The Walking Dead

[gkekoa]

Dude, just stop. I already said that society reserves the right to deny life. Dahmer had his day in court. We fought the Nazi's following the rules of warfare. Even when we 'bent' the rules with that, we talked it over until we were blue in the face, about the morals of it. (see: just bombing theory)

The abortion comment isn't even coherent. It's Morgan who's philosophy would fit into protecting unborn life.

If my wife is raped I have two choices as a member of society.

1. I let the criminal justice system handle it, and live with the outcome.
2. I murder the rapist, and here's the important part I LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF MY ACTIONS, most likely me going to prison at minimum.

Because (gasp!) we live in a society, and if I flout the rules, even for good reasons, I can do that, but I'll pay a price.

And for crissakes, I'm not pulling this conerstone of western civ out of my ass, it's not ME that's come up with that, it's you know, actual history.

Read something. Maybe start with the Greeks. Plato and that bunch. This isn't new under the sun.

Are there people in the world who 'need to die?' Sure. But who gets to decide? You on a whim? Given your enlightened posting in this thread, we'd all better hope not.

No. You said it is a cornerstone of western civilization that "all life is precious." If society deems to take a life, then all life is not precious.

The abortion argument is perfect. Even liberals admit a fetus is life..."all life is precious."

If your statement is true, then why is western civilization responsible for so much death? It is a saying and it is bullshit. History will tell you that.

Actually, if you would read anything I have wrote, I do believe in the court system. Is it perfect...not even close. Do I think we should execute a lot more people than we do? Big time. There is no court in TWD. It is about survival. We have already shown Morgan to be wrong and his actions, or inaction, has led to the death of good people.

I get it. You are a bleeding heart liberal. You believe criminals should live, babies should die, and you know about the military without serving in it...maybe I am wrong though.

 

[gkekoa]

Spoiler: Comic related

[I see people say Maggie's baby dies in the show. I can't see that. I remember reading Herschel's name in the comics in the new world and thinking about the circle of life. So I just don't see that as likely.

I think the person that gets up close and personal with Lucille is Glenn or Abraham. Glenn for obvious reasons and Abraham because of his race and the fact that Denise stole his comic death.

Where are Tara and Heath?

Is it possible Enid is Alpha's daughter?/SPOILER]

 

[Payton]

maybe I am wrong though.

So, to sum it all up.

 

[SFGRTB]

I'll have to go back and watch it, but I feel like Denise was away from the infirmary when the walls came down, and there's no way in hell she could have reached it on her own.

 

[Chef99]

I'll have to go back and watch it, but I feel like Denise was away from the infirmary when the walls came down, and there's no way in hell she could have reached it on her own.

I kinda love this discussion. The counterpoint would be that she was wouldn't have been on her own...she was with Rosita, Carol, Morgan, I think Sasha (?) and Eugene at the time, so she would've most likely had protection.

 

[Chef99]

I think that was the scenario, anyway...gettin' a little blurry myself.

 

[beardown07]

Some of yous should consider getting baked before watching. And maybe after. And probably every time before you come on here...

 

[SFGRTB]

I kinda love this discussion. The counterpoint would be that she was wouldn't have been on her own...she was with Rosita, Carol, Morgan, I think Sasha (?) and Eugene at the time, so she would've most likely had protection.

Yeah but they weren't going anywhere. The only reason they moved was because Rick went on a rampage. And that was after he dropped Carl off. If there was no doctor there, who knows what he does.

 

[calsnowskier]

I'll have to go back and watch it, but I feel like Denise was away from the infirmary when the walls came down, and there's no way in hell she could have reached it on her own.

She WAS at the infirmary, but Morgan came to her and "drafted" her into action at his makeshift prison to look after the wolf.

So if not for Morgan, she would never have left the infirmary to begin with.

 

[SFGRTB]

She WAS at the infirmary, but Morgan came to her and "drafted" her into action at his makeshift prison to look after the wolf.

So if not for Morgan, she would never have left the infirmary to begin with.

Ah yes, yes. I knew her just going out for a stroll didn't sound right.

 

[Chef99]

Great episode, I kept waiting for something to happen. I def think Daryl is alive and all. The more I think about it, the more I think Killing him in the finale is a cop out. He was not in the books, he was made for the show, so leave him in the show. Killing him only saves the rest of the group. IMO that would be an easy way out for the show..He lets create the guy so we can kill him when Negan comes to town so we can save Glenn....nah, fuck that.

