Is KSU coach Snyder in the wrong or in the right?

[uncfan103]

So once again we are back to claiming that because someone else was given a release, everyone else should as well.

No, it's me explaining that when you say most people aren't granted a release that you are mistaken. It's morally wrong, that's why it rarely ever happens.

 

[4down20]

He was granted his release from Alabama and free to transfer to over 100 FBS schools. I think this shows you don't fully understand how the transfer process works.

I don't remember it that way. I remember him going to a JuCo for a year and then going to Tennessee.

He was a 5 star JuCo recruit.

 

[4down20]

No, it's me explaining that when you say most people aren't granted a release that you are mistaken. It's morally wrong, that's why it rarely ever happens.

Most of the times they are granted a release it's a mutal decision.

 

[uncfan103]

I don't remember it that way. I remember him going to a JuCo for a year and then going to Tennessee.

He was a 5 star JuCo recruit.

He went JUCO for a year, by choice. He could've gone to literally any school in America other than schools in the SEC. Because Saban allowed him to transfer anywhere out of conference. He chose to go JUCO so he wouldn't have to sit out a year. He then was able to transfer anywhere he wanted.

Why should coach Snyder be restricting him? I feel like you're saying the player should transfer to a JUCO school. But, that would mean he still isn't playing for Snyder next year. If he's not playing for him, why should Snyder control where he goes to school if it doesn't affect him???

 

[4down20]

He went JUCO for a year, by choice. He could've gone to literally any school in America other than schools in the SEC. Because Saban allowed him to transfer anywhere out of conference. He chose to go JUCO so he wouldn't have to sit out a year. He then was able to transfer anywhere he wanted.

Why should coach Snyder be restricting him? I feel like you're saying the player should transfer to a JUCO school. But, that would mean he still isn't playing for Snyder next year. If he's not playing for him, why should Snyder control where he goes to school if it doesn't affect him???

Ok, so he didn't get the release he wanted and so he went to JuCo.

What's the difference?

And I don't care why Snyder restricted him. It's not for academic reasons and as such I don't care.

 

[Ron G]

I'm jumping in 7 pages late so what I say has probably been said but my take is this. I understand Snyder's reasons. It is hard for him to recruit so he has a policy of not granting transfers. Student didn't know that? Well he, his high school coaches, parents or whoever should of did due diligence before signing.
If they did then he went in with his eyes wide open.
As for it making it impossible for him to transfer, yes, transfer with an academic scholarship is not possible without permission.
But if he really hates it that bad then transfer without it. Pell grants, scholarships and student loans for a year. He can still practice with the school if I am correct. The other school cannot recruit him, he just can't play for a year and he can't have a scholarship for a year.
That sucks but think about it. He signed with Snyder, should of known Snyder's rules, so he either stays with Snyder or spends one year paying for college like any other kid and their parents.

Life sucks, move on.

Are you saying that a student with an Academic Scholarship cannot transfer without permission? I am totally unaware of that rule, I had a child with a full Academic Ride, did not transfer but I cannot find that rule in any of the paperwork.

 

[socaljim242]

Alabama football is among the best schools in the country when it comes to APR.

Saban has people who go to each players class every day and makes sure they are in class.

But hey, pretend otherwise because you deem success as meaning education takes a back seat.

LOL. Thats pretty funny. He doesnt give a shit when his players routinely get caught breaking the law but hey he sends someone to make sure they are in class. M

Making sure they are in class passes for academic guidance at Alabama. That's called making sure they stay eligible to play football , it's got nothing to do with academics. LOL

 

[4down20]

LOL. Thats pretty funny. He doesnt give a shit when his players routinely get caught breaking the law but hey he sends someone to make sure they are in class. M

Making sure they are in class passes for academic guidance at Alabama. That's called making sure they stay eligible to play football , it's got nothing to do with academics. LOL

Alabama has a much higher APR than USC. If Alabama and USC both got 5-7 next year, Alabama will get into a bowl game before USC because of academics.

Other than making sure the kids go to class and get their degrees, what more can a head coach do exactly?

 

[socaljim242]

Alabama has a much higher APR than USC. If Alabama and USC both got 5-7 next year, Alabama will get into a bowl game before USC because of academics.

Other than making sure the kids go to class and get their degrees, what more can a head coach do exactly?

LOL. You're Fking killing me. You mean Alabama gives Sabans football players really good grades? I'm sure those boys all earned those grades because hey he sent someone down to make sure they are in class. Do you know that Alabama Auburn and Florida all had the exact same APR only trailing Vanderbilt in the SEC? What a coincidence. LOL. Yeah those school all "reported" the same scores and higher than Duke and higher than Stanford in the PAC . I know blind homers like you will believe anything that comes out of the SEC as gospel but you're not fooling anyone. Higher than Stanford ! LOL. Yeah , nothing to see here. What a joke .

