells me you're too stupid to comprehend anything other than your feeble opinion, so why waste my time on a hater fool....I just keep on making you my punching bag, it's all you're good for Corky....

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Who you trying to kid fat boy, the only thing you ever stuffed in a locker was your 35 cheeseburgers you had for lunch each day....
And I gave you facts that you choose to ignore, that tells me you're too stupid to comprehend anything other than your feeble opinion, so why waste my time on a hater fool....I just keep on making you my punching bag, it's all you're good for Corky....

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@littlehammer you wouldn't know a fact if it bitch slapped you like most posters do on this board.

I may be a lot of things. The one thing I'm not is fat so back in the locker with you Skippy.
BTW who let you out? Was it that turd burgler @DirtDirtDirt? You know birds of a feather.

 

[Oldschool739]

@littlehammer you wouldn't know a fact if it bitch slapped you like most posters do on this board.

I may be a lot of things. The one thing I'm not is fat so back in the locker with you Skippy.
BTW who let you out? Was it that turd burgler @DirtDirtDirt? You know birds of a feather.

Sure Stumpty Dumpty, and your wife is a Pats cheerleader too....

 

[sonnyblack65]

A Putz fan criticizing another teams qb salary is like a stranger saying your car payment is too high...
None of his business....But Flacco is the 5th highest paid qb in the league and soon to 6th or 7th....
CD was correct in recognizing that this is a market driven league, every starting qb is not a Joe Montana, but you put the best one you can find that fits your system and that's it....
Take Brady out of BB's system and you'd have a Fitzpatrick or Cousins at best.....

Bill's system started off 5-13 with their franchise QB Bledsoe. Bill is a defensive guy, has no clue on offense

 

[Oldschool739]

Bill's system started off 5-13 with their franchise QB Bledsoe. Bill is a defensive guy, has no clue on offense

Once BB got his guys in place to run his system, he took off...It wasn't because of a rookie qb at the time, it was because of the team and system around him....
Brady has been in the same system, had few changes at OC and always had a good oline....BB is the first I recall that perfected the shifty little man wr in his system...Regardless that Josh calls the plays, BB oversees and approves it or it don't go....Just as he did the ineligible receiver a few yrs ago on us.....
Don't discount the mad scientist roll in their success, without him they'd probably still be a below average team...

 

[soxfan1468927]

Once BB got his guys in place to run his system, he took off...It wasn't because of a rookie qb at the time, it was because of the team and system around him....
Brady has been in the same system, had few changes at OC and always had a good oline....BB is the first I recall that perfected the shifty little man wr in his system...Regardless that Josh calls the plays, BB oversees and approves it or it don't go....Just as he did the ineligible receiver a few yrs ago on us.....
Don't discount the mad scientist roll in their success, without him they'd probably still be a below average team...

Interesting theory. So what happened the first two weeks of 2001? Funny how the system took off the same exact time that Brady took over. It's also weird that Belichick, who had 5 years to build the system in Cleveland, couldn't do it before Brady.

And yeah few changes at OC. Just Charlie Weis for 4 years, then Bill calling it for a year, Josh McDaniels for 3 years, then no OC again for two more years, then O'Brien for a year, then back to Josh for the last 5 years.

And always that great O-line. Isn't it funny how when Cassel took over in 2008, all of a sudden the offensive line sucked and gave up 47 sacks? It's weird because for Brady, they only gave up 21 in 2007 and 16 in 2009. Must have hated that guy.

 

[Oldschool739]

Interesting theory. So what happened the first two weeks of 2001? Funny how the system took off the same exact time that Brady took over. It's also weird that Belichick, who had 5 years to build the system in Cleveland, couldn't do it before Brady.

And yeah few changes at OC. Just Charlie Weis for 4 years, then Bill calling it for a year, Josh McDaniels for 3 years, then no OC again for two more years, then O'Brien for a year, then back to Josh for the last 5 years.

And always that great O-line. Isn't it funny how when Cassel took over in 2008, all of a sudden the offensive line sucked and gave up 47 sacks? It's weird because for Brady, they only gave up 21 in 2007 and 16 in 2009. Must have hated that guy.

You're cherry picking sox, if I remember correctly, BB had the Browns at 11-5 for the 94 season and beat the Pats in the playoffs , and God only knows who his qb was.....
And to my recollection Cassel won 11 games that season in NE so who gives a rat stool how many times he was sacked ?
Just proves my point that BB could win with a bum like Cassel in his system...
And you might want to enlighten sonny on BB's ability to call the offense, he says he knows nothing about it, just a defensive mind....
You should know more about your team than a fan from another team, but that's mine and many others perspective....Right or wrong, it's no different than Pats fans saying Joe Flacco is average and not worth the contract he has, they don't know either !!!!

