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AND THIS IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT NOT TO DO ON DRAFT DAY... TO LISTEN TO THE COACHES!!!!

I mean didn't you read Joe's wonderfully written article??
Sure did, even left a comment on his site. The thing is I've never been a fan Carlos Hyde, so I'm in agreement with the article, everyone else can and will decide for themselves what they think about it.
 

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C.J. Anderson (RB – DEN)
There are some dynasty players who seem to be worried about Anderson with the signing of Jamaal Charles. Don’t be. This signing most likely had to do with the massive inefficiencies of Devontae Booker than anything. The Broncos have gone out and revamped their offensive line with the addition of top free agent guard Ron Leary from the Cowboys, as well as drafting left tackle Garrett Bolles with their first-round pick. Anderson has averaged 4.55 yards per carry over the last three years behind a shoddy offensive line, so it’s going to be fun to see what the next few years have in store for him. He may just re-enter the RB1 conversation, though his ADP is outside of the top 20 running backs right now.

So hard to trust. I only loved him a few years ago because of Kubiak, not because of anything within Anderson himself. I did win my big money league the year I drafted him in the 2nd round so no hate there, but it sure wasn't because of Anderson (and not because of my first round bust Andrew Luck either).
 

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Per Rotoworld - Eagles signed RB LeGarrette Blount, formerly of the Patriots, to a one-year contract.

His stock certainly goes up - all other Eagle RBs go down. ..... very glad that it wasn't the Ravens. ....

I disagree all the other guys go down. Sproles will still get his 150 touches (or however many were left after Pumphrey cuts into some of them). Blount just makes the whole offense better. Just putting a guess to it, he probably improves the offense by an extra set of downs a game (not sure of the exact right measurement here, but that's the gist). And Pumphrey probably gets worked in the same as before as they develop him. What they do have now is the pieces of a true committee behind a solid and deep line. They could rush for a whole bunch of yards as a unit, especially if Wentz can threaten down the field with the new threats there.
 

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I disagree all the other guys go down. Sproles will still get his 150 touches (or however many were left after Pumphrey cuts into some of them). Blount just makes the whole offense better. Just putting a guess to it, he probably improves the offense by an extra set of downs a game (not sure of the exact right measurement here, but that's the gist). And Pumphrey probably gets worked in the same as before as they develop him. What they do have now is the pieces of a true committee behind a solid and deep line. They could rush for a whole bunch of yards as a unit, especially if Wentz can threaten down the field with the new threats there.
If agree with you on Sprokes and Pumphrey, they'll be doing what they would've been doing regardless, but Smallwood loses his slim chance at replacing Mathews, even if it would've only been for a month or so. But the big loser, is the Corey Clement hype train. Went from having a legit shot at being at minimum a situational specialist, to fighting for a roster spot
 

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Sure did, even left a comment on his site. The thing is I've never been a fan Carlos Hyde, so I'm in agreement with the article, everyone else can and will decide for themselves what they think about it.


I am not questioning whether Williams could be the team's future... But going into the season, I feel very confident that Hyde will be the number one in SF and will average close to 20 touches per game...
 

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I am not questioning whether Williams could be the team's future... But going into the season, I feel very confident that Hyde will be the number one in SF and will average close to 20 touches per game...
I am in agreement here. I still think it is Hyde's job to lose. Even if Williams gets a large role Shanny has proven that his offense can support two fantasy RBs
 

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I am not questioning whether Williams could be the team's future... But going into the season, I feel very confident that Hyde will be the number one in SF and will average close to 20 touches per game...

Could be, but think this is his last year for the 49ers. New GM, new HC the SOP is to ship out players from the former regime and bring in your own hand selected guy. Doubt Hyde stays healthy any ways and that will open the door for Williams to show if he's up to the job. Not sure he is myself, but will take a wait and see approach on it. I know this, I'm not betting on Hyde this season or down the road either, you go ahead and place your bet on him if you like.
 

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I am in agreement here. I still think it is Hyde's job to lose. Even if Williams gets a large role Shanny has proven that his offense can support two fantasy RBs

Yeah, kind of figured you would agree with Milk here. You sorted have a vested interest in that being so.;)
 

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Could be, but think this is his last year for the 49ers. New GM, new HC the SOP is to ship out players from the former regime and bring in your own hand selected guy. Doubt Hyde stays healthy any ways and that will open the door for Williams to show if he's up to the job. Not sure he is myself, but will take a wait and see approach on it. I know this, I'm not betting on Hyde this season or down the road either, you go ahead and place your bet on him if you like.

sure, but all that explains is that he probably will have a short leash... They would be stupid not to start with Hyde, best case scenario is they run Hyde to the grave and have fresh Williams for the future...
 