I kind of think this is going to happen:

Spoiler: Season Final Thoughts

I remember reading in the beginning that this season final was hard on everyone, esp Maggie. I think she losses the baby and Glenn. Then you have Daryl getting shot and will he make it. Carol is gone. Maggie would lose her shit. Ricks group would be struggling/down/sad to say the least. What a way to end the season. A cliffhanger on Daryl and everyone wondering what will happen to Maggie, and where is Carol.

That's not a bad hypothesis. Depends on how far Gimple and Co. wanna stray from the books, I guess. Probably not gonna go that way, but I like it.

 

[Chef99]

She WAS at the infirmary, but Morgan came to her and "drafted" her into action at his makeshift prison to look after the wolf.

So if not for Morgan, she would never have left the infirmary to begin with.

Ah yes, yes. I knew her just going out for a stroll didn't sound right.

Yeah, there we go. Fun to discuss the "what if's" tho.

 

[Cave_Johnson]

But where does Bob Saget come in?

I am confused...


Seriously, though, that was better than I thought you would do. It isn't accurate in any way whatsoever, but it was actually some cool fanfic. Until the last paragraph, of course. But you can't be mad at a scorpion for being a scorpion.

Bob Saget will play himself and in TWD universe Bob Saget will turn out to be Negan. He will wage war on Alexandria when they refuse to hand over all their elderly women to him.

That last paragraph may be a bit over the top, but it seems like a lot of the villains on this show get killed in really brutal ways. Gotta keep upping their game you know? Plus I think Dwight's kind of a lil' bitch and I think it would be funny.

 

[lilchi721]

I got a question when Morgan was going to get Denise why didn't Carol kill the Wolf?

 

[chf]

No. You said it is a cornerstone of western civilization that "all life is precious." If society deems to take a life, then all life is not precious.

The abortion argument is perfect. Even liberals admit a fetus is life..."all life is precious."

If your statement is true, then why is western civilization responsible for so much death? It is a saying and it is bullshit. History will tell you that.

Actually, if you would read anything I have wrote, I do believe in the court system. Is it perfect...not even close. Do I think we should execute a lot more people than we do? Big time. There is no court in TWD. It is about survival. We have already shown Morgan to be wrong and his actions, or inaction, has led to the death of good people.

I get it. You are a bleeding heart liberal. You believe criminals should live, babies should die, and you know about the military without serving in it...maybe I am wrong though.

Heh, rage on oh uninformed one.

Why do we HAVE a court system? Why do we even bother? I'll let you ponder that, and you get back to me when you've got an answer.

Nice PA jab on me being a lilly livered anti military librul though. Awesome. Not true however. I've personally never served, but since members of my family have served in every war since WW1, I have nothing but respect for the sacrifice's our armed service members make.

And AGAIN, why does the military have rules?

I'll let you ponder that, and you get back to me when you have an answer.

 

[gkekoa]

Heh, rage on oh uninformed one.

Why do we HAVE a court system? Why do we even bother? I'll let you ponder that, and you get back to me when you've got an answer.

Nice PA jab on me being a lilly livered anti military librul though. Awesome. Not true however. I've personally never served, but since members of my family have served in every war since WW1, I have nothing but respect for the sacrifice's our armed service members make.

And AGAIN, why does the military have rules?

I'll let you ponder that, and you get back to me when you have an answer.

I have already stated I am all for the court system. I have also stated a change I would like made personally. Not sure what you are getting at.

Cool...was I correct though? You are a liberal. You are anti-death penalty and pro-abortion. You have already admitted to not serving.

The military has rules for PA purposes.

 

[OutlawImmortal]

Some of yous should consider getting baked before watching. And maybe after. And probably every time before you come on here...

That's baby-killin' librul talk if you ask me. They should execute fackin' hippies like you.

 

[beardown07]

That's baby-killin' librul talk if you ask me. They should execute fackin' hippies like you.

Why, you need something to masturbate to?

 

[Chef99]

Why, you need something to masturbate to?

And there's the BOOM!

 

[Chef99]

Watching Talking Dead now...told you guys Sasha was a hottie!

She's no Rosita, but still...