What players remain 4 U in rounds 4 thru 7

[Gulf of Brazil]

LB/S Telvin Smith
DE Larry Webster
DT Caraun Reid
DT Kelcy Quarles
WR Kevin Noorwood
WR Jared Abbrederis
CB Pierre Desir
FS Marqueston Huff
WR Bruce Ellington
QB AJ McCarron
WR Martavis Bryant
OC Russell Bodine
CB Keith McGill
CB Jaylen Watkins
CB Marcus Roberson
CB Antone Exum
QB Tom Savage
QB Aaron Murray
SS Brock Vereen
WR Robert Herron
OT Antonio "tiny" Richardson
DE Chris Smith
RB De Anthony Thomas
QB Zack Mettenberger
DE James Gayle
DT Anthony Johnson
OLB Jordie Trpp
WR Shaq Evans
SS Ahmad Dixon
ILB Shane Skov
OLB Howard Jones
WR Jeff Janis
OT James Hurst
CB Loucheiz Purifoy
SS Dion Bailey
WR Matt Hazel
FS Ed Reynolds
QB Connor Shaw
QB Taj Boyd
SS Vinnie Sunseri
ss Kenny Ladler
PK Anthony Fera
PK Nate Freese
PK Chris Boswell

 

[black_magic]

There's some really good CB's left. Would also like a QB and a Kicker. Here's my list.

CB: Keith McGill, Peire Desir, Marcus Roberson, Antone Exum
QB: Mccarron, Mettenberger, Murray, Savage, Fales
MSC: Janis WR, Tripp OLB, Telvin Smith, Anthony Fera, Deanthony Thomas, Larry Webster.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

I'm going
#133 OLB/S Hybrid Telvin (Ganja) Smith or WR Kevin Norwood
#136 DE Larry Webster or DT Caraun Reid
#172 QB Aaron Murray or QB Taj Boyd
#189 WR Jeff Janis or PK Nate Freese (which most PK are UDFA's, really no one stand's out this yr)

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Lions slotted #'s for tomorrows picks are


#133 non-trade comp pick (4th rd)
#136 non-trade comp pick (4th rd)
#146 from Seattle in their 2nd rd trade up(a 5th rd pick)
#189 (6th rd pick)
#227 traded to Seattle for moving up from original #45 to #40 Seattle via Minnesota


I inexplicably thought we received Seattle's 5th rd pick #172, that is INCORRECT

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Detroit's trade with Seattle on the Jimmy Johnson Point Value Chart


Seattle #40 = 500 points..... #146 = 33 points ..........................Total Points 533
Detroit #45 = 450 points..... #111 = 72 points #227 = 2 points....Total Points 524

 

[Rollingthndr]

Let's not be silly, we need DeAnthony Thomas. Always need a 4th RB to compliment the other 3 rb's.

 

[LPinSLC]

Keith McGill

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Let's not be silly, we need DeAnthony Thomas. Always need a 4th RB to compliment the other 3 rb's.

should we throw in one more TE and two WR's

 

[Stomp]

There are 3 2nd round graded guards still on the board too David Yankey, Cyril Richardson, and Dakota Dozier. All good replacements for Sims next year if he leaves.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

should we throw in one more TE

Don't laugh -- if the Lions draft Larry Webster, many sites project him to be moved to TE, because of his basketball background and speed.

Here are the rankings of players left at TE on CBS:
TIGHT END
1. Arthur Lynch, Georgia (6-5, 258)
2. Larry Webster, Bloomsburg (6-6, 252)
3. Rob Blanchflower, Massachusetts (6-4, 256)
4. Jake Murphy, Utah (6-4, 249)
5. Blake Annen, Cincinnati (6-4, 247)

 

[Microwahevo]

Again, in no particular order:

-Keith McGill-----Big corner that is still a bit raw, but has tremendous upside.
-Ed Reynolds-----Smart safety that played on a tough defense. Could learn a lot from Quin.
-Aaron Murray-----I've wanted the Lions to grab in in the later rounds since forever. He has played in the same pro system that Stafford has, has faced the top defenses year in and year out, and could have a great learning relationship with a former Bulldog. Maybe Matty could convince the F.O. of this pick?

 

[Dr. Evil-er]

We are entering the 4th rd, this is not the place to draft another CB. You are looking at developmental talent only and we already have that. If we add a DB it has to be a S. Maybe someone like Bailey or Dixon.

I think a G makes sense as many quality starters are found for that position at this stage in the draft. Certainly a developmental DE who can rotate in next season with Ziggy and Taylor makes sense. Another DT and WR are needed and I think it's a pick well spent to get the highest ranked K.

I would also love to see the Lions make a couple small trades to acquire several 7th rd picks. I have never given it an in depth study but have sort of paid more attention at the end of the draft where smart teams like the Pats will select players that were rated much higher but have fallen for character, injury, or other undisclosed reasons. Many of those picks by teams have panned out very well. Every pick there would be ones with a huge reward possibility and virtually no risk. Think Alphonso Dennard for just one example.

