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POLL Top 10 poll #22: #22 player in history - Runoff

Who is the #22 player in baseball history?


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calsnowskier

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Imho, the only real knocks against Young and Mathewson is the era in which they played. Their numbers are so off-the-page amazing. But playing in the pre-history days of the game is a near death sentence.
 

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Shocked at the lack of support for Lefty. Watching the vote-flow from round to round is very interesting.
 

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While I think this SHOULD go to Lefty or XX, I won’t be overly irritated with any of these guys taking this spot.


Lefty
Foxx
Young
Mathewson

i have young being the clear last place of this group...

Matthewson is more like Pedro than Grove is...
 

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Shocked at the lack of support for Lefty. Watching the vote-flow from round to round is very interesting.


not surprised... its the runoff...

Foxx is going to easily win this... the "easily" part is entitely because of the runoff choices...
 

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Shocked at the lack of support for Lefty. Watching the vote-flow from round to round is very interesting.
I actually just switched my vote. I think Lefty is just ahead of XX but its close

With what Im looking at, this is a bit like Pujols vs Randy Johnson vs Maddux
 

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not surprised... its the runoff...

Foxx is going to easily win this... the "easily" part is entitely because of the runoff choices...
I don’t follow. I think this is a legit 4. Maybe a tad early for Mathewson, but I am not sure even I support that statement.

I want a catcher (Bench or Berra) to be listed soon, and Robinson is the “other” best bat available. But I think Foxx is the best available position player by a healthy margin.
 

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I don’t follow. I think this is a legit 4. Maybe a tad early for Mathewson, but I am not sure even I support that statement.

I want a catcher (Bench or Berra) to be listed soon, and Robinson is the “other” best bat available. But I think Foxx is the best available position player by a healthy margin.

not making light of who the choices are...

when you look at 3 SP, and then an offensive guy... subconsciously you will always pick the offensive guy... unless you already came in decided...
 

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not making light of who the choices are...

when you look at 3 SP, and then an offensive guy... subconsciously you will always pick the offensive guy... unless you already came in decided...
I will grant that the only one of the4 who has a chance to close it down in this poll is Foxx because of the breakdown of the candidates, I don’t really subscribe to your reasoning.

Young has the hands-down highest name recognition of the 4. Of the other 3, Lefty is the one MOST forgotten by history. But I think Mathewson is more well known than XX, so I really don’t see XX getting any subconscious advantage.
 

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Because this is not a runoff of these players against each other, it a runoff of these individual players against the field.
Right but if you are deciding who to vote for among those 2 and you can't decide, that could be a tie breaking factor, I agree with Milk there
 

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A lot of Griffey voters going Young here...there are some 'name recognition' voters in the mix
 

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I'm okay with Foxx taking it here but I was hoping that Young or even Grove would get this spot.

I really don’t understand the love for young. You’ve been stumping him forever. I am not sure if he is in my top 10. Probably is. But not sure.

I have both Matthewson and grove well ahead of him.
 

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A lot of Griffey voters going Young here...there are some 'name recognition' voters in the mix
Name recognition plays a huge role for those not actively taking part in the discussions.

Again, not to denigrate Young’s support here. If he takes this spot, I will be very happy with the result. He is close enough here to be a fitting recipient.
 

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Right but if you are deciding who to vote for among those 2 and you can't decide, that could be a tie breaking factor, I agree with Milk there
Foxx vs Lefty is trivial, though. It isn’t a poll of Foxx vs Lefty. Is it a poll of Foxx vs the field or Lefty vs the field.
 

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Foxx vs Lefty is trivial, though. It isn’t a poll of Foxx vs Lefty. Is it a poll of Foxx vs the field or Lefty vs the field.
Unless it comes down to a runoff of Lefty vs Foxx...then for that vote it's head to head
 

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Foxx vs Lefty is trivial, though. It isn’t a poll of Foxx vs Lefty. Is it a poll of Foxx vs the field or Lefty vs the field.


i understand what you are saying... but i think you are missing that we have only said it would be a tie breaker... when a decision is too difficult... this is more valid than just saying, tie goes to the offensive player... or whatever... or even basing it on a non baseball reason...
 

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Unless it comes down to a runoff of Lefty vs Foxx...then for that vote it's head to head
150% disagree.

It is still Foxx vs the field and Lefty vs the field. Foxx vs Lefty NEVER enters the discussion.
 
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