 

[sonnyblack65]

Once BB got his guys in place to run his system, he took off...It wasn't because of a rookie qb at the time, it was because of the team and system around him....
Brady has been in the same system, had few changes at OC and always had a good oline....BB is the first I recall that perfected the shifty little man wr in his system...Regardless that Josh calls the plays, BB oversees and approves it or it don't go....Just as he did the ineligible receiver a few yrs ago on us.....
Don't discount the mad scientist roll in their success, without him they'd probably still be a below average team...

Sorry but BB has cost Pats 2 SB's the one when he went for it on 4th and 2 vs Indy and then not kicking FG's with 8 and 6 minutes left vs Denver ( needed 2 point conv , Gostowski missed his first xtra point) W/O Brady belichick is shit coach. Siefert didnt make San Fran the team did


Brady only 5x SB winner, 4 MVP, 6 time top 5 and to no#1 twice

 

[Oldschool739]

Sorry but BB has cost Pats 2 SB's the one when he went for it on 4th and 2 vs Indy and then not kicking FG's with 8 and 6 minutes left vs Denver ( needed 2 point conv , Gostowski missed his first xtra point) W/O Brady belichick is shit coach. Siefert didnt make San Fran the team did

Hey, nobody's perfect, but he has led them to 5 rings, I think that trumps the few mistakes...I've seen Brady throw 4 or 5 INT's in one game more than once, is he exempt in your eyes ?
And Seifert was a different situation, he took over in an already winning system and a franchise qb....

 

[sonnyblack65]

Hey, nobody's perfect, but he has led them to 5 rings, I think that trumps the few mistakes...I've seen Brady throw 4 or 5 INT's in one game more than once, is he exempt in your eyes ?
And Seifert was a different situation, he took over in an already winning system and a franchise qb....

Serious u have seen Brady throw that many picks? He leads the NFL in ts/int since he started and since AR who is no 2# Stop the BS and he was rated no#1 again Belichick is lucky. I know your alliance because Bill had Ozzie as an asst, He should suck Bradys balls

 

[Oldschool739]

Serious u have seen Brady throw that many picks? He leads the NFL in ts/int since he started and since AR who is no 2# Stop the BS and he was rated no#1 again Belichick is lucky. I know your alliance because Bill had Ozzie as an asst, He should suck Bradys balls

On a few occasions yes, but the point was, he has cost them some games as well....I have no alliance to BB, I just call it like I see it, well sometimes I might just be tormenting a troll or two, but you have to pay close attention to tell the difference.....I really don't think Brady would be near as successful on a lessor team, and sonny you know he was a 6th round pick for a reason....slow, did not throw the deep ball well, etc....
Hey it's just my opinion but you can't prove me wrong because it's impossible !!!!

 

[sonnyblack65]

On a few occasions yes, but the point was, he has cost them some games as well....I have no alliance to BB, I just call it like I see it, well sometimes I might just be tormenting a troll or two, but you have to pay close attention to tell the difference.....I really don't think Brady would be near as successful on a lessor team, and sonny you know he was a 6th round pick for a reason....slow, did not throw the deep ball well, etc....
Hey it's just my opinion but you can't prove me wrong because it's impossible !!!!

I hear ya BB would be a has been coach w/o Brady he was less than 50? and like 33%

 

[Oldschool739]

I hear ya BB would be a has been coach w/o Brady he was less than 50? and like 33%

Good night old buddy !!!......Oldschool is heading to the Keurig for an early night cap....

 

[sonnyblack65]

Good night old buddy !!!......Oldschool is heading to the Keurig for an early night cap....

Enjoy Chin don bona salute!!~

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Sure Stumpty Dumpty, and your wife is a Pats cheerleader too....

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Your mom is still looking good after all these years

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Once BB got his guys in place to run his system, he took off...It wasn't because of a rookie qb at the time, it was because of the team and system around him....
Brady has been in the same system, had few changes at OC and always had a good oline....BB is the first I recall that perfected the shifty little man wr in his system...Regardless that Josh calls the plays, BB oversees and approves it or it don't go....Just as he did the ineligible receiver a few yrs ago on us.....
Don't discount the mad scientist roll in their success, without him they'd probably still be a below average team...

I don't know why people think a system is a bad thing?
All the pieces and parts are what make a good/great team. BB and TB have proven they are both top notch. But it takes a village.
over the years the Pats have changed OCs/DCs/Line Coaches/players/systems... Without the others in place at the correct time the team has lost.
Winning the SB also takes luck. There are at least two SBs the Pats could've/should've won. Likewsise two they should've/could've lost. It takes a lot of pieces all in the right place to win.
I have to say 50/50 who's more responsible BB or TB for that? The system has allowed them both to excel.

 

[soxfan1468927]

You're cherry picking sox, if I remember correctly, BB had the Browns at 11-5 for the 94 season and beat the Pats in the playoffs , and God only knows who his qb was.....
And to my recollection Cassel won 11 games that season in NE so who gives a rat stool how many times he was sacked ?
Just proves my point that BB could win with a bum like Cassel in his system...
And you might want to enlighten sonny on BB's ability to call the offense, he says he knows nothing about it, just a defensive mind....
You should know more about your team than a fan from another team, but that's mine and many others perspective....Right or wrong, it's no different than Pats fans saying Joe Flacco is average and not worth the contract he has, they don't know either !!!!

