Would you be happier?

[bbwvfan]

lmao now you switch to SI's wording of it because you don't like espn's

Starting July 1, the ACC's average annual media rights intake per school will surpass $20 million, according to a league source.
^^^^^^
thats CBS wording of it
ACC approves Grant of Rights deal - CBSSports.com

sounds pretty guaranteed to me.......

you really are pathetic if you have to resort to this BS. there are over 100 links out there that say 20 mill. get over it.

yoThe ACC network is already up & running. It is mostly online but also has a tv component to it. In time it will grow to be more profitable, ESPN is in talks with streaming rights with directTV for espnwatch. streaming falls outside a TV contract and that will mean more money for the ACC in the near future. NCAA tourny revenue is at an all time high and is set to double by 2017.

The ACC is just as stable $$$ wise as the big 12. and your reluctance to admit this just highlights your own insecurity about your own conference.

I never said the ACC was less stable than the Big 12. I have repeatedly said the ACC does not pay out as much as the wealthier Big 12.

As I cited with a link... it appears the ACC new contract is worth $260 million per year through the 2026-2027 season. Not sure how ND is compensated. But, this falls short of the kind of money the Big 12 is currently receiving.

 

[bbwvfan]

With new swagger, ACC moves ahead on network - SportsBusiness Daily | SportsBusiness Journal | SportsBusiness Daily Global


The conference’s recent additions — Notre Dame, Louisville, Pittsburgh and Syracuse — plus the grant of rights “enhance those discussions,” Swofford added. Those moves caused ESPN to sweeten its rights offer for an all-in media deal that will average $260 million a year through 2026-27. There are other contractual elements, sources said, that could push the value higher, especially if the conference starts its own network.

 

[john01992]

Source: Notre Dame, ACC safe from another Big Ten raid for now - CBSSports.com

I think you will find this lil link interesting:

Swarbrick was the second source in two days to say that the ACC will eventually be making more money per school than the Big 12. That would seemingly put to rest speculation that Florida State is trying to get out. Both of those conferences are behind the Big Ten, largely considered to be No. 1 in conference revenue at the moment.

One source said all the major conferences are within $500,000 of each other, hovering around the $20 million mark per year in annual per-school payout.

One source said the ACC is in the process of monetizing its soon-to-be lucrative digital network located in Charlotte, N.C. Industry sources are split on whether the ACC can do a full-on network similar to the Big Ten that would be able to throw off profit in a relatively short period of time.

“The point is, the ACC is not hurting,” the source said. “They [FSU] would have to take a pay cut if they went somewhere else.”

you really need to STFU. truth is you guys ate up everything from the acc smear campaign that was spearheaded by a wvu fan no less (the dude). it was based largely on misconceptions and white lies such as

1. that the acc only makes 17 mill. (in reality it is 20 mill)

2. that the b12 has a bowl tie in of 40 mill (the acc has a 49.5 mill combined in a ccg/bowl tie in as well)

3. the b12 makes 22.8 mill per school (it is actually 19.8 mill when split 10 ways equally)

4. the b12 makes several millions on tier 3 tv rights they retain as b12 members (the tier 3 advantage is only 1 mill-1.5 mill make per school per year with the exception of of TX/ou)

5. the b12 made 20 mill vs the acc 17 mill because the b12 is so much more valuable. (the b12 already had that contract when mizz/aggie were in the league. the reason why the acc is so low is because they had to negotiate a renewal with only a single company while the b12 had the luxury of negotiating a new deal and could field competing offers and ended up settling for foxsports a company that overpaid for the b12, big east & pac12 out of desperation due to the launch of FS1.

in reality the ACC is a lot better off than it seems and the potential to tap further revenue streams for the acc is wide open while the b12 has very little they can do to bring in more $$$ as they already used up every card they had in order to save the conference.

 

[bbwvfan]

Big 12 Announces Record Revenue At Spring Meetings - Big 12 Conference - Official Athletic Site


The board of directors ended the three-day get together Friday morning by announcing record earnings. The Conference will divide $198 million, up from last year's $187 million.

According to commissioner Bob Bowlsby, the record revenue is just starting.

"We'll get a pretty significant ramp up," he said. "Over the life of our television and other deals, the per-school distribution could move into the $30 million to $40 million range."

Most of the money comes from television revenue, the men's NCAA basketball tournament and bowl games.

 

[bbwvfan]

Source: Notre Dame, ACC safe from another Big Ten raid for now - CBSSports.com

I think you will find this lil link interesting:

Swarbrick was the second source in two days to say that the ACC will eventually be making more money per school than the Big 12. That would seemingly put to rest speculation that Florida State is trying to get out. Both of those conferences are behind the Big Ten, largely considered to be No. 1 in conference revenue at the moment.

