Is KSU coach Snyder in the wrong or in the right?

[socaljim242]

I hate to break it to you, but he didn't need you to get into the Marines. They have people who recruit and they'll take anyone who qualifies.

lol. I hate to break it to you but I was the main reason he enlisted. He didn't even go see a recruiter till he had made up his mind. Since I was stationed at El Toro(California) I saw him and my friends all the time ( West Covina, Ca) and he loved hearing the stories of us Marines overseas. But hey it's funny you think you know him and how he came to become a Marine.

 

[socaljim242]

Do the current rules prevent kids from transfering? No, it simply discourages it.

There are plenty of cases where coaches buyouts does in fact prevent them from being hired by other schools and also keeps them from being fired. Citing a few instances where the buyout was seen as worth it doesn't change it.

I bet if Nick Saban was pulling transfers from your schools you guys would think this was the worse thing ever.

This isnt a case of a coach poaching a player . The kid gave him a list of 35 schools and Snyder denied all of them. It wasn't the kid saying I want to go to this specific school. I'm a USC fan and I had no issue with USC allowing a kid to transfer to Notre dame

 

[uncfan103]

Do the current rules prevent kids from transfering? No, it simply discourages it.

There are plenty of cases where coaches buyouts does in fact prevent them from being hired by other schools and also keeps them from being fired. Citing a few instances where the buyout was seen as worth it doesn't change it.

I bet if Nick Saban was pulling transfers from your schools you guys would think this was the worse thing ever.

The current rule DOESN'T discourage him from transferring. It makes it impossible without the coaches consent.

 

[4down20]

If that's truly the case, which it's not, then please link me to two examples of guys who transferred in the offseason to another division 1 school and weren't allowed a scholarship by their former head coach

They transfer to a JuCo for a year, and then they get recruited again fresh and go to another school.

Sometimes they do it because they've been kicked off teams, sometimes they do it to transfer.

You ever seen Last Chance U?

 

[4down20]

lol. I hate to break it to you but I was the main reason he enlisted. He didn't even go see a recruiter till he had made up his mind. Since I was stationed at El Toro(California) I saw him and my friends all the time ( West Covina, Ca) and he loved hearing the stories of us Marines overseas. But hey it's funny you think you know him and how he came to become a Marine.

So you didn't get him in as you claimed.

Ok.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

This isnt a case of a coach poaching a player . The kid gave him a list of 35 schools and Snyder denied all of them. It wasn't the kid saying I want to go to this specific school. I'm a USC fan and I had no issue with USC allowing a kid to transfer to Notre dame

Some coaches have no problems using medical hardships when it works in their favor.If a kid wants to transfer.Let him transfer imo. No need to make things difficult just to make things difficult.Or act like its something more than it actually is

 

[4down20]

This isnt a case of a coach poaching a player . The kid gave him a list of 35 schools and Snyder denied all of them. It wasn't the kid saying I want to go to this specific school. I'm a USC fan and I had no issue with USC allowing a kid to transfer to Notre dame

The list of 35 schools confirms that his desire to transfer was purely for football reasons and not academic reasons.

He can do what everyone else does, go to JuCo for a year and then get recruited again. Or he can study hard, graduate early and take a grad transfer - what other people do as well.

 

[4down20]

Some coaches have no problems using medical hardships when it works in their favor.If a kid wants to transfer.Let him transfer imo. No need to make things difficult just to make things difficult.Or act like its something more than it actually is

Medical hardships allow the kids to finish their education on scholarship and get the same benefits as players.

They aren't done wrong.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

The current rule DOESN'T discourage him from transferring. It makes it impossible without the coaches consent.

But some coaches have no problems.Utilizing medical hardships.In order to over sign. I can see not wanting a player to transfer in conference to a point. But to deny a player the ability to transfer all together........Procedures are manipulated by coaches all the time. When it benefits them. No real reason he shouldn't allow him to transfer. If he wants to go let him go.Otherwise the only thing being accomplished is fulfilling a personal agenda

 

[HuskerInSecLand]

I'm jumping in 7 pages late so what I say has probably been said but my take is this. I understand Snyder's reasons. It is hard for him to recruit so he has a policy of not granting transfers. Student didn't know that? Well he, his high school coaches, parents or whoever should of did due diligence before signing.
If they did then he went in with his eyes wide open.
As for it making it impossible for him to transfer, yes, transfer with an academic scholarship is not possible without permission.
But if he really hates it that bad then transfer without it. Pell grants, scholarships and student loans for a year. He can still practice with the school if I am correct. The other school cannot recruit him, he just can't play for a year and he can't have a scholarship for a year.
That sucks but think about it. He signed with Snyder, should of known Snyder's rules, so he either stays with Snyder or spends one year paying for college like any other kid and their parents.