1. What did I cherry pick? Yes, BB went 11-5 in his 4th year with the Browns. And "God only knows who is QB was"? Just a former number 1 overall pick. But that flies in the face of the narrative that BB gets his system in place, and any QB can succeed in it. You are the one that claimed that the team was successful under Brady, and not Bledsoe, because Belichick needed time to get his system in place. What a coincidence that the "time it took to get the system in place" corresponded exactly with the moment Brady took over. And how weird it is, that the "time it took to get the system in place" was after 4 years in Cleveland, and they had 1 winning season and then fell back again. And how weird it is, that "any bum QB can win in Belichick's system when he gets it in place", even though in his 6 seasons as a head coach before Brady, 5 of them were with a number 1 overall pick QB.

2. You know the point there, I was discussing the offensive line. And if Cassel is proof that Belichick can win with any bum in his system, why did Cassel have a better season in KC throwing to Tony Moeaki and Dwayne Bowe than he did in NE throwing to Randy Moss and Wes Welker? And if one year of Cassel is proof, why are 5 seasons of Bernie Kosar, Vinny Testaverde, and Drew Bledsoe not proof of the opposite?

3. I don't know what your point is on that BB ability to call the offense stuff. I don't care what other posters think or say, I'm just talking to you, not here to defend someone else's position.

4. I don't know what your point is in the last paragraph. Are you talking to me, yourself, or the people around you?

 

[Oldschool739]

Your mom is still looking good after all these years

Don't try to lie, you know that's your woman that you get sea sick on once a month from rolling in all those waves....

 

[Oldschool739]

1. What did I cherry pick? Yes, BB went 11-5 in his 4th year with the Browns. And "God only knows who is QB was"? Just a former number 1 overall pick. But that flies in the face of the narrative that BB gets his system in place, and any QB can succeed in it. You are the one that claimed that the team was successful under Brady, and not Bledsoe, because Belichick needed time to get his system in place. What a coincidence that the "time it took to get the system in place" corresponded exactly with the moment Brady took over. And how weird it is, that the "time it took to get the system in place" was after 4 years in Cleveland, and they had 1 winning season and then fell back again. And how weird it is, that "any bum QB can win in Belichick's system when he gets it in place", even though in his 6 seasons as a head coach before Brady, 5 of them were with a number 1 overall pick QB.

2. You know the point there, I was discussing the offensive line. And if Cassel is proof that Belichick can win with any bum in his system, why did Cassel have a better season in KC throwing to Tony Moeaki and Dwayne Bowe than he did in NE throwing to Randy Moss and Wes Welker? And if one year of Cassel is proof, why are 5 seasons of Bernie Kosar, Vinny Testaverde, and Drew Bledsoe not proof of the opposite?

3. I don't know what your point is on that BB ability to call the offense stuff. I don't care what other posters think or say, I'm just talking to you, not here to defend someone else's position.

4. I don't know what your point is in the last paragraph. Are you talking to me, yourself, or the people around you?

Well in short, concerning winning with less than stellar qb's, just look at last season's start for the 4 games Brady was suspended....BB took a backup and a 3rd string qb and won 3 out of 4....Coincidence ?, I don't think so....
And comparing the beginning years of another franchise to support years of success elsewhere is really useless...
Too many intangibles involved....But explain to me how all the experts skipped over a player for the most important and sought after position in football and no one had him on their board above the 6th round...
That's a project player, or TC fodder for qb's and you know it....
But believe as you will, you won't change my mind....
Yes they both compliment each other, but BB is the brains behind it all, and without a doubt, the best cheater of the 2.....

 

[soxfan1468927]

Well in short, concerning winning with less than stellar qb's, just look at last season's start for the 4 games Brady was suspended....BB took a backup and a 3rd string qb and won 3 out of 4....Coincidence ?, I don't think so....
And comparing the beginning years of another franchise to support years of success elsewhere is really useless...
Too many intangibles involved....But explain to me how all the experts skipped over a player for the most important and sought after position in football and no one had him on their board above the 6th round...
That's a project player, or TC fodder for qb's and you know it....
But believe as you will, you won't change my mind....
Yes they both compliment each other, but BB is the brains behind it all, and without a doubt, the best cheater of the 2.....

1. Small sample size again. They won 1 game because of a missed field goal. They also got shutout at home by the Bills.
2. What are you talking about? So when you say that Belichick can make any QB work in his system, you want to ignore the 5 years he spent in Cleveland?
3. These same experts drafted Ryan Leaf 2nd, JaMarcus Russell 1st, Jack Thompson and Steve Fuller before Joe Montana, didn't draft Kurt Warner, drafted Todd Marinovich and Dan McGwire before Brett Favre. Want me to keep going?