One source said all the major conferences are within $500,000 of each other, hovering around the $20 million mark per year in annual per-school payout.

One source said the ACC is in the process of monetizing its soon-to-be lucrative digital network located in Charlotte, N.C. Industry sources are split on whether the ACC can do a full-on network similar to the Big Ten that would be able to throw off profit in a relatively short period of time.

“The point is, the ACC is not hurting,” the source said. “They [FSU] would have to take a pay cut if they went somewhere else.”

you really need to STFU. truth is you guys ate up everything from the acc smear campaign that was spearheaded by a wvu fan no less (the dude). it was based largely on misconceptions and white lies such as

1. that the acc only makes 17 mill. (in reality it is 20 mill)

2. that the b12 has a bowl tie in of 40 mill (the acc has a 49.5 mill combined in a ccg/bowl tie in as well)

3. the b12 makes 22.8 mill per school (it is actually 19.8 mill when split 10 ways equally)

4. the b12 makes several millions on tier 3 tv rights they retain as b12 members (the tier 3 advantage is only 1 mill-1.5 mill make per school per year with the exception of of TX/ou)

5. the b12 made 20 mill vs the acc 17 mill because the b12 is so much more valuable. (the b12 already had that contract when mizz/aggie were in the league. the reason why the acc is so low is because they had to negotiate a renewal with only a single company while the b12 had the luxury of negotiating a new deal and could field competing offers and ended up settling for foxsports a company that overpaid for the b12, big east & pac12 out of desperation due to the launch of FS1.

in reality the ACC is a lot better off than it seems and the potential to tap further revenue streams for the acc is wide open while the b12 has very little they can do to bring in more $$$ as they already used up every card they had in order to save the conference.

The silly fact that you have to include the CCG... when trying to compete against the Big 12's payout... is pathetic.

None of the $30-40 million the Big 12 schools are in line to receive include tier 3 media rights.

 

[john01992]

The silly fact that you have to include the CCG... when trying to compete against the Big 12's payout... is pathetic.

None of the $30-40 million the Big 12 schools are in line to receive include tier 3 media rights.

1. the b12 does not have a ccg. the acc does. that is an extra source of revenue that is worth over a million per school. so why not include it? oh....because it hurts your argument.....but yeah lets totally include the champs bowl

as usual you are picking & selecting what counts & does not count purely based on what makes your argument look better

2. you 37 mill figure included wvu's img contract. something that is tier 3. either that or you are citing the most BS made up number because the b12s tier 1+2 is only 19.8 mill.....so i dunno how you go from that to 30-40 mill (unless you magically doubled it for........)

 

[bbwvfan]

You know something Johnnie, you have not provided one source... not one... which actually details the payout total for the ACC. You have provided a number of links which mention the ACC payout per team... should.. match the other power conferences.


I provided a sportsbusiness cite which mentioned a definite dollar amount... $260 million per year. When splitting this 14+ ways... it does not match the other power conferences.


Until you actually bring us a legitimate source with legitimate facts... all you have done for 3 days is throw BS at us.


It has been fun messing with you. But, I am bored of your silly ways.


Try to keep it real...

 

[bbwvfan]

1. the b12 does not have a ccg. the acc does. that is an extra source of revenue that is worth over a million per school. so why not include it? oh....because it hurts your argument.....but yeah lets totally include the champs bowl

as usual you are picking & selecting what counts & does not count purely based on what makes your argument look better

2. you 37 mill figure included wvu's img contract. something that is tier 3. either that or you are citing the most BS made up number because the b12s tier 1+2 is only 19.8 mill.....so i dunno how you go from that to 30-40 mill (unless you magically doubled it for........)

You could not be more wrong... and, I have cited legit sources to validate.

 

[john01992]

You know something Johnnie, you have not provided one source... not one... which actually details the payout total for the ACC. You have provided a number of links which mention the ACC payout per team... should.. match the other power conferences.


I provided a sportsbusiness cite which mentioned a definite dollar amount... $260 million per year. When splitting this 14+ ways... it does not match the other power conferences.


Until you actually bring us a legitimate source with legitimate facts... all you have done for 3 days is throw BS at us.


It has been fun messing with you. But, I am bored of your silly ways.