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sure, but all that explains is that he probably will have a short leash... They would be stupid not to start with Hyde, best case scenario is they run Hyde to the grave and have fresh Williams for the future...

Be interesting to see where he gets drafted in our suicide league, bet he drops like a rock.
 

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Yeah, kind of figured you would agree with Milk here. You sorted have a vested interest in that being so.;)
I have always liked Hyde. This is just the first time I have ever owned him. He does have an issue staying healthy.
 

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If agree with you on Sprokes and Pumphrey, they'll be doing what they would've been doing regardless, but Smallwood loses his slim chance at replacing Mathews, even if it would've only been for a month or so. But the big loser, is the Corey Clement hype train. Went from having a legit shot at being at minimum a situational specialist, to fighting for a roster spot

I doubt he had a legit shot, my Eagles brethren overhyping of every "big" RB is nauseating, and I'm thankful these mass delusions were ended and proven to be nothing more than mass delusions.
 

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I doubt he had a legit shot, my Eagles brethren overhyping of every "big" RB is nauseating, and I'm thankful these mass delusions were ended and proven to be nothing more than mass delusions.
To be fair, he was starting to get national buzz, but yeah, point taken
 

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AND THIS IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT NOT TO DO ON DRAFT DAY... TO LISTEN TO THE COACHES!!!!

I mean didn't you read Joe's wonderfully written article??

Well, let's take a look at Kyle's history, starting once he finally escaped the shadow of his dad in Wash. and his buddy Kub's in Houston..
2014 Browns OC, near dead even split between the Crow and T. West once the Ben Tate project fizzled

2015 Falcons OC, Freeman obviously went off, but Coleman was a significant part, probably would've been a much closer split had Coleman not missed 4 games
2016 Falcons OC, again a split with Freeman and Coleman, this time even closer, and that's even with Coleman still missing 3 games

My point being, Kyle apparently loves the 2 back system. He mostly stuck with one while running Daddy's system (Helu, and then Alf), And while under Kub's thumb (same exact system btw, Slaton), but once he had the reigns to do it his way, it's been 2 guys sharing the load. So while I'm in no way convinced Joe Williams usurps Hyde outright, I am convinced he will get significant work, even if for no other reason than everyone is well aware that if Hyde does get 20 touches a game, it won't last long anyways
 

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AND THIS IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT NOT TO DO ON DRAFT DAY... TO LISTEN TO THE COACHES!!!!

I mean didn't you read Joe's wonderfully written article??
You guys are awesome.
This quote doesn't even seem to be coming from Kyle directly.
Seems to be coming from a CSN reporter - even more unreliable if you ask me.

Love the research Treff.
As a Hyde owner in D2, I'd love to see Hyde be the 3rd-down back and rack up some PPR.
 

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Jamaal Charles '50-50' to make 53-man roster?
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9 News Denver's Mike Klis puts Jamaal Charles' chances of making the Broncos' 53-man roster at "50-50."

Charles signed a low-guarantee, one-year, incentive-laden deal with Denver, so this absolutely makes sense. Charles is coming off multiple knee surgeries and setbacks and turns 31 later this year. If he can prove he's healthy, which is a big "if," then Charles won't have a problem cracking the Week 1 roster, but Denver has plenty of backfield options with C.J. Anderson coming back to health, Devontae Booker entering Year 2, and the selection of rookie De'Angelo Henderson. Charles is a risky mid- to late-round pick in summer fantasy drafts.
 

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Jamaal Charles '50-50' to make 53-man roster?
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9 News Denver's Mike Klis puts Jamaal Charles' chances of making the Broncos' 53-man roster at "50-50."

Charles signed a low-guarantee, one-year, incentive-laden deal with Denver, so this absolutely makes sense. Charles is coming off multiple knee surgeries and setbacks and turns 31 later this year. If he can prove he's healthy, which is a big "if," then Charles won't have a problem cracking the Week 1 roster, but Denver has plenty of backfield options with C.J. Anderson coming back to health, Devontae Booker entering Year 2, and the selection of rookie De'Angelo Henderson. Charles is a risky mid- to late-round pick in summer fantasy drafts.


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