Life sucks, move on.

 

[HuskerInSecLand]

The current rule DOESN'T discourage him from transferring. It makes it impossible, on an athletic scholarship, without the coaches consent.

FIFY. There are other options.

 

[uncfan103]

They transfer to a JuCo for a year, and then they get recruited again fresh and go to another school.

Sometimes they do it because they've been kicked off teams, sometimes they do it to transfer.

You ever seen Last Chance U?

They go to JUCO by choice or because they aren't recruited by other D1 programs. Not because the coaches don't allow them to go D1. Many many players every year go from one d1 school to another and they sit out a year. It's how the process works.

 

[socaljim242]

The list of 35 schools confirms that his desire to transfer was purely for football reasons and not academic reasons.

He can do what everyone else does, go to JuCo for a year and then get recruited again. Or he can study hard, graduate early and take a grad transfer - what other people do as well.

Tell me when Saban does anything for academic reasons and then I might listen to you.

 

[4down20]

They go to JUCO by choice or because they aren't recruited by other D1 programs. Not because the coaches don't allow them to go D1. Many many players every year go from one d1 school to another and they sit out a year. It's how the process works.

All I know is I see kids do it often.

Alvin Kamara ended up going to our own rival(Tennessee), he sure as hell wasn't granted a release.

What did he do?

Former Alabama RB Alvin Kamara headed to Kansas junior college (report)

Transfered to a JuCo in Kansas.

Then, a year later, he had an open recruitment and ended up going to Tennessee.

But apparently, this K-State kid is too good to do that and needs special treatment.

 

[socaljim242]

So you didn't get him in as you claimed.

Ok.

Lol. Hes the reason I have my son . His wife then gf introduced me to my sons mom. Or do you have alternative facts for that too? Lol.

 

[4down20]

Tell me when Saban does anything for academic reasons and then I might listen to you.

Alabama football is among the best schools in the country when it comes to APR.

Saban has people who go to each players class every day and makes sure they are in class.

But hey, pretend otherwise because you deem success as meaning education takes a back seat.

 

[4down20]

Lol. Hes the reason I have my son . His wife then gf introduced me to my sons mom. Or do you have alternative facts for that too? Lol.

Again, you didn't "get him in" to the Marines. As for everything else - good for you I guess, I don't really care about your private life to be honest.

I'm telling you that what I see college kids get in trouble for is usually grounds for a 45 day Article 15 and that's it. In some cases, probably only 7 day company grade article 15. You are the one who says otherwise and brings up all the rest.

 

[uncfan103]

The list of 35 schools confirms that his desire to transfer was purely for football reasons and not academic reasons.

He can do what everyone else does, go to JuCo for a year and then get recruited again. Or he can study hard, graduate early and take a grad transfer - what other people do as well.

Here's just a few examples of players granted their release to transfer
Jarrett Stidham
Raheem Falkins
Kyle Allen
Brandon Harris
Malik Zaire
Stanton Truitt


Took all of two minutes to find these names, so there's probably hundreds more. Corey Sutton is definitely good enough to be in that group.

 

[4down20]

Here's just a few examples of players granted their release to transfer
Jarrett Stidham
Raheem Falkins
Kyle Allen
Brandon Harris
Malik Zaire
Stanton Truitt


Took all of two minutes to find these names, so there's probably hundreds more. Corey Sutton is definitely good enough to be in that group.

So once again we are back to claiming that because someone else was given a release, everyone else should as well.

 

[uncfan103]

All I know is I see kids do it often.

Alvin Kamara ended up going to our own rival(Tennessee), he sure as hell wasn't granted a release.

What did he do?

Former Alabama RB Alvin Kamara headed to Kansas junior college (report)

Transfered to a JuCo in Kansas.

Then, a year later, he had an open recruitment and ended up going to Tennessee.

But apparently, this K-State kid is too good to do that and needs special treatment.

He was granted his release from Alabama and free to transfer to over 100 FBS schools. I think this shows you don't fully understand how the transfer process works.