Try to keep it real...

lmao. you keep saying what is universally reported by all the legitimate news sources in favor of asmall time blog that has out of date stats

 

[john01992]

You could not be more wrong... and, I have cited legit sources to validate.

your "legit" source is from the b12 official website with an exaggerated claim about how high b12 revenues could* be 12-15 years down the road. not only that but it talks about future revenue which the acc has a clear advantage in with online streaming, contract look ins, bowl/tourny revenue and this lil thing called a conference network.

*he used the word "could" and is a self interested source ==> so lets cut the crap here. if by that year the b12 is paying 40 mill per school then the acc is most likely paying 50 mill per school

 

[john01992]

$260 million for the current contract has not been reported by any major source as a yearly payout. The previous acc contract signed in 2003 was valued at.....wait for it......wait for it...... $260 million it is pretty clear cut that your source got it wrong and accidentally used the wrong figure. either that or it is the biggest coincidence that i have ever seen

 

[mad2mc]

why do you even care?

re you really that butt hurt about nobody in the BIG 12 caring that CU left that you have to troll BIG 12 boards to stir up a ruckus?

Really?

Face it, CU is the face of medicority when it comes to CFB (and other sports) and will be for years to come.

Tough shit, eh?

BB lives for idiots like Ol' Johnnie. This cold days are taking a toll on all of us especially when Lil' Johnnie has a snow day and Mommy gives him some computer time. Hopefully she will make him break out the crayons and coloring book.

 

[GoldRusher]

BB lives for idiots like Ol' Johnnie. This cold days are taking a toll on all of us especially when Lil' Johnnie has a snow day and Mommy gives him some computer time. Hopefully she will make him break out the crayons and coloring book.

BB has a way of working them with the jab them BOOM, game over. Another on bites the dust, its like watching a fine artist at work

 

[TexasExes98]

Oh for fuck's sake John, why do you give two shits what WVU or any Big 12 school is pulling in financially? Not sure why you're on some crusade trolling WVU's board, begging them to talk shit about their new conference, when in fact, they love that West Virginia University is a member of the Big 12. Why is it a big deal to you if Big 12 members are making more money than ACC members, or vice versa? Who GIVES A FLYING FUCK? Do you ever wonder why you get banned?

 

[Wheat]

well, he did admit he was a troll, but as was pointed out, not really a very good one. I mean CU is long gone and who cares?

NOBODY!~

 

[bbwvfan]

ACC, ESPN agree on $3.6 billion TV rights deal | College | NewsObserver.com

I love when some stupid ass tries to argue. Anyone who'd suggest a school like New Mexico for the Big 12... has to be a stupid ass.

$3.6 Billion over 15 years was the 2012 contract. That works out to $240 million per year. Divide $240 million by 14, and you get the $17 million per year that has been widely accepted as the ACC payout per team.

The addition of ND brought a new contract with ESPN of $260 million per year. Not a great addition.

Especially to make a bed with the likes of ND. Too funny...

 

[john01992]

ACC, ESPN agree on $3.6 billion TV rights deal | College | NewsObserver.com

I love when some stupid ass tries to argue. Anyone who'd suggest a school like New Mexico for the Big 12... has to be a stupid ass.

$3.6 Billion over 15 years was the 2012 contract. That works out to $240 million per year. Divide $240 million by 14, and you get the $17 million per year that has been widely accepted as the ACC payout per team.

The addition of ND brought a new contract with ESPN of $260 million per year. Not a great addition.

Especially to make a bed with the likes of ND. Too funny...

we have been over this so many times..........
those are the figures from the pre-notre dame acc contract.

notice how that article is dated may 10th 2012

 

[john01992]

the $260 million figure is wrong plain & simple.

nowhere does it pop up on google as the new TV contract # with notre dame. nowhere does 3.9 bill (260 x 15) show up for the acc. what DOES seem to show up is article after article from major networks/newspapers that say the acc contract has risen to 20 mill per team with the addition of notre dame.

 

[john01992]

Oh for fuck's sake John, why do you give two shits what WVU or any Big 12 school is pulling in financially? Not sure why you're on some crusade trolling WVU's board, begging them to talk shit about their new conference, when in fact, they love that West Virginia University is a member of the Big 12. Why is it a big deal to you if Big 12 members are making more money than ACC members, or vice versa? Who GIVES A FLYING FUCK? Do you ever wonder why you get banned?

all I am doing is clarifying a misconception it was a wvu fan who brought this up and all i did was mention that they were wrong on that.

 

[john01992]

well, he did admit he was a troll, but as was pointed out, not really a very good one. I mean CU is long gone and who cares?

NOBODY!~

well seeing that it lead to nebraska, texas A&M, & missouri all leaving right afterwards.........

yeah id say it turned out to be a pretty big deal.