Top 32 tournament CF Beltran vs Burks

[obxyankeefan]

Top 32 players ranked by BRWAR(as of 6/18/15).

Centerfield Bracket is:

1 W Mays 9
32 M Cameron 0

16 J Wynn
17 C Lemon

8 C Beltran
25 E Burks

9 D Snider
24 F Lynn

4 M Mantle
29 E Averill

13 W Davis
20 C Cedeno

5 K Griffey JR
28 B Williams

12 A Jones
21 J O' Rourke

3 T Speaker
30 D White

14 J Edmonds
19 V Pinson

6 J DiMaggio
27 B Butler

11 B Hamilton
22 K Puckett

2 T Cobb
31 T Leach

15 J Damon
18 M Carey

7 K Lofton
26 L Doby

10 R Ashhburn
23 T Hunter

 

[obxyankeefan]

Carlos Beltran Statistics and History | Baseball-Reference.com

Ellis Burks Statistics and History | Baseball-Reference.com

 

[obxyankeefan]

The great Boston OF of Burks, Greenwell, and whoever was in right. (Plaintier?) For some reason the hatred of Boston players just wasn't there for that group that came up in the late 80s early 90s, IMO. Mo Vaughn was different story though.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

this is surprisingly close... Burks has the better OBP, slugging%, and of course OPS(but all are semi close)... Burks has a better HR/AB%... Burks has the best one season...

But you have to give it to beltran for these 2 reasons... He was a better defender, and he played significantly more games in the same amount of years...

And no I am not mentioning SB, I don't think they are very important for a player that should not be slotted one or two in the lineup...

 

[MilkSpiller22]

cant wait to see the 7 vs 10... that will be a great battle...

 

[calsnowskier]

As a Giants fan, my homerism falls strong on Burks. He was a great Giant. Beltran, however, was not. When he came over, he played horrible, went on the DL, and when got back the Giants were already out of it. That is when he went off and put up all his great numbers. Hollow. Not to mention he cost us Wheeler.

But the unbiased (with my non-Giants bias, at least) says this has to go to Beltran. Burks best numbers were put up in Colorado. Hard to reward a guy for his best seasons when they came there.

 

[HammerDown]

Name a player who's done more PEDs than Carlos Beltran. Bet you can't name many.

 

[StanMarsh51]

As a Giants fan, my homerism falls strong on Burks. He was a great Giant. Beltran, however, was not. When he came over, he played horrible, went on the DL, and when got back the Giants were already out of it. That is when he went off and put up all his great numbers. Hollow. Not to mention he cost us Wheeler.

But the unbiased (with my non-Giants bias, at least) says this has to go to Beltran. Burks best numbers were put up in Colorado. Hard to reward a guy for his best seasons when they came there.

In all fairness, although the Giants were struggling at the time Beltran came back, they were just 1.5 games out of 1st place on Aug 23 (the day of his return from the DL).

Hitting-wise, they're quite close, but Beltran provided much more value all around given he was a terrific baserunner and basestealer and was much better in the field up until his legs started to go in his early 30s.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Name a player who's done more PEDs than Carlos Beltran. Bet you can't name many.

Ken Caminitti

 

[navamind]

Beltran.

 

[navamind]

The great Boston OF of Burks, Greenwell, and whoever was in right. (Plaintier?) For some reason the hatred of Boston players just wasn't there for that group that came up in the late 80s early 90s, IMO. Mo Vaughn was different story though.

Dwight Evans was still a pretty darn good RF in 87-89. His defense wasn't the same, but he was still one of the best hitters in the AL, and was putting up some of the best offensive seasons of his career. Evans had a very unusual career path, coming up as a great defensive OF with a decent bat. His defense declined, but he blossomed into a great hitter.

 

[obxyankeefan]

I thought Evans had retired by then.Always learning

 

[navamind]

I thought Evans had retired by then.Always learning

He had some pretty good longevity.