 

[Texas Jefe]

Kid has been allowed to leave now I hear.

Also hear he may have failed some tests. His urine wasn't smart enough apparently.

Tough love?

Well, at Texas we are now the king of urINE. Got charts up all over, pointing out how to have champeenship urINE. Snyder should have consulted with our new leader.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

LOL. You're Fking killing me. You mean Alabama gives Sabans football players really good grades? I'm sure those boys all earned those grades because hey he sent someone down to make sure they are in class. Do you know that Alabama Auburn and Florida all had the exact same APR only trailing Vanderbilt in the SEC? What a coincidence. LOL. Yeah those school all "reported" the same scores and higher than Duke and higher than Stanford in the PAC . I know blind homers like you will believe anything that comes out of the SEC as gospel but you're not fooling anyone. Higher than Stanford ! LOL. Yeah , nothing to see here. What a joke .

Higher than Stanford?

 

[Ron G]

Alabama has a much higher APR than USC. If Alabama and USC both got 5-7 next year, Alabama will get into a bowl game before USC because of academics.

Other than making sure the kids go to class and get their degrees, what more can a head coach do exactly?

Funny you brought that up. Apparently, it is harder to graduate from USC than it is from the University of Alabama(Tuscaloosa)
Here are some Academic Rankings: US News and World Report USC 23 Alabama 103
College Niche USC 17 Alabama 141
Forbes USC 65 Alabama 335
Start Class USC 49 Alabama 103
So maybe Alabama does a better job at getting its football players through, but let's not imply that it is better academically. And don't even bring up Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Boston College, Rice, Berkley,
and the BIG 10 (pick one), Duke, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech University of Texas (Austin), and let us not forget Auburn at 231 in Forbes.

 

[4down20]

LOL. You're Fking killing me. You mean Alabama gives Sabans football players really good grades? I'm sure those boys all earned those grades because hey he sent someone down to make sure they are in class. Do you know that Alabama Auburn and Florida all had the exact same APR only trailing Vanderbilt in the SEC? What a coincidence. LOL. Yeah those school all "reported" the same scores and higher than Duke and higher than Stanford in the PAC . I know blind homers like you will believe anything that comes out of the SEC as gospel but you're not fooling anyone. Higher than Stanford ! LOL. Yeah , nothing to see here. What a joke .

Don't like the results so they must be cheating.

 

[4down20]

Funny you brought that up. Apparently, it is harder to graduate from USC than it is from the University of Alabama(Tuscaloosa)
Here are some Academic Rankings: US News and World Report USC 23 Alabama 103
College Niche USC 17 Alabama 141
Forbes USC 65 Alabama 335
Start Class USC 49 Alabama 103
So maybe Alabama does a better job at getting its football players through, but let's not imply that it is better academically. And don't even bring up Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Boston College, Rice, Berkley,
and the BIG 10 (pick one), Duke, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech University of Texas (Austin), and let us not forget Auburn at 231 in Forbes.

So now you are going to hold the coach responsible for the quality of the education?

The coach is responsible for making sure they get the education, the rest is up to the players.

Besides, those rankings you list are kind of dumb. The quality and difficulty of the education will depend in large part on the courses, and those individual programs will rank all over the place.

 

[Ron G]

So now you are going to hold the coach responsible for the quality of the education?

The coach is responsible for making sure they get the education, the rest is up to the players.

Besides, those rankings you list are kind of dumb. The quality and difficulty of the education will depend in large part on the courses, and those individual programs will rank all over the place.

If you are equating an Alabama degree with those of the schools I mentioned, then it is not the rankings that are dumb. Unless you actually get to the pros, a degree in football does not count. Not saying that a degree from Alabama is not good, but I would bet that anyone accepted to the schools I mentioned would also be accepted into Alabama, but the reverse, not so much.

 

[4down20]

If you are equating an Alabama degree with those of the schools I mentioned, then it is not the rankings that are dumb. Unless you actually get to the pros, a degree in football does not count. Not saying that a degree from Alabama is not good, but I would bet that anyone accepted to the schools I mentioned would also be accepted into Alabama, but the reverse, not so much.

And then?

 

[Ron G]

And then?

Sorry, don't understand your response.

 

[4down20]

Sorry, don't understand your response.

I don't understand why the quality of the degree is being talked about at all.

As I already said, it's not something the coaches exactly have control of. All they can do is make sure the players make education a priority.

I just figured you might try to make a point or say something relevent sooner or later.

 

[ralphiewvu]

No, they don't commit to the coach, and if they do - they are stupid.

You commit to the school.

You just admitted athletes commit to Saban but bama supplies the the resources you stupid fuck.

 

[ralphiewvu]

Funny, I just now came across this quote from a guy who just comitted to Ohio St this week.



Yes, Urban Meyer being the coach is why he went to Ohio St. But he committed to the school.

You're citing one guy after you just admitted athletes commit to Saban? Really?