Which RG Do We Target and Which Round?

[EKmane]

With rg being a clear need now, and especially after the season, where is a good spot to target a rg? Let's say we'll be drafting around 27-28. Let's say Cordy Glenn is there. It seems the guard class gets thin after DeCastro, Glenn, Osemele and Zietler. I don't see either one of those guys being there when we pick in round 2. Is it worth it to pass on a position that clearly creates a problem when not properly protected? I just don't see the logic?

If we resign Rodgers I don't think our secondary will be thin with Culliver playing well and becoming a year more experienced. I think that is a deep position that can be addressed in the 3rd (for depth). I think a fs can be had in the 2nd (McDonald,Martin or Lester).

 

[I_am_1z]

I rather get a Center in the 1st round. Goodwin has been getting no push this entire season. Staley claims Goodwin along with himself is a leader on the OL and correct me if I'm wrong, but i believe C has priority over G. Plus we still haven't seen Kilgore

 

[EKmane]

I rather get a Center in the 1st round. Goodwin has been getting no push this entire season. Staley claims Goodwin along with himself is a leader on the OL and correct me if I'm wrong, but i believe C has priority over G. Plus we still haven't seen Kilgore

Goodwin has ancored the way to a Superbowl victory. Kilgore would be better served for depth, as Boone is to both tackle spots. The thing that I've noticed was we had major o line breakdowns in the first two games of the season, as well as in the last game. The thing that was the same in all 3 was Rachal at rg and Norris at fb. These were the only games that we couldn't find any running room, as well as had a complete o line malfunction.

I would think that your correct in a normal scenario about c having priority over og. Iupati has worked out very well for us also I might add.

 

[I_am_1z]

Goodwin has ancored the way to a Superbowl victory. Kilgore would be better served for depth, as Boone is to both tackle spots. The thing that I've noticed was we had major o line breakdowns in the first two games of the season, as well as in the last game. The thing that was the same in all 3 was Rachal at rg and Norris at fb. These were the only games that we couldn't find any running room, as well as had a complete o line malfunction.

I would think that your correct in a normal scenario about c having priority over og. Iupati has worked out very well for us also I might add.

Goodwin by this Sunday will be 33 years old and he has seriously declined since last year.

 

[NinerSickness]

I think C and RG are both needs. JMHO. There will probably be a couple of good ones, but I wouldn't spend a 1st on eiyther one (the guys from Ohio St & Wisconson come to mind).

I'd LOVE to get Cordy Glenn in the 1st. I'm very impressed by him; Clyde disagree with me, but I think he'd make a beast of a RG. And his lateral quickness would could be a help to Davis & make him look better.

DeCastro would be great too, but I think he'd be a better LG than RG.

 

[luckyluke22]

The problem I'd have with spending a first rounder on a RG is then our whole Oline (minus C) is first rounders. To me that's ridiculous. I also feel David needs a veteran presence, maybe why he and Snyder have worked out well. So if I were in charge I'd bring Snyder back or look to FA for a veteran. Goodwin still had another year left in him (signed for three right?) so let Kilgore/Beeler develop. Get a WR or OLB or DB with our first, IMO

 

[NinerSickness]

The problem I'd have with spending a first rounder on a RG is then our whole Oline (minus C) is first rounders.

Well, just because they're first rounders doesn't mean OL isn't a huge need. If a dynamo RG is there in the late first I'd probably take him unless it's a deep 1st round with some talent on the front 7 or at CB (or #1 WR, but I'm pretty sure there won't be one).

I also feel David needs a veteran presence, maybe why he and Snyder have worked out well.

Well, by next season Davis will be a veteran presence.

So if I were in charge I'd bring Snyder back or look to FA for a veteran.

BLEH! No thank you. Snyder is garbage.

 

[luckyluke22]

Snyder is competent. Rachal is garbage.

If OG is the BPA then go ahead, but claiming its a huge need after Snyder gets injured doesn't constitute spending a first rounder.

 

[NinerSickness]

Snyder is competent. Rachal is garbage.

I humbly disagree with that. Snyder is bad. He's not as bad as Rachal, but he's bad IMO. And not the good kind of bad; just bad.

If OG is the BPA then go ahead, but claiming its a huge need after Snyder gets injured doesn't constitute spending a first rounder.

We're in agreement on this part.

 

[Flyingiguana]

i'd rather sign a vet at rg or even rt and move davis to rg where i think he can be a pro bowler. brewster might be available in the 2nd to play c.

 

[threelittleturds]

I'm looking forward to seeing Kilgore move over to RG during the offseason, he showed some good stuff in preseason.. and there isn't any point in wasting him behind Iupati. So, to me, RG isn't a huge need when it comes to draft...

QB, OLB, CB are still bigger needs in whichever order is BPA. So, maybe 4th or 5th round would be a nice spot for a RG

 

[EKmane]

I think C and RG are both needs. JMHO. There will probably be a couple of good ones, but I wouldn't spend a 1st on eiyther one (the guys from Ohio St & Wisconson come to mind).

I'd LOVE to get Cordy Glenn in the 1st. I'm very impressed by him; Clyde disagree with me, but I think he'd make a beast of a RG. And his lateral quickness would could be a help to Davis & make him look better.