 

[tpaulus_2]

I really like this Jerome Couplin kid that I just read about this a.m. He'a a smaller school freakish athlete, ala Chris Greenwood, but played FBS Subdivision or whatever the old Division One-AA is called now, not D-II or D-III (like Greenwood). Also sounds like he's farther along than Greenwood in his development and has great instincts and high character. William & Mary is a good school, so you know the kid aint no dummy, either.

Here's his numbers and such that I lifted from this website: http://www.*****************/forum/nfl-draft/178022-jerome-couplin-iii-william-amp-mary/ *

Jerome Couplin III 6´1 213 William & Mary

- First-Team All-American The Associated Press, The Sports Network, Walter Camp Foundation
- Finalist for Buck Buchanan Award ( Best Defensive Player In College Football )

2013 113 tackles, 70 solo tackles, 2,5 for loss, 6 pass break ups, 2 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery for 51 yrds touchdown, 5.8 solo tackles per game ( ranked 11th nationally )

Pro Day Numbers
40 Yrd Dash 4.55
10 Yrd Dash 1.59
Bench 18
Vertical 41 1/2 "
Broad 11´02"
20 Yrd Shuttle 4.41
3-Cone Drill 6.94

He is a very instinctive player, a terrific tackler and highly competitive. With his physical style of play, his terrific athleticism and long arms ( 80-inch wingspan ) he might even be able to become a press corner. I think next season he could be a terrific ST player and would provide very good competition for the safety back up spot.


His three-cone drill jumps out to me- shows good change-of-dirction skills. They list his wingspan at 80", I've read 82". Either way, that's insane. Add another 15 lbs to that 6'1" frame and let him learn behind 'Digs for the next two years and he could be a difference-maker on the back end...

 

[tpaulus_2]

We are entering the 4th rd, this is not the place to draft another CB. You are looking at developmental talent only and we already have that. If we add a DB it has to be a S. Maybe someone like Bailey or Dixon.

I think a G makes sense as many quality starters are found for that position at this stage in the draft. Certainly a developmental DE who can rotate in next season with Ziggy and Taylor makes sense. Another DT and WR are needed and I think it's a pick well spent to get the highest ranked K.

I would also love to see the Lions make a couple small trades to acquire several 7th rd picks. I have never given it an in depth study but have sort of paid more attention at the end of the draft where smart teams like the Pats will select players that were rated much higher but have fallen for character, injury, or other undisclosed reasons. Many of those picks by teams have panned out very well. Every pick there would be ones with a huge reward possibility and virtually no risk. Think Alphonso Dennard for just one example.

David Yankee wasn't supposed to slide nearly this far from what I remember reading about him. If he's still there in the 4th he'd be a great addition.

 

[Old Lion]

I don't think we can ignore DE and WR. Webster might work. I would be on board with a back up QB too. 7th rd kicker.


At this point the names are probably irrelevant.

 

[tpaulus_2]

Also from that same article/forum/website/whatever I linked above:

Here are some other wotkouts to put his numbers into perspective

Jerome Couplin 6´1 213
40 Yrd Dash 4.55
10 Yrd Dash 1.59
Bench 18
Vertical 41 1/2"
Broad 11´02"
20 Yrd Shuttle 4.41
3-Cone Drill 6.94

Eric Reid 6´1 213
40 Yrd Dash 4.49 Pro Day 4.50
10 Yrd Dash 1.53 Pro Day 1.54
Bench 17
Vertical 40 1/2"
Broad 11´02"
20 Yrd Shuttle 4.22
3-Cone Drill 6.99

Calvin Pryor 5´11" 207
40 Yrd Dash 4.58
10 Yrd Dash N/A
Bench 18
Vertical 34 1/2"
Broad 09´08"
20 Yrd Shuttle N/A Pro Day 4.30
3-Cone Drill N/A Pro Day 6.98

Hasean Clinton Dix 6´1 208
40 Yrd Dash 4.58
10 Yrd Dash N/A
Bench 11
Vertical 33"
Broad 09´11"
20 Yrd Shuttle 4.16
3-Cone Drill 7.16

Deone Bucannon 6´1 211
40 Yrd Dash 4.49
10 Yrd Dash N/A
Bench 19
Vertical 36 1/2
Broad 10´05"
20 Yrd Shuttle 4.26
3-Cone Drill 6.96

 

[tpaulus_2]

If we drafted Yankey we'd have 5 starting linemen next year (2015) all 26 years old (Reiff) or younger...

 

[Old Lion]

I don't think we can ignore DE and WR. Webster might work. I would be on board with a back up QB too. 7th rd kicker.


At this point the names are probably irrelevant.

Oops, make that 6th rd kicker

 

[tpaulus_2]

Agreed, a kicker in the 6th would cap off a good draft so far. We haven't made the sexiest picks so far, but they'll all be starters (Ebron and Van Noy right away, Swanson 2015 or 2016) and look to project as long-term solutions at their positions.

We have tons of options in the 4th and 5th for guys who could be good starters with a few years of coaching, and getting a "starting" kicker in the 6th would fill a big hole...

 

[Old Lion]

I think based on the position values the order would have to be:


WR & QB at 133 and 136, too close together to make a difference
DE @ 146
K @ 189


My preference might be to trade up to get the WR we want with next years 5th and take a QB at 136