With the 2nd pick...the RAMS select...

[Clayton]

If a Qb doesn't go #1 it means there is no good qb in the draft and the pick has little trade value.

 

[Naughtymax]

If a Qb doesn't go #1 it means there is no good qb in the draft and the pick has little trade value.

There is no good QB in the draft, but it doesn't stop teams from rolling the dice on the Alex Smiths of the world. The 3, 4, and 5 teams all need QBs badly, as do the Titans, and if Clowney goes #1 the Rams will get to hold an auction. In a perfect world the Titans will lose their minds and trade 11, 42, and next year's #1 for #2, which the Rams should take.

 

[Shanemansj13]

They can get a WR with their second pick. Watkins is special, but I say OL. Matthews or Robinson, I went with Matthews. I say you can't lose eith either of them though.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

With Houston already drafting Clowney in these mocks, I expect Cleveland to trade up to The #2 spot selecting Manziel, giving up their #4, #35 and 2015 2nd or 3rd round pick.

 

[Clayton]

There is no good QB in the draft, but it doesn't stop teams from rolling the dice on the Alex Smiths of the world.

To be fair to NFL GMs, every QB comes out with a ton of scrutiny. I think Andrew Luck is the only guy that escaped criticism in the past decade or so

 

[JDM]

With Houston already drafting Clowney in these mocks, I expect Cleveland to trade up to The #2 spot selecting Manziel, giving up their #4, #35 and 2015 2nd or 3rd round pick.

Why trade up for a guy who will almost certainly be there at their pick?

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Why trade up for a guy who will almost certainly be there at their pick?[/quote]

The old Regime of Banner and Lombardi were high on Manziel. Whether that's still in play with new GM Farmer is questionable. Bridgewater, IMO, is the better selection but Cleveland will want to beat out Jax for whatever QB they deem as their #1.

No one person can state matter of fact that x player will definitely be available at #4 overall, even though I've read your hatred for Manziel.

I expect Houston to take Bortles, not Clowney, in the upcoming draft.

Cleveland is a tough stadium for a QB who doesn't have great arm strength when it gets into November and the fierce, cold, blustery winds come from Lake Erie.

 

[JDM]

How is reality hate? Nothing about him even hints NFL capable, let alone NFL ready. Absolute best case (and this is absurdly generous), he's a project, and you don't draft a project in the first half of the first round.

 

[RobBase]

This one is a lot closer than the Texans poll. Looks like Watkins or a LT for sure.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

How is reality hate? Nothing about him even hints NFL capable, let alone NFL ready. Absolute best case (and this is absurdly generous), he's a project, and you don't draft a project in the first half of the first round.

Since when is your opinion 'reality'? I'm still waiting on how Russell Wilson just won a Super Bowl as a slightly small and slower version of Manziel.

And before you say the defense won the Super Bowl -- I will give you one of two choices.

1. Tom Brady shouldn't be considered one of the best QBs of all time because his playoffs stats have been pedestrian, outside of NE W/L record. So it must have been NE's defense winning it for them.

2. Russell Wilson had a lot to do with Seattle winning the Super Bowl, as he had 123 QB rating with 2 tds while completing 67% of his passes.

 

[JDM]

Russell Wilson has done nothing yet. However, Russell Wilson is both much better as a passer and much more intelligent than Manziel.

Manziel will be among the worst in the league at both things, and at everything else of significance.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Russell Wilson has done nothing yet. However, Russell Wilson is both much better as a passer and much more intelligent than Manziel.

Manziel will be among the worst in the league at both things, and at everything else of significance.

So a 4-1 playoff record thru his 2nd year in the league with a QB rating of 101.6 and a super bowl is nothing?!?!

I know it isn't an 87 rating with 22 interceptions in 26 games, but at some point you have to give the guy credit.

 

[Clayton]

Russell Wilson has done nothing yet.

 

[themuzzer]

Someday maturity and smarts will catch scouts eye and trump talent when drafting....Russell doesn't have the big arm, he's not the fastest, he's short......But what Russell does is prepare, he has passion....Guys that want the paycheck don't need to be on our team.....

Remember this is a team sport....Give me 53 guys that want the same thing and you will have a winner.....Half that want fame, half that want money and I'll show you a loser.

 

[JDM]

So a 4-1 playoff record thru his 2nd year in the league with a QB rating of 101.6 and a super bowl is nothing?!?!

I know it isn't an 87 rating with 22 interceptions in 26 games, but at some point you have to give the guy credit.

Yes, what he has done so far is nothing. That team is stacked and put him in great position, but he has not carried anything or shown the ability to do so.

 

[RobBase]

Russell Wilson has done nothing yet.

 

[SonnyCID]

Wilson has done more in his first two years than just about any QB in NFL history. But it's not enough for JDM. The real kicker is when someone is sold on RG3, but thinks that Wilson still has much to prove.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Yes, what he has done so far is nothing. That team is stacked and put him in great position, but he has not carried anything or shown the ability to do so.

Just so I can grasp what you are saying. So Tom Brady hasn't done anything in your eyes either? He hasn't carried NE in the playoffs during their super bowl runs. His most efficient year was, year 3, and he only threw for 190 yards a game on average.

 

[RobBase]

Brady is elite. Wilson is incredible. Future HOF if Seattle stays competitive for many years. A QB doesn't need to carry a team on his back to a Lombardi to considered great.

 

[RobBase]

Whoa, Watkins takes a nice lead over the tackles thanks to some Ram fan votes. Huge.