DeCastro would be great too, but I think he'd be a better LG than RG.

You threw me off from one paragragh to the next. First you say you wouldn't spend a very late 1st on a rg, then you say you would love to draft Glenn in the first? Do you mean you'd move Glenn to rt and Davis to rg? Just curious?

 

[clyde_carbon]

I think C and RG are both needs. JMHO. There will probably be a couple of good ones, but I wouldn't spend a 1st on eiyther one (the guys from Ohio St & Wisconson come to mind).

I'd LOVE to get Cordy Glenn in the 1st. I'm very impressed by him; Clyde disagree with me, but I think he'd make a beast of a RG. And his lateral quickness would could be a help to Davis & make him look better.

DeCastro would be great too, but I think he'd be a better LG than RG.

Not necessarily. He's not my top G prospects, but that doesn't mean I don't like him. I wouldn't take him in the first, though.

 

[clyde_carbon]

Well, just because they're first rounders doesn't mean OL isn't a huge need. If a dynamo RG is there in the late first I'd probably take him unless it's a deep 1st round with some talent on the front 7 or at CB (or #1 WR, but I'm pretty sure there won't be one).



Well, by next season Davis will be a veteran presence.



BLEH! No thank you. Snyder is garbage.

What's a dynamo RG?

 

[numone9er]

Not necessarily. He's not my top G prospects, but that doesn't mean I don't like him. I wouldn't take him in the first, though.

Same here. That spot could be filled later on or in FA. At least we are looking at a late first rounder. QB, WR, or CB would serve us better.

 

[CalamityX11]

I wouldn't be opposed to a G in the first considering we're late in the drafting order.

Chances are, we'll get 2nd/3rd rate CBs, WRs, OLBs by our pick when a highly rated C/G might be available to as well. Maybe FS too but since I haven't par take in prospect disucssions )) i wouldn't know!

 

[maniax]

Late in the 1st round seems to be the sweet spot for starting guards and centers.

I'm all for it.

 

[NinerSickness]

You threw me off from one paragragh to the next. First you say you wouldn't spend a very late 1st on a rg, then you say you would love to draft Glenn in the first? Do you mean you'd move Glenn to rt and Davis to rg? Just curious?

Sorry; I didn't say that correctly. I said, "I think C and RG are both needs. JMHO. There will probably be a couple of good ones, but I wouldn't spend a 1st on eiyther one (the guys from Ohio St & Wisconson come to mind)."

What I meant to say was I wouldn't draft a C in the first round. The couple of good ones were Mike Brewster and the guy from Wisconson whose name I keep forgetting. Peter Something? RG?

I'd probably take Glenn in the 1st if he were there and a great front 7 guy or CB didn't drop. And there are a few other guards who might even be better than Glenn. Jones from 'Bama, Warmak from 'Bama, I haven't seen the guy from Iowa State play a single snap, but people really seem to like him. And Decastro of course. It's a really deep OG draft (luckily).

As far as Davis to RG goes I wouldn't be opposed to that at all if he keeps struggling with speed rushers. If they can get a good RT for cheap I'd be fine with that. I wouldn't spend a lot of money on it though; if maybe a good veteran who's making an astronomical salary gets cut maybe he could be had for cheap. I don't want the Niners to draft a tackle in the first 2 rounds though. It's a weak OT draft IMO. Kalil could be a future HOFer, and he should EASILY be the 1st non-QB off the board. But after him it's not great.

 

[Flyingiguana]

I'm looking forward to seeing Kilgore move over to RG during the offseason, he showed some good stuff in preseason.. and there isn't any point in wasting him behind Iupati. So, to me, RG isn't a huge need when it comes to draft...

QB, OLB, CB are still bigger needs in whichever order is BPA. So, maybe 4th or 5th round would be a nice spot for a RG

late 1st u kinda gotta take what the draft gives you. c and g seem to be pretty stacked this year. brewster is high on my shopping list. it's possible we can get a good g in the 3rd but i'm really hoping for jonas gray at that spot. who might be the best rb i've seen at notre dame. altho he was a late bloomer.

i was taking a look at mike adams, but i don't think he's an upgrade over davis

 

[dredinis21]

I am of the belief that we need to BUY our next RG and draft a young C. We have Kilgore in development as well as a young RT in Davis that would definitely benefit from a veteran presence in the interior. This draft, and Clyde and other draftniks correct me if I'm wrong, seems far more stacked at C then OG.

I would also like to see us take the opposite route in drafting OL from what has been done so we don't make the same mistakes a la Rachal. I would like our focus in OL to be primarily from schools such as Wisconsin, who have a track record of fundamentally sound OL as opposed to the biggest guy on the best team. Rachal was a KNOWN project when we drafted him in the 2nd round. That is a kid who because of God-given size and strength never HAD to focus on technique and footwork. Not to keep bringing up the 80's and 90's Niners, but our OL were all fundamentally sound (big testament to McKittrick, who only had one 1st rd draft pick while he was here in Harris Barton) and were consistent game after game. We have Iupati and Davis as our anchors in the OL for the next decade, now let's find some consistent play